Well in a year, you just let him walk. I think Barron is going to be a perfect 3C in this league.
- 2sticks1puck

Yea not a bad idea. Just goes back to the point, I just don’t think we can show Strome the money with a flat cap

Yea I don’t mind keeping Strome, but they need an upgrade as well. I just don’t know how that works when Strome is due a big payday in another year
- TPC

Strome is nice enough to have around, but he's not difficult to play against

Sean Couturier is difficult to play desktop, that kind of guy

Strome is nice enough to have around, but he's not difficult to play against

Sean Couturier is difficult to play desktop, that kind of guy
- jimbro83

Interesting idea. When is the last time we traded with the flyers? Lindros? Haha

The reality is this team might not be as good as we all thought. This season they only played 7 teams. They were able to beat up on bad teams like the Sabres, Flyers and Devils. But they struggled and looked out of sorts at times against the better teams like the Pens, Isles and Bruins.

How can we judge what we really are till we play the rest of the league?

It’s why I wasn’t on board like a lot of you in wanting to run it back and give out big contracts to players like Strome and Buch. Gorton has some tough decisions to make. They need to get another top 6 center, whether that means keeping Strome or not. Buch may be a trading piece in that. They also need another veteran d man If they want to compete next season
- TPC

It’s going to be very interesting to see what they do. Agree on Strome, I would be okay if they moved on from him if they could upgrade. Guy is super talented, he’s just too soft. Need someone to take some attention off of his wingers in games like this. Win some puck battles, fight for position in front of and around the net, mix it up. Instead he loses draws and is completely impotent without time and space, allowing all attention to be placed on Panarin. I think it’s especially important considering Zib isn’t a physical threat either (which is fine). Sure he will lay a hit on the forecheck, but he’s not very threatening out there either. Gotta become harder to play against.

Also going to start this with saying in no way Am
I saying fire Quinn but going back to the bubble last year every damn big game the team doesn’t show up? How is that possible. Is it the players or the coaches. Something needs to be looked at.
- TPC

This team in some ways has some uncanny resemblances to the late Renney teams. Right now we are a midpack team, both in terms of points and how we are playing. Some nights it seems like we could beat anyone, and on other nights this.

I'm with you, they got to figure it out soon. I've been on board saying that they need to win now while all the young superstars are making peanuts.

It’s going to be very interesting to see what they do. Agree on Strome, I would be okay if they moved on from him if they could upgrade. Guy is super talented, he’s just too soft. Need someone to take some attention off of his wingers in games like this. Win some puck battles, fight for position in front of and around the net, mix it up. Instead he loses draws and is completely impotent without time and space, allowing all attention to be placed on Panarin. I think it’s especially important considering Zib isn’t a physical threat either (which is fine). Sure he will lay a hit on the forecheck, but he’s not very threatening out there either. Gotta become harder to play against.
- TC88

Obviously this current NYR team isn't on the level of the 94 team, but the issues before the cup winning season and this year are similar. No team toughness, and can only win one way (high tempo). Don't be surprised to see Gorton trade away some key players/prospects to add some jam to this team.

Strome is nice enough to have around, but he's not difficult to play against

Sean Couturier is difficult to play desktop, that kind of guy
- jimbro83

Coots is that guy we need. However, he's a franchise level center probably right now after winning the Selke. I think you guys would be uncomfortable in what it would take to acquire him. If you deal him, you gotta be prepared to give up Chytil, Nils +.

Those numbers mean nothing. We know they can score the lights out. What those numbers dont show is when the Rangers go up 4-0, and ultimately win the game 6-5.
- aecliptic

How are they up 4-0 if Quinn doesn't have them ready? Or are those games when they wake up on their own?

This team in some ways has some uncanny resemblances to the late Renney teams. Right now we are a midpack team, both in terms of points and how we are playing. Some nights it seems like we could beat anyone, and on other nights this.

