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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 8:53 PM ET
I’m sorry man but if the return for Eichel is simply Matt Beniers or Eklund, just fold this franchise for good.

Cap space means absolutely nothing to us if we’re moving Eichel

- sbroads24


You'll get that guy, plus whoever you pick at one, plus you'll suck next year, get a top-3 pick there and hopefully be ready to go in 2023 with a completely clean cap sheet

I'll hit myself with the stool now

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 10 @ 8:54 PM ET
If you are getting rid of all these contracts you're gonna have to get to the salary cap so having skinner Isn't going to be a big deal when we don't have a team
- gerbe75pts



9mm annual investment for top chance at Wright, then Michkov and Bedard, then send Skinner the Moulson route. This is long term logic by upper management, they know more to make these difficult decisions.

If you want to be a billionaire think like a...nvm just be a waitress
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 8:54 PM ET
Yeah but I am not saying a total rebuild, this is adding young NHL pieces to what we have already have. I don't need draft picks, they would be nice, but I want young NHL players. IMO opinion this team can compete know with the right pieces brought back.
- Buff36


I appreciate your optimism,
but what do u mean by “compete” exactly?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:55 PM ET
Wasn't saying you, just my opinion
- Buff36


Heres the quote btw

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.

That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 8:55 PM ET
50 shades of stink
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 8:56 PM ET
Heres the quote btw

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.

That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet

- gerbe75pts

They gone
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 10 @ 8:56 PM ET
Hearing Mike Schopp say

"We might be looking at the end of the franchise" makes me very sad.

It truly feels cataclysmic. People are starved for entertainment in a pandemic and no one gave a poop about the Sabres.

Hell, I'll be totally honest: I'm next in line for the blogger job and I'm more excited to see the BJs at Sahlen Field than I would be about Sabres tickets (and I really don't give a poop about baseball). This straight up (frank)ing sucks. It sucks.

I love the Sabres but it's a toxic relationship

- jcragcrumple


I mean...ya, of course! Who the fvck wouldn't watch that over the Sabres?
What channel is that on ?
9 _ _ what?

Is that really a prominent thing? And if so, how much are tickets?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:56 PM ET
You'll get that guy, plus whoever you pick at one, plus you'll suck next year, get a top-3 pick there and hopefully be ready to go in 2023 with a completely clean cap sheet

I'll hit myself with the stool now


- jcragcrumple


But you could get prospects And have them in the ahl ?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 8:56 PM ET
Heres the quote btw

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.

That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet

- gerbe75pts


Makes sense
They’re good buds- safe to assume they’ve talked
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 10 @ 8:56 PM ET
Heres the quote btw

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Reinhart said he's turning 26 and nobody wants to go through a rebuild.

That's how I know he talked to Jack Because why would he say rebuilding when the Jack news didn't come out yet

- gerbe75pts

Don't they live together
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
I appreciate your optimism,
but what do u mean by “compete” exactly?

- jdfitz77

Lose 4-2 instead of 5-1
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
You'll get that guy, plus whoever you pick at one, plus you'll suck next year, get a top-3 pick there and hopefully be ready to go in 2023 with a completely clean cap sheet

I'll hit myself with the stool now


- jcragcrumple

Yeah you can’t just throw him into this discussion like that’s part of the trade

I wouldn’t trade Cozens for anyone in this draft right now.

Would you be happy with Cozens for Eichel?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
But you could get prospects And have them in the ahl ?
- gerbe75pts

But you canned the ahl coach that developed guys
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 10 @ 8:58 PM ET
Or not. Like I said, if Seattle wants Eichel and Skinner for their 1st, I'm in.

That's a hard reset I can get behind

- jcragcrumple


You, and ...
.
.
.
You.

Crag Island.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 8:58 PM ET
Yeah you can’t just throw him into this discussion like that’s part of the trade

I wouldn’t trade Cozens for anyone in this draft right now.

Would you be happy with Cozens for Eichel?

- sbroads24

Casey looked much better IMO
Then cozens
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 8:58 PM ET
Don't they live together
- Buff36


Doesn’t jack Live with his girlfriend?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
I cant shake the feeling that we're punting a half a decade more into the sun
- jcragcrumple


At least
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
Yeah you can’t just throw him into this discussion like that’s part of the trade

I wouldn’t trade Cozens for anyone in this draft right now.

Would you be happy with Cozens for Eichel?

- sbroads24


The Sabres are never going to win this trade.

You have to ask yourself what specific goal you'd like to accomplish through the trade and laser-focus on that objective.

For me, that's a completely clean cap going forward
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
Getting rid of Skinner can work but you need two things at the end of the day:
1) A team he'd waive to
2) Two teams willing to take his term at $2.25M

Step One:
-Trade 2021 2nd along with Skinner while retaining $4.5M (50%) to Team 1

Step Two:
-Team 1 trades Skinner to Team 2 while retaining $2.25M (50%), but what are the problems?
-Team 2 really has to believe Skinner is a victim of playing in BUF to pay $2.25M for six years, until he's 34. What would they be willing to give that makes all this worth it at the end of the day for Team 1 to keep $2.25M for six years? I'd say at best a 2nd or at worst a 3rd.

What team would be willing to give up a second for six year of Jeff Skinner at $2.25M? Probably a team close to the cap who needs a bargain middle six winger and believes Skinner can still be that player.

Who could that be that team? Dallas? Edmonton? Washington? Nashville? Vegas?

I could see Vegas being Team 2. Would they give up what's needed?

At the end of the day Team 1 would be receiving possibly two 2nd round picks for $2.25M for six years.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
I appreciate your optimism,
but what do u mean by “compete” exactly?

- jdfitz77

Compete, play good hockey, make a run for the playoffs, get better as they grow together. Can't believe I am saying this, but more worried about Sam right know than Eichel
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 9:00 PM ET
But you canned the ahl coach that developed guys
- homiedclown


Seth appert did a wonderful job this year untill covid took over ?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 9:01 PM ET
The Sabres are never going to win this trade.

You have to ask yourself what specific goal you'd like to accomplish through the trade and laser-focus on that objective.

For me, that's a completely clean cap going forward

- jcragcrumple

The cap is something that perpetually bad teams worry about and good teams figure out.

The Sabres should worry about getting the best player for Eichel. Period.

Byfield, Turcotte, Lafreniere, Stutzle, Byram, Keller etc.

They need one of the above ++
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 9:01 PM ET
The Sabres are never going to win this trade.

You have to ask yourself what specific goal you'd like to accomplish through the trade and laser-focus on that objective.

For me, that's a completely clean cap going forward

- jcragcrumple


For me:
It’s gathering as much young talent as possible
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 10 @ 9:02 PM ET
The cap is something that perpetually bad teams worry about and good teams figure out.

The Sabres should worry about getting the best player for Eichel. Period.

Byfield, Turcotte, Lafreniere, Stutzle, Byram, Keller etc.

They need one of the above ++

- sbroads24


That's fine, but you understand that any deal you make, you will not be getting the best player back in the deal. You're always getting an inferior player. 100% of the time.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 10 @ 9:03 PM ET
Doesn’t jack Live with his girlfriend?
- gerbe75pts

Could be, thought Jack and Rhino had a townhouse together.
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