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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 1:58 PM ET
Also, money was not as much of a thing as it is today, advantages of playing elsewhere with less tax burden also plays a part into it.

I am sure Damphouse was more than happy with making $4-6 million playing in San Jose, rather than Montreal.

- Mashadar



that is also surely a factor... more taxes and more pressure aren't necessarily a very enticing combination
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

May 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
Je sais que le sujet a été épuisé, mais si vous avez le goût de lire autre chose que du "babyboomer trigger"

https://ici.radio-canada....-lnh-declin-developpement

- stinger67


What a nice and accurate article
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:00 PM ET
they played during a time where there were more quebecers though in MTL and across the league, so the spotlight wasn't on them as much. also, with social media it's a completely different ball game
- Pat1993


voilà. you got the point. if Habs had more than 2, who are currently injured, we woudn't have this debate about having none in the lineup for the 1st time in 100 years.
Leafs have 11 Ontario born players. 11.

but let's talk about something else. did you post your roster for game 1 againts TOR?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
Also, money was not as much of a thing as it is today, advantages of playing elsewhere with less tax burden also plays a part into it.

I am sure Damphouse was more than happy with making $4-6 million playing in San Jose, rather than Montreal.

- Mashadar

https://gavingroup.ca/nhl-tax-calculator/
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
voilà. