to me the biggest problem with Tkachuk is probably why he is being rumored to be on the block to begin with, his contract this coming season is 9 million in cash, so he needs to be qualified about over 9 million a year his next deal

and Panarin at 11.6 million, Tkachuk over 9 million, Kreider at 6.5 and eventually Lafreniere getting a payday, how much money can we spend at left wing?

I do agree that Tkachuk is a massive need, he'd come here and be the total douchebag we desperately need and he's terrific offensively
- jimbro83

Could Tkachuk play RW?

The other thing is, if they chase him, what does the future hold for Zibanejad? Whats the plan for fixing our depth at center? Do we leave Strome as is, hope he signs a "friendly" extension and go after a bonafide 3C?

to me the biggest problem with Tkachuk is probably why he is being rumored to be on the block to begin with, his contract this coming season is 9 million in cash, so he needs to be qualified about over 9 million a year his next deal

and Panarin at 11.6 million, Tkachuk over 9 million, Kreider at 6.5 and eventually Lafreniere getting a payday, how much money can we spend at left wing?

I do agree that Tkachuk is a massive need, he'd come here and be the total douchebag we desperately need and he's terrific offensively
- jimbro83

This is my issue. The Tkachuk brothers are two of my favorite players in the league, but Matthew is gonna be incredibly expensive at a position that we are deep at, and that we have some very good ELCs at. If we're trading young players/picks I want to fill a position of need like center.

We need some toughness for sure but I don't think we need to blow up the core to do it.

This is my issue. The Tkachuk brothers are two of my favorite players in the league, but Matthew is gonna be incredibly expensive at a position that we are deep at, and that we have some very good ELCs at. If we're trading young players/picks I want to fill a position of need like center.

We need some toughness for sure but I don't think we need to blow up the core to do it.
- SkjeiStadium

Lawson Crouse, Jordan Greenway, Barclay Goodrow

Id go this route for smaller trades and signings. It wouldnt empty the cupboard and still allow us to make moves for C.

Capitals winger Lars Eller and New York Rangers forward Ryan Strome dropped the gloves with one another during Washington's 4-2 win over New York last Wednesday, a game that featured six fights in the first five minutes following what the Rangers felt was a cheap shot from Tom Wilson on Artemi Panarin in the clash two days prior.C

Nearly one week after the fact, Eller joined the Sports Junkies and when asked about the fight he said he had never spoken to Strome once before the two got into it.

"I never had a conversation with him before in my life," Eller said.

Eller's fight -- which was the final of the six in the opening five minutes of the first period -- happened right after a faceoff in which Strome, somewhat politely, asked him to fight.

"He just asked me during the faceoff, 'please fight me.' ... I can't remember if he said 'please,'" Eller said. "I think he was like 'I need one. Let's go. I need one.' I was like 'Alright, fine.'

"Once you drop the gloves and it's on, it's either hit or get hit. It's just that simple," Eller continued.
- jimbro83

Love it

to me the biggest problem with Tkachuk is probably why he is being rumored to be on the block to begin with, his contract this coming season is 9 million in cash, so he needs to be qualified about over 9 million a year his next deal

and Panarin at 11.6 million, Tkachuk over 9 million, Kreider at 6.5 and eventually Lafreniere getting a payday, how much money can we spend at left wing?

I do agree that Tkachuk is a massive need, he'd come here and be the total douchebag we desperately need and he's terrific offensively
- jimbro83

The only way we could possibly make it work is if we got rid of Kreider and Buch. I would LOVE to get him, but I just don't see it working unless the cap goes dramatically up. ( Sigh ) One can always dream....

This is my issue. The Tkachuk brothers are two of my favorite players in the league, but Matthew is gonna be incredibly expensive at a position that we are deep at, and that we have some very good ELCs at. If we're trading young players/picks I want to fill a position of need like center.

We need some toughness for sure but I don't think we need to blow up the core to do it.
- SkjeiStadium

Some difficulties this season for Winnipeg. What would you guys put together for Mark Scheifele? $6.1M for 3 more years. I doubt the Rangers are on his no-go list.

