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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 3 @ 7:25 PM ET
Yeah, and?
The guy is right. When you sign a guy for 7 years and 50 million and he’s playing poorly in year 2, that’s a problem. Having the 2nd OA pick from just 4 years ago playing like a 4th liner is perhaps even worse.

- BiggE


Hayes is having a crappy year. He had a good one last year. Either which way, the Flyers still needed an additional productive center. In today's NHL, teams need three lines that can score. Two won't cut it.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 3 @ 7:26 PM ET
Yeah, and?
The guy is right. When you sign a guy for 7 years and 50 million and he’s playing poorly in year 2, that’s a problem. Having the 2nd OA pick from just 4 years ago playing like a 4th liner is perhaps even worse.

- BiggE



That’s an insult to all 4th liners....
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 3 @ 7:27 PM ET
Hayes is having a crappy year. He had a good one last year. Either which way, the Flyers still needed an additional productive center. In today's NHL, teams need three lines that can score. Two won't cut it.
- bmeltzer

Exactly my point and it sucks that a 2nd OA pick and signing a guy for 7 years and north of 7 million per did not solve the problem.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 3 @ 7:28 PM ET
That save will be the highlight of Lyon’s career
CRUSH IT LIKE ME
Location: Give me 20 of Kunitz vs 20 girouxs
Joined: 04.25.2021

May 3 @ 7:28 PM ET
There are a few free agents that I think the Flyers should seriously consider in this price range that would increase their speed, toughness and leadership up front.

Nick Foligno
Jayden Schwartz
Brandon Saad

On defense, here are two FAs I would seriously consider for the Flyers.

Mike Reilly - done a great job on Boston since the deadline, good puck moving player
Adam Larsson - increases toughness and defensive play in your own end

- jd250



i like Schwartz. Schenn is really impacted when he is out of the line up
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

May 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
You can see how the Penguins attack the slot area with one time passes, the Flyers offensive is completely outside the slot .. big difference!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
That’s an insult to all 4th liners....
- landros 2

Yeah, he’s been pretty awful. I get the physical issues and long layoff, but he’s just been awful. At worst, I thought he’d be a solid 3C this season. He’s not even remotely close to that. At this point, I think solid 3C is probably his ceiling.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

May 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
and yet teachers do not want to teach students in a classroom setting 5 days a week and the commander in chief wears two masks while socially distanced outside, in direct contrast of the science and the cdc's guidance.

The bolded part is not anything new to those who actually follow the science and don't virtue signal or try to scare/bully people into submission. There is no reason for any local municipality, city, or state to have any kind of mask mandate or any part of their economies shut down

- corduroy


Not everyone is vaccinated and no one knows if a vaccinated person can transmit the virus. I’m fully vaccinated, but my wife and daughter are not yet. I wear a mask in public and appreciate others wearing masks because I’d rather not give covid to my wife and daughter (or to any unvaccinated person I might come in contact with). Seems to me the president is just being considerate of those he comes in contact with. My friend’s 13 year old nephew (in the suburban Philadelphia area) just tested positive for covid on Saturday. Things are trending in the right direction, but it’s not time to let your guard down yet.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 3 @ 7:30 PM ET
Exactly my point and it sucks that a 2nd OA pick and signing a guy for 7 years and north of 7 million per did not solve the problem.
- BiggE

That would be a problem , a big one.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 3 @ 7:31 PM ET
I know, right? It was positively tragic that the Islanders needed J-G Pageau on top of Barzal and Nelson.
- bmeltzer

Oh yeah because that’s the same thing
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

May 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
and yet teachers do not want to teach students in a classroom setting 5 days a week and the commander in chief wears two masks while socially distanced outside, in direct contrast of the science and the cdc's guidance.

