homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Oh so you think Eichel sucks too.
Gotcha - sbroads24
oh my |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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if it looks like a beer league and sounds like a beer league and acts like a beer league, it's the NHL. - TheSabresTaco
Fixed |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Cody Franson = Jeff SKinner
It was pretty clear I thought.
Both severely overrated analytics darlings. - ImThatGuy
Yeah....Skinner averaged 30 goals a season until last year.
He wasn’t just an analytical darling he was a producer too.
The Franson thing is super confusing |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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oh my - homiedclown
He’s refusing to answer that
Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently
I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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He’s refusing to answer that
Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently
I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t - sbroads24
PPG player jack eichel,
no he is not the reason they are bad.
Not producing Jeff SKinner is.
You also realize your skinner arguments have gone from
Last year - He produces 5 on 5 and is still one of the tops in 5 on 5 points
to
This year - Points don't matter.
So which one is it.
Points matter if 5 on 5, or they dont matter.
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Now that we've seen Sam play without Jack the last mystery is the one with Skinner. Does Skinner + Jack - Ralph = decent hockey player.
My gut feeling says no |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Yeah....Skinner averaged 30 goals a season until last year.
He wasn’t just an analytical darling he was a producer too.
The Franson thing is super confusing - sbroads24
Exhibit A as to why most UFA contracts blow up in teams faces.
Paying players for past performance.
Skinner was a great even strength scorer, peaked in his contract year, now we are caught holding the bag |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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I found one In the case of 30 point players better than 50 point players
Valeri Nichushkin > Jeff Skinner
Also, The Sabres should probably back up the brinks truck for Cush. his underlying numbers are all super fantastic. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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He’s refusing to answer that
Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently
I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t - sbroads24
when I use eichel and lack of playoffs, to stir the pot, it's always defending him from the mass
I guess that is only a street for jack, not the other guys |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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PPG player jack eichel,
no he is not the reason they are bad.
Not producing Jeff SKinner is.
You also realize your skinner arguments have gone from
Last year - He produces 5 on 5 and is still one of the tops in 5 on 5 points
to
This year - Points don't matter.
So which one is it.
Points matter if 5 on 5, or they dont matter. - ImThatGuy
But producing Jeff Skinner, scoring 40 goals was on a team that won the cup, right?
Oh wait, no. He was on a terrible Sabres team
So maybe the narrative that he needs to produce or were screwed is just complete and total BS |
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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Joined: 02.10.2011
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Now that we've seen Sam play without Jack the last mystery is the one with Skinner. Does Skinner + Jack - Ralph = decent hockey player.
My gut feeling says no - Slump Buster
They better hope so.
Or Skinner + Jack - Ralph + new RW = decent Skinner. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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when I use eichel and lack of playoffs, to stir the pot, it's always defending him from the mass
I guess that is only a street for jack, not the other guys - homiedclown
Blaming either is wrong IMO.
The Canes broke the drought because they finally got some saves and then they’re young D men ( Slavin, Pesce) became stars
Edit- hang on let me check the bold’s point totals before I claim they are good |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I've long contended that the league needs someone other than former players instilling the discipline, at least until a new precedent can be set. - buffalofan19
Like an arbitrator or judge with no connections to the sport. At the very least, have someone assign the fair amount of games for a player to be suspended.
Impartial, not depending on team or star power. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Kerryon Johnson would be a nice depth pick up for the bills |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Blaming either is wrong IMO.
The Canes broke the drought because they finally got some saves and then they’re young D men (Slavin, Pesce) became stars
Edit- hang on let me check the bold’s point totals before I claim they are good - sbroads24
who do you want to coach the team next season |
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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They better hope so.
Or Skinner + Jack - Ralph + new RW = decent Skinner. - Powerslave
I think what really bums me out is how much better the Samson line looked with a play-driving winger (Bjork). Skinner is a guy who picks up lost change in the slot. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Not every bottom 6 player is going to explode on another teams top 6.
Just like Sbroads is trying to prove, which you are ironically now agreeing with.
Player with strong analytics, but 20 point output was a better investment than many player whom had 50 points last year. - Pegullaville
Blanket statements like that just aren’t correct
Gotta look at it on a case by case basis
And AGAIN....
Generally, the best players get the most points |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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PPG player jack eichel,
no he is not the reason they are bad.
Not producing Jeff SKinner is.
You also realize your skinner arguments have gone from
Last year - He produces 5 on 5 and is still one of the tops in 5 on 5 points
to
This year - Points don't matter.
So which one is it.
Points matter if 5 on 5, or they dont matter. - ImThatGuy
How about this, points matter if they help you win, does it matter if Eichel or Skinner have 3 pts in a game and we lose. Helps the player out with those points, doesn’t really help the team. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Cody Franson, also a very good player.
In fact the NHL needs a new award. The Cody Franson underlying not producing numbers award.
Jeff SKinner would win every year. - ImThatGuy
Points don’t matter- analytics do |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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He’s refusing to answer that
Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently
I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t - sbroads24
MANY here- including yourself- pointed to us not making the playoffs as a reason to trade O’Reilly |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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MANY here- including yourself- pointed to us not making the playoffs as a reason to trade O’Reilly - jdfitz77
No |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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when I use eichel and lack of playoffs, to stir the pot, it's always defending him from the mass
I guess that is only a street for jack, not the other guys - homiedclown
Just pointing out that you’re again admitting to “stir the pot”
Maybe you’ll remember this the next time u accuse me of doing such |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Kerryon Johnson would be a nice depth pick up for the bills - homiedclown
The RB?
Over Brieda then? |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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No - sbroads24
MANY certainly did |
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