I'm with you, they got to figure it out soon. I've been on board saying that they need to win now while all the young superstars are making peanuts.
- 2sticks1puck

Yea honestly I always figured the reason you gave Panarin, Kreider and Trouba all the money was a sign they were serious of contending now. I just hope they don’t waste the rest or their primes trying to figure it out

Seems like a bit of negativity here. Disappointment for sure.

Rangers are not good enough, YET. The Rangers are too young and too inexperienced to assess some of these areas. Islanders are a more complete, mature team. It is obvious. All the top teams are as compared to the Rangers.

I hear a lot of talk about a system as an argument against Quinn. May be a wrong system. But how do you know when you have the youngest team in the NHL that has no other NHL system experience. That would be presumptuous to judge. IMHO

Now there are specific, identifiable needs to bolster this team as they mature.
-Faceoffs (some games it's more important than others. Islanders style of place shows this. Ranger's losing face off after face off against the Islanders kills their offense.)
-Tougher players. Talented, yet a mean streak is not something you describe a lot of Ranger players.

I've said this before. This team has a great base of talent. This off season should be used to bolster it will filling those needs. Seems like some of us want the team to be a year ahead in development than they are.

All good things to come in my opinion.

Also going to start this with saying in no way Am
I saying fire Quinn but going back to the bubble last year every damn big game the team doesn’t show up? How is that possible. Is it the players or the coaches. Something needs to be looked at.
- TPC

To me, the issue is twofold: the system that Quinn applies and the players that play the system.

If Quinn is going to be a successful (defined as winning playoff games) he’s going to need to go back to the drawing board and figure out a secondary style of play to teach the players.

The players need to be better constructed to fix the deficiencies. I.e. better up the middle, maybe some more size/grit. Definitely need some more leadership qualities, but that’s not something I’d go out shopping for.

It’s going to be very interesting to see what they do. Agree on Strome, I would be okay if they moved on from him if they could upgrade. Guy is super talented, he’s just too soft. Need someone to take some attention off of his wingers in games like this. Win some puck battles, fight for position in front of and around the net, mix it up. Instead he loses draws and is completely impotent without time and space, allowing all attention to be placed on Panarin. I think it’s especially important considering Zib isn’t a physical threat either (which is fine). Sure he will lay a hit on the forecheck, but he’s not very threatening out there either. Gotta become harder to play against.
- TC88

Yep it’s a must. It’s just tough cause those players don’t grow on trees and cost a lot to trade for. Some tough decisions on some of our younger players are coming this summer. Hold onto your butts

To me, the issue is twofold: the system that Quinn applies and the players that play the system.

If Quinn is going to be a successful (defined as winning playoff games) he’s going to need to go back to the drawing board and figure out a secondary style of play to teach the players.

The players need to be better constructed to fix the deficiencies. I.e. better up the middle, maybe some more size/grit. Definitely need some more leadership qualities, but that’s not something I’d go out shopping for.
- Bean_Dip

Also last night I never thought I would see it...the cowboys helped the eagles screw over the giants lol

Interesting idea. When is the last time we traded with the flyers? Lindros? Haha
- TPC

yeah I don't even necessarily advocating trading for him specifically, but I'm looking for a big center who rules on faceoffs, preferably missing a lot of teeth, that kind of guy

Also last night I never thought I would see it...the cowboys helped the eagles screw over the giants lol
- TPC

I couldn't believe that one

Yep it’s a must. It’s just tough cause those players don’t grow on trees and cost a lot to trade for. Some tough decisions on some of our younger players are coming this summer. Hold onto your butts
- TPC

I think it’s a certainty as well. I don’t think management can ignore it at this point. Also, my comments probably sound way more negative than I feel. I think we’re 2 pieces away from being legitimate threats, we just need to be able to play in different types of games.