Edit:
I just kinda landed on Scheifele by looking at the top scoring centers for the season. The more I look at him, the more I think he's exactly what we need!

Lawson Crouse, Jordan Greenway, Barclay Goodrow

Id go this route for smaller trades and signings. It wouldnt empty the cupboard and still allow us to make moves for C.
- aecliptic

None of those guys have put up points, though. It improves toughness, but isn't a "center upgrade" per se.

None of those guys have put up points, though. It improves toughness, but isn't a "center upgrade" per se.
- Tonybere

Those guys are depth players that wont cost us much to obtain. Goodrow is a free agent, and Greenway would be the 3RW. You still have the rest of our assets to pursue a trade, or 2, for center depth.

As Ive said, my main target for a realistic center would be Hertl.

Those guys are depth players that wont cost us much to obtain. Goodrow is a free agent, and Greenway would be the 3RW. You still have the rest of our assets to pursue a trade, or 2, for center depth.

As Ive said, my main target for a realistic center would be Hertl.
- aecliptic

I see. I didn't quite follow you, my bad.
As you've seen above, I've found a new dream acquisition!

I see. I didn't quite follow you, my bad.
As you've seen above, I've found a new dream acquisition!
- Tonybere

Ive been a fan of his for a while. Hes a steady consistent hockey player, but I just cant imagine that WPG would trade their #1 in this current financial climate with him being cost controlled. Theyre far more likely to trade PLD.

Ive been a fan of his for a while. Hes a steady consistent hockey player, but I just cant imagine that WPG would trade their #1 in this current financial climate with him being cost controlled. Theyre far more likely to trade PLD.
- aecliptic

They just made their move for PLD and he's much younger, so I figured maybe they would be open to it. Maybe I'm just really baked...

Some difficulties this season for Winnipeg. What would you guys put together for Mark Scheifele? $6.1M for 3 more years. I doubt the Rangers are on his no-go list.

Edit:
I just kinda landed on Scheifele by looking at the top scoring centers for the season. The more I look at him, the more I think he's exactly what we need!
- Tonybere

Scheifele is a solid player. However, he is not the physical, faceoff winning upgrade we need at center.

Scheifele is a solid player. However, he is not the physical, faceoff winning upgrade we need at center.
- TommyGTrain

IDK, man. I've watched him play a lot. He isn't the most physical, but he doesn't shy away from it and he plays in the dirty areas. I've seen him mix it up.
As for faceoffs, his lowest percentage in the last 5 years (which was 5 years ago!) would probably be about the best on NY. After that he went over 51% and then 46, 47 and now 50%
We would have to pay to get him, but how 'bout the Mika and Mark show on Broadway as your 1-2?

Lawson Crouse, Jordan Greenway, Barclay Goodrow

Id go this route for smaller trades and signings. It wouldnt empty the cupboard and still allow us to make moves for C.
- aecliptic

I like Goodrow and Greenway but think that they will be too expensive to be 4th line depth players. I'm sure there's a line of teams waiting to offer Goodrow a contract after his past two seasons with Tampa. I don't see Minnesota really shopping Greenway since he's cost controlled for a few years and they have a ton of cap space opening up to be able to keep whoever they want.

I'm not a fan of Crouse, but I think he'd be a more realistic target. I think the Rangers need to focus on finding the "next" Goodrow as opposed to paying someone that's played that role in the past. Those guys generally look to capitalize on their success and get bigger deals and bigger roles which I'd be wary of. Easier said than done though

IDK, man. I've watched him play a lot. He isn't the most physical, but he doesn't shy away from it and he plays in the dirty areas. I've seen him mix it up.
As for faceoffs, his lowest percentage in the last 5 years (which was 5 years ago!) would probably be about the best on NY. After that he went over 51% and then 46, 47 and now 50%
We would have to pay to get him, but how 'bout the Mika and Mark show on Broadway as your 1-2?
- Tonybere

I'd definitely get on board with this. Scheifele is known as one of the biggest hockey nerds in the league and just absolutely loves the game. I think he'd be great for us but I would imagine the ask is pretty big. That team needs some defensemen though so they could be good trade partners for us again if we offered Nils.