The bolded part is not anything new to those who actually follow the science and don't virtue signal or try to scare/bully people into submission. There is no reason for any local municipality, city, or state to have any kind of mask mandate or any part of their economies shut down

- corduroy


To be fair.. Biden is almost 80 and in the most dangerous group so he should be doing those things.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

May 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
Your the gm. What’s the first move you make this off-season?
- GPerogie


I would RESIGN and tell my next employer I’ll try not have my head up my.... and think that Eric Gustafson will replace Matt Niskanin.
I will also support my next coaching staff by walking into the locker room and call out the players sleeping through games.

You get my point, I would lead by example and show my team losing is not acceptable and losing is NOT fun! Think of Brad Pitt in Money Ball”

I will lead my next team from the front ,as a leader should, I can’t ask my my team ( coaches and players) to care more about winning then I do.

Or I would just make excuses ( COVID and lack of practice time hurts us) and use several corporate buzz words (bias for action, retool etc) and go about my normal routine.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
Hayes is having a crappy year. He had a good one last year. Either which way, the Flyers still needed an additional productive center. In today's NHL, teams need three lines that can score. Two won't cut it.
- bmeltzer


The worry is this, Bill. It is not that he is having a crappy year this year. It is that he had aberrant year last year. This year, he is on pace for 45+ points and 20 goals. Almost exactly his pace in 6 of the 7 seasons he has played (all except last year).
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 3 @ 7:34 PM ET
Yeah, and?
The guy is right. When you sign a guy for 7 years and 50 million and he’s playing poorly in year 2, that’s a problem. Having the 2nd OA pick from just 4 years ago playing like a 4th liner is perhaps even worse.

- BiggE

Thank you. Bill basically named 3 centers. We’re talking needing another center on top of Couturier (who will need a raise), Hayes and Patrick who we need to reach his full potential. Barzel for the time being is cheap but playing like a top center in the nhl.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 3 @ 7:36 PM ET
Hayes is having a crappy year. He had a good one last year. Either which way, the Flyers still needed an additional productive center. In today's NHL, teams need three lines that can score. Two won't cut it.
- bmeltzer

Nothing in my comment I said was unreasonable, Bill. If you don’t like me, that’s your problem, not mine.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

May 3 @ 7:37 PM ET
I’ll take the goal but honestly reviewing a play that long after the fact is pretty ridiculous.
- hereticpride

Give it back. Need to finish strong. By losing for draft position
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

May 3 @ 7:39 PM ET
Yes!!!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 3 @ 7:42 PM ET
Now you guys decide to show up. Clowns
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 3 @ 7:42 PM ET
Why I say they need to keep ghost unless you replace his skill set
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
Guess I'll keep watching the Phillies. Flip it over real quick to see G bury one to make it 3-0.

Carry on.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

May 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
Claude!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
Oh yeah because that’s the same thing
- SuperSchennBros


It's very much the same thing. The Flyers came into this season hoping Patrick would step up and be that third productive center. It hasn't happened and Hayes has also had a bad season. It didn't help that Frost was lost for the season four periods into his season.

Last year, the Islanders lacked a 3rd center to supplement Barzal and Nelson. They went out and got Pageau.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
I refuse to believe that these are the Flyers that I'm watching...
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 3 @ 7:45 PM ET
Not everyone is vaccinated and no one knows if a vaccinated person can transmit the virus. I’m fully vaccinated, but my wife and daughter are not yet. I wear a mask in public and appreciate others wearing masks because I’d rather not give covid to my wife and daughter (or to any unvaccinated person I might come in contact with). Seems to me the president is just being considerate of those he comes in contact with. My friend’s 13 year old nephew (in the suburban Philadelphia area) just tested positive for covid on Saturday. Things are trending in the right direction, but it’s not time to let your guard down yet.
- Dkos



While more data needed the break through rate is .00007
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
I refuse to believe that these are the Flyers that I'm watching...
- Tomahawk


It is their patented display of meaningless mojo. Repeated every year, pretty much. An enlargement of the usual last 2 mins of a game already lost.

Watch these guys go on a stirring run now, and pick around 20.
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