What's your definition of bust?
There's ebb and flow to how strong a draft class is. Your statement seems to be saying that they drafted the wrong kid. Who was the better choice?
- Tonybere

2nd overall pick who dominated every level he played at his draft year looks like he’s not gonna produce where a 2nd overall pick should, if he’s 60 point guy tops I’d package him in a deal for a real producing player we can count on, I’d send him and Cytil to Florida with picks and prospects for Barkov in a second

2nd overall pick who dominated every level he played at his draft year looks like he’s not gonna produce where a 2nd overall pick should, if he’s 60 point guy tops I’d package him in a deal for a real producing player we can count on, I’d send him and Cytil to Florida with picks and prospects for Barkov in a second
- KreiderBomb

well just to play Devil's advocate here, because I'm not against trading for Barkov at all if there's a contract extension

but look at Barkov's production his first two seasons

Also last night I never thought I would see it...the cowboys helped the eagles screw over the giants lol
- TPC

I was totally shocked. Expected JJones to screw over the eagles again and take DeVonta Smith

Then the trade details popped up and I want bananas. Fair trade all around too. Micah Parsons is going to be really good...if he can stay in his lane off the field.

I was totally shocked. Expected JJones to screw over the eagles again and take DeVonta Smith

Then the trade details popped up and I want bananas. Fair trade all around too. Micah Parsons is going to be really good...if he can stay in his lane off the field.
- Bean_Dip

From a Dallas side, smith was going to an nfc East rival either way so it was smart to add another 3rd round pick and still get one of the best defenders in the draft. Once both corners were off the board they had to

I’m trying not to overreact, I hate having the final nail put in by the Isles, I know they need to make moves in the offseason but seriously we should have everything we need, we’re loaded up the ass on D, we’ve done almost everything right when it comes to a rebuild, we’ve loaded the pantry with high picks including a 1st and 2nd overall yet we’re lacking what it takes to beat a good defensive team when it absolutely counted, the aisles aren’t a top flight offensive team so it shouldn’t have been this hard

Get me Barkov, that’s the #1 on the list and honestly should just be the list

I’m trying not to overreact, I hate having the final nail put in by the Isles, I know they need to make moves in the offseason but seriously we should have everything we need, we’re loaded up the ass on D, we’ve done almost everything right when it comes to a rebuild, we’ve loaded the pantry with high picks including a 1st and 2nd overall yet we’re lacking what it takes to beat a good defensive team when it absolutely counted, the aisles aren’t a top flight offensive team so it shouldn’t have been this hard

Get me Barkov, that’s the #1 on the list and honestly should just be the list
- KreiderBomb

Florida is one of the best teams in the league. I just don’t see them moving him

I’m trying not to overreact, I hate having the final nail put in by the Isles, I know they need to make moves in the offseason but seriously we should have everything we need, we’re loaded up the ass on D, we’ve done almost everything right when it comes to a rebuild, we’ve loaded the pantry with high picks including a 1st and 2nd overall yet we’re lacking what it takes to beat a good defensive team when it absolutely counted, the aisles aren’t a top flight offensive team so it shouldn’t have been this hard

Get me Barkov, that’s the #1 on the list and honestly should just be the list
- KreiderBomb

I think the better argument for trading Kakko isn't that he's not producing enough as a 2nd overall pick, it's more that maybe having him, Kravstov, Lafreniere a little redundant?

they are top heavy with these kinds of wingers and maybe can package Kakko or Kravtsov and one of these young defenseman to fill the hole down the middle.

But I still think Kakko will have a great career

From a Dallas side, smith was going to an nfc East rival either way so it was smart to add another 3rd round pick and still get one of the best defenders in the draft. Once both corners were off the board they had to
- TPC

Yup. Carolina was the real wildcard. If they don't take Horn, there's a very good chance the Eagles end up with Parsons.

Either way, screw the Giants!

Florida is one of the best teams in the league. I just don’t see them moving him
- TPC

Contract coming up, we’ll find out, don’t be the team that misses out