jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I’m sorry man but if the return for Eichel is simply Matt Beniers or Eklund, just fold this franchise for good.
Cap space means absolutely nothing to us if we’re moving Eichel - sbroads24
You'll get that guy, plus whoever you pick at one, plus you'll suck next year, get a top-3 pick there and hopefully be ready to go in 2023 with a completely clean cap sheet
I'll hit myself with the stool now
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washedup20
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Location: the little apple Joined: 08.19.2014
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If you are getting rid of all these contracts you're gonna have to get to the salary cap so having skinner Isn't going to be a big deal when we don't have a team - gerbe75pts
9mm annual investment for top chance at Wright, then Michkov and Bedard, then send Skinner the Moulson route. This is long term logic by upper management, they know more to make these difficult decisions.
If you want to be a billionaire think like a...nvm just be a waitress |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Yeah but I am not saying a total rebuild, this is adding young NHL pieces to what we have already have. I don't need draft picks, they would be nice, but I want young NHL players. IMO opinion this team can compete know with the right pieces brought back. - Buff36
I appreciate your optimism,
but what do u mean by “compete” exactly? |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Wasn't saying you, just my opinion - Buff36
Heres the quote btw
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.
That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Heres the quote btw
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.
That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet - gerbe75pts
They gone
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Hearing Mike Schopp say
"We might be looking at the end of the franchise" makes me very sad.
It truly feels cataclysmic. People are starved for entertainment in a pandemic and no one gave a poop about the Sabres.
Hell, I'll be totally honest: I'm next in line for the blogger job and I'm more excited to see the BJs at Sahlen Field than I would be about Sabres tickets (and I really don't give a poop about baseball). This straight up (frank)ing sucks. It sucks.
I love the Sabres but it's a toxic relationship - jcragcrumple
I mean...ya, of course! Who the fvck wouldn't watch that over the Sabres?
What channel is that on ?
9 _ _ what?
Is that really a prominent thing? And if so, how much are tickets? |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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You'll get that guy, plus whoever you pick at one, plus you'll suck next year, get a top-3 pick there and hopefully be ready to go in 2023 with a completely clean cap sheet
I'll hit myself with the stool now
- jcragcrumple
But you could get prospects And have them in the ahl ? |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Heres the quote btw
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.
That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet - gerbe75pts
Makes sense
They’re good buds- safe to assume they’ve talked |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Heres the quote btw
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.
That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet - gerbe75pts
Don't they live together |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I appreciate your optimism,
but what do u mean by “compete” exactly? - jdfitz77
Lose 4-2 instead of 5-1
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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You'll get that guy, plus whoever you pick at one, plus you'll suck next year, get a top-3 pick there and hopefully be ready to go in 2023 with a completely clean cap sheet
I'll hit myself with the stool now
- jcragcrumple
Yeah you can’t just throw him into this discussion like that’s part of the trade
I wouldn’t trade Cozens for anyone in this draft right now.
Would you be happy with Cozens for Eichel? |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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But you could get prospects And have them in the ahl ? - gerbe75pts
But you canned the ahl coach that developed guys
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Or not. Like I said, if Seattle wants Eichel and Skinner for their 1st, I'm in.
That's a hard reset I can get behind - jcragcrumple
You, and ...
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Crag Island. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Yeah you can’t just throw him into this discussion like that’s part of the trade
I wouldn’t trade Cozens for anyone in this draft right now.
Would you be happy with Cozens for Eichel? - sbroads24
Casey looked much better IMO
Then cozens
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Don't they live together - Buff36
Doesn’t jack Live with his girlfriend? |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY Joined: 10.07.2010
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I cant shake the feeling that we're punting a half a decade more into the sun - jcragcrumple
At least |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Yeah you can’t just throw him into this discussion like that’s part of the trade
I wouldn’t trade Cozens for anyone in this draft right now.
Would you be happy with Cozens for Eichel? - sbroads24
The Sabres are never going to win this trade.
You have to ask yourself what specific goal you'd like to accomplish through the trade and laser-focus on that objective.
For me, that's a completely clean cap going forward |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Getting rid of Skinner can work but you need two things at the end of the day:
1) A team he'd waive to
2) Two teams willing to take his term at $2.25M
Step One:
-Trade 2021 2nd along with Skinner while retaining $4.5M (50%) to Team 1
Step Two:
-Team 1 trades Skinner to Team 2 while retaining $2.25M (50%), but what are the problems?
-Team 2 really has to believe Skinner is a victim of playing in BUF to pay $2.25M for six years, until he's 34. What would they be willing to give that makes all this worth it at the end of the day for Team 1 to keep $2.25M for six years? I'd say at best a 2nd or at worst a 3rd.
What team would be willing to give up a second for six year of Jeff Skinner at $2.25M? Probably a team close to the cap who needs a bargain middle six winger and believes Skinner can still be that player.
Who could that be that team? Dallas? Edmonton? Washington? Nashville? Vegas?
I could see Vegas being Team 2. Would they give up what's needed?
At the end of the day Team 1 would be receiving possibly two 2nd round picks for $2.25M for six years. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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I appreciate your optimism,
but what do u mean by “compete” exactly? - jdfitz77
Compete, play good hockey, make a run for the playoffs, get better as they grow together. Can't believe I am saying this, but more worried about Sam right know than Eichel |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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But you canned the ahl coach that developed guys - homiedclown
Seth appert did a wonderful job this year untill covid took over ? |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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The Sabres are never going to win this trade.
You have to ask yourself what specific goal you'd like to accomplish through the trade and laser-focus on that objective.
For me, that's a completely clean cap going forward - jcragcrumple
The cap is something that perpetually bad teams worry about and good teams figure out.
The Sabres should worry about getting the best player for Eichel. Period.
Byfield, Turcotte, Lafreniere, Stutzle, Byram, Keller etc.
They need one of the above ++ |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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The Sabres are never going to win this trade.
You have to ask yourself what specific goal you'd like to accomplish through the trade and laser-focus on that objective.
For me, that's a completely clean cap going forward - jcragcrumple
For me:
It’s gathering as much young talent as possible |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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The cap is something that perpetually bad teams worry about and good teams figure out.
The Sabres should worry about getting the best player for Eichel. Period.
Byfield, Turcotte, Lafreniere, Stutzle, Byram, Keller etc.
They need one of the above ++ - sbroads24
That's fine, but you understand that any deal you make, you will not be getting the best player back in the deal. You're always getting an inferior player. 100% of the time. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Doesn’t jack Live with his girlfriend? - gerbe75pts
Could be, thought Jack and Rhino had a townhouse together. |
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