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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
Oh so you think Eichel sucks too.

Gotcha

- sbroads24

oh my
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
if it looks like a beer league and sounds like a beer league and acts like a beer league, it's the NHL.
- TheSabresTaco

Fixed
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:36 PM ET
Cody Franson = Jeff SKinner

It was pretty clear I thought.

Both severely overrated analytics darlings.

- ImThatGuy

Yeah....Skinner averaged 30 goals a season until last year.

He wasn’t just an analytical darling he was a producer too.

The Franson thing is super confusing
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:36 PM ET
oh my
- homiedclown

He’s refusing to answer that

Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently

I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
He’s refusing to answer that

Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently

I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t

- sbroads24


PPG player jack eichel,

no he is not the reason they are bad.

Not producing Jeff SKinner is.

You also realize your skinner arguments have gone from

Last year - He produces 5 on 5 and is still one of the tops in 5 on 5 points
to
This year - Points don't matter.

So which one is it.

Points matter if 5 on 5, or they dont matter.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
Now that we've seen Sam play without Jack the last mystery is the one with Skinner. Does Skinner + Jack - Ralph = decent hockey player.

My gut feeling says no
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 6 @ 4:43 PM ET
Yeah....Skinner averaged 30 goals a season until last year.

He wasn’t just an analytical darling he was a producer too.

The Franson thing is super confusing

- sbroads24


Exhibit A as to why most UFA contracts blow up in teams faces.

Paying players for past performance.

Skinner was a great even strength scorer, peaked in his contract year, now we are caught holding the bag
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 6 @ 4:43 PM ET
I found one In the case of 30 point players better than 50 point players


Valeri Nichushkin > Jeff Skinner

Also, The Sabres should probably back up the brinks truck for Cush. his underlying numbers are all super fantastic.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 6 @ 4:43 PM ET
He’s refusing to answer that

Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently

I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t

- sbroads24

when I use eichel and lack of playoffs, to stir the pot, it's always defending him from the mass

I guess that is only a street for jack, not the other guys
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:44 PM ET
PPG player jack eichel,

no he is not the reason they are bad.

Not producing Jeff SKinner is.

You also realize your skinner arguments have gone from

Last year - He produces 5 on 5 and is still one of the tops in 5 on 5 points
to
This year - Points don't matter.

So which one is it.

Points matter if 5 on 5, or they dont matter.

- ImThatGuy

But producing Jeff Skinner, scoring 40 goals was on a team that won the cup, right?

Oh wait, no. He was on a terrible Sabres team

So maybe the narrative that he needs to produce or were screwed is just complete and total BS
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 6 @ 4:44 PM ET
Now that we've seen Sam play without Jack the last mystery is the one with Skinner. Does Skinner + Jack - Ralph = decent hockey player.

My gut feeling says no

- Slump Buster



They better hope so.

Or Skinner + Jack - Ralph + new RW = decent Skinner.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:46 PM ET
when I use eichel and lack of playoffs, to stir the pot, it's always defending him from the mass

I guess that is only a street for jack, not the other guys

- homiedclown

Blaming either is wrong IMO.

The Canes broke the drought because they finally got some saves and then they’re young D men (Slavin, Pesce) became stars

Edit- hang on let me check the bold’s point totals before I claim they are good
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
I've long contended that the league needs someone other than former players instilling the discipline, at least until a new precedent can be set.
- buffalofan19


Like an arbitrator or judge with no connections to the sport. At the very least, have someone assign the fair amount of games for a player to be suspended.

Impartial, not depending on team or star power.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
Kerryon Johnson would be a nice depth pick up for the bills
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 6 @ 4:49 PM ET
Blaming either is wrong IMO.

The Canes broke the drought because they finally got some saves and then they’re young D men (Slavin, Pesce) became stars

Edit- hang on let me check the bold’s point totals before I claim they are good

- sbroads24

who do you want to coach the team next season
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 6 @ 4:50 PM ET
They better hope so.

Or Skinner + Jack - Ralph + new RW = decent Skinner.

- Powerslave


I think what really bums me out is how much better the Samson line looked with a play-driving winger (Bjork). Skinner is a guy who picks up lost change in the slot.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 6 @ 4:51 PM ET
Not every bottom 6 player is going to explode on another teams top 6.

Just like Sbroads is trying to prove, which you are ironically now agreeing with.

Player with strong analytics, but 20 point output was a better investment than many player whom had 50 points last year.

- Pegullaville


Blanket statements like that just aren’t correct
Gotta look at it on a case by case basis

And AGAIN....
Generally, the best players get the most points
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
PPG player jack eichel,

no he is not the reason they are bad.

Not producing Jeff SKinner is.

You also realize your skinner arguments have gone from

Last year - He produces 5 on 5 and is still one of the tops in 5 on 5 points
to
This year - Points don't matter.

So which one is it.

Points matter if 5 on 5, or they dont matter.

- ImThatGuy

How about this, points matter if they help you win, does it matter if Eichel or Skinner have 3 pts in a game and we lose. Helps the player out with those points, doesn’t really help the team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 6 @ 4:53 PM ET
Cody Franson, also a very good player.

In fact the NHL needs a new award. The Cody Franson underlying not producing numbers award.

Jeff SKinner would win every year.

- ImThatGuy


Points don’t matter- analytics do
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
He’s refusing to answer that

Skinner is the reason Carolina never made the playoffs apparently

I assume he thinks Eichel is the reason we haven’t

- sbroads24


MANY here- including yourself- pointed to us not making the playoffs as a reason to trade O’Reilly
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 6 @ 4:57 PM ET
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
MANY here- including yourself- pointed to us not making the playoffs as a reason to trade O’Reilly
- jdfitz77

No
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
when I use eichel and lack of playoffs, to stir the pot, it's always defending him from the mass

I guess that is only a street for jack, not the other guys

- homiedclown


Just pointing out that you’re again admitting to “stir the pot”

Maybe you’ll remember this the next time u accuse me of doing such
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 6 @ 4:59 PM ET
Kerryon Johnson would be a nice depth pick up for the bills
- homiedclown


The RB?
Over Brieda then?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 6 @ 5:00 PM ET
No
- sbroads24


MANY certainly did
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