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The Kraken should steer clear of this me first, overrated, overpaid, often injured whiner. |
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If they did end up with him, why would they make him captain? So many teams do this and give it to a player because they are the highest paid or a very high draft pick. Hardly any players handed the captaincy right off the bat with a franchise end up being a good captain. |
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One of the benefits of Vegas first season is they were able to take the players who were "cast offs" and rally them around that idea. They showed every team that gave them up that they are worthy.
I hope the kraken doesn't spend the resources on Eichel. Would cost too much. |
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I see zero chance that Toews goes unprotected. Makar, Girard, and Toews are all easy bets for a protection slot even despite Johnson's NMC. I'm confident that a team like Colorado would rather keep a top-3 Dman over a top-6 W (Burakovsky or Donskoi). |
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I see zero chance that Toews goes unprotected. Makar, Girard, and Toews are all easy bets for a protection slot even despite Johnson's NMC. I'm confident that a team like Colorado would rather keep a top-3 Dman over a top-6 W (Burakovsky or Donskoi).
- MaximumBone
There are a few things in play for the Avs. Will Landeskog demand a contract before protection, will Johnson waive his NMC? I see it unlikely they want to lose Toews but I think they'll have to give something up to ensure that doesn't happen. |
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While anything is possible I sincerely doubt that Landeskog will demand anything from the organization. There's a really good reason he wears the 'C', and as has been pointed out already in this thread, not every team hands that letter out to the highest paid/drafted player.
I think both sides will want to lock him up as soon as possible just to have a deal done, but if they were to agree to a handshake deal signed after expansion that would be best for the team. I know a lot of players repeat the same cliches and rhetoric, but when this core says they want to stay together and win together it's very easy to believe.
Johnson at this point is obviously expendable, so if they can convince him to waive that would also be in their best interest. He probably knows that as well, but I can't imagine actually wanting to risk putting himself in a situation where he could go from perennial cup contender to expansion franchise.
The most likely scenario is probably what you mentioned with regards to the Avs having to "pay" the Kraken to take someone they can live without. There's no way Joe is letting Toews go, he's too smart for that, and Toews is too important to this team right now especially with all the injuries (again). |
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Time for fun:
To Seattle: Jack Eichel
To Buffalo: The Krak's 2021 1st round pick (top 5)
Seattle gets a "now" star to build around. Buffalo gets a do-over and replaces Jack with a prospect to grow with the current crop of very young guys they have. This would also give the Sabres TWO lottery tickets, as their own pick currently sits 1st overall. Having 2 of the top 5 picks sure felt good as a Sens fan last draft.
This trade will never happen. But if I were either team I'd do it... In a heart beat. |
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Time for fun:
To Seattle: Jack Eichel
To Buffalo: The Krak's 2021 1st round pick (top 5)
Seattle gets a "now" star to build around. Buffalo gets a do-over and replaces Jack with a prospect to grow with the current crop of very young guys they have. This would also give the Sabres TWO lottery tickets, as their own pick currently sits 1st overall. Having 2 of the top 5 picks sure felt good as a Sens fan last draft.
This trade will never happen. But if I were either team I'd do it... In a heart beat.
- PavohnDatsvares
One top-5 pick for an established star player? Not even close.
They'd get a better haul opening things up for a bidding war.
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One top-5 pick for an established star player? Not even close.
They'd get a better haul opening things up for a bidding war.
- Nasty_Duck
Yeah, they'd probably have to sweeten. |
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They gave the keys to the car to him in Buffalo....and how did that work out for them. I thought the Kracken already had a GM.
ROR sends his luck if this ever pans out. |
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There are a few things in play for the Avs. Will Landeskog demand a contract before protection, will Johnson waive his NMC? I see it unlikely they want to lose Toews but I think they'll have to give something up to ensure that doesn't happen.
- freelancer
Even if all things go against them, they still protect Toews over Burakovksy or Donskoi. 8 skater route where they protect Mackinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Kadri, Makar, Girard, Toews, and Johnson is still the clear play (even with Byram developing). The price for Seattle to not pick Burakovsky would be lower than the price for them to not pick Toews. |
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aries1976
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Eichel for 2021 1st round pick, and 2 other top 60 picks that are acquired in expansion draft, along with an expansion draft goalie taken.
That wouldn't be bad for either club. Buffalo needs a re-set, Seattle needs a young core player. |
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I actually think Seattle could become a broker in a Eichel trade by retaining salary then dealing him off to another team. Eichel at $10M is hard for most teams to take on, drop $5M in cap hit to Seattle and suddenly he becomes a bargain. Makes the asking price a bit steep, but it allows Buffalo to move him without retaining cap and Seattle to land a nice asset for doing what they need to do anyways, take on cap hit to get to the cap floor. |
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Eichel for 2021 1st round pick, and 2 other top 60 picks that are acquired in expansion draft, along with an expansion draft goalie taken.
That wouldn't be bad for either club. Buffalo needs a re-set, Seattle needs a young core player.
- aries1976
It would be bad for Buffalo. So you're half right...
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Even if all things go against them, they still protect Toews over Burakovksy or Donskoi. 8 skater route where they protect Mackinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Kadri, Makar, Girard, Toews, and Johnson is still the clear play (even with Byram developing). The price for Seattle to not pick Burakovsky would be lower than the price for them to not pick Toews.
- MaximumBone
Seattle is definitely getting something good from Colorado, whether it's Burakovsky, or they make a deal to give something up to protect him (you take Graves, we give you Donskoi too, kind of thing). I definitely can't see them not protecting Toews though, as you've said. |
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aries1976
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It would be bad for Buffalo. So you're half right...
- Nasty_Duck
Seattle's pick will be top 5, most likely.
Could be another couple 1st rd picks along with Jake Allen or Anton Khudobin... for a non- generational talent.
If Eichel doesn't want to return, why wouldn't Buffalo consider it.
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Nasty_Duck
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Seattle's pick will be top 5, most likely.
Could be another couple 1st rd picks along with Jake Allen or Anton Khudobin... for a non- generational talent.
If Eichel doesn't want to return, why wouldn't Buffalo consider it.
- aries1976
because that's a total crap-shoot.
A bidding war from teams that can offer skaters + picks would be more desirable IMO.
If they knew it was #1 pick then that might change things...
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aries1976
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because that's a total crap-shoot.
A bidding war from teams that can offer skaters + picks would be more desirable IMO.
If they knew it was #1 pick then that might change things...
- Nasty_Duck
If Seattle's pick was a number 1, im not sure it would be in play.
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There is no way Jack goes to a liberal Shthole like Seattle. Half his salary will go to security. |
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I think Seattle would have to eat Skinner amd or Okposo if this fairy tale were to become a reality. Your .05% chance would be a possibility if Seattle would eat a dead contract with Eichel |
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PavohnDatsvares
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Location: Ottawa, ON
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Monday @ 9:59 PM ET
Time for fun:
To Seattle: Jack Eichel
To Buffalo: The Krak's 2021 1st round pick (top 5)
Seattle gets a "now" star to build around. Buffalo gets a do-over and replaces Jack with a prospect to grow with the current crop of very young guys they have. This would also give the Sabres TWO lottery tickets, as their own pick currently sits 1st overall. Having 2 of the top 5 picks sure felt good as a Sens fan last draft.
This trade will never happen. But if I were either team I'd do it... In a heart beat.
Is this Kevin Adams? It’ll take a ton more than a first rd pick especially in this draft. If I were Buffalo I’d want those 1st rd picks to be in a rich draft not a weak one.
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