Would be great if we could end up swapping Hayes and Lundkvist for Trouba and Sheifele though

I'd definitely get on board with this. Scheifele is known as one of the biggest hockey nerds in the league and just absolutely loves the game. I think he'd be great for us but I would imagine the ask is pretty big. That team needs some defensemen though so they could be good trade partners for us again if we offered Nils.

Would be great if we could end up swapping Hayes and Lundkvist for Trouba and Sheifele though
- SkjeiStadium

I'm not very good at doing the trade offer thing. Every time it comes to who goes back the other way, I'm like "Naaah, I don't want to part with him." But, I think this would be one worth giving it up for!

I'm not very good at doing the trade offer thing. Every time it comes to who goes back the other way, I'm like "Naaah, I don't want to part with him." But, I think this would be one worth giving it up for!
- Tonybere

Right there with you Tony!

IDK, man. I've watched him play a lot. He isn't the most physical, but he doesn't shy away from it and he plays in the dirty areas. I've seen him mix it up.
As for faceoffs, his lowest percentage in the last 5 years (which was 5 years ago!) would probably be about the best on NY. After that he went over 51% and then 46, 47 and now 50%
We would have to pay to get him, but how 'bout the Mika and Mark show on Broadway as your 1-2?
- Tonybere

I would much prefer the Mika & Josh Norris show on Broadway!

I would much prefer the Mika & Josh Norris show on Broadway!
- TommyGTrain

Id be on board with Josh Norris, but the price will be high. Id be willing to do Miller for Norris straight up. OTT seems to have an abundance of RHD but nothing really on the left.

I like Goodrow and Greenway but think that they will be too expensive to be 4th line depth players. I'm sure there's a line of teams waiting to offer Goodrow a contract after his past two seasons with Tampa. I don't see Minnesota really shopping Greenway since he's cost controlled for a few years and they have a ton of cap space opening up to be able to keep whoever they want.

I'm not a fan of Crouse, but I think he'd be a more realistic target. I think the Rangers need to focus on finding the "next" Goodrow as opposed to paying someone that's played that role in the past. Those guys generally look to capitalize on their success and get bigger deals and bigger roles which I'd be wary of. Easier said than done though
- SkjeiStadium

Its nice to groom one of your own, but finding these bruisers that can actually skate is really tough. Sometimes you need those established ones because you need their experience. A lot of what they do is about doing things at the right time and place, all the while trying to avoid a penalty. That only comes with experience. Grooming one of our own comes with the growing pains of dumb penalties and loads of frustration, something we can skip.

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- picklerick

I will always wonder where Calgary had Schneider on their draft board that they let us trade up to pick him.

I like Goodrow and Greenway but think that they will be too expensive to be 4th line depth players. I'm sure there's a line of teams waiting to offer Goodrow a contract after his past two seasons with Tampa. I don't see Minnesota really shopping Greenway since he's cost controlled for a few years and they have a ton of cap space opening up to be able to keep whoever they want.

I'm not a fan of Crouse, but I think he'd be a more realistic target. I think the Rangers need to focus on finding the "next" Goodrow as opposed to paying someone that's played that role in the past. Those guys generally look to capitalize on their success and get bigger deals and bigger roles which I'd be wary of. Easier said than done though
- SkjeiStadium

4th line? Greenway would be a 3rd line guy that could move up into the top 6 if needed.

4th line? Greenway would be a 3rd line guy that could move up into the top 6 if needed.
- nyrangers9479

Yea hes definitely no slouch and can easily play in the middle 6 depending on game flow and matchups.

4th line? Greenway would be a 3rd line guy that could move up into the top 6 if needed.
- nyrangers9479

Why would he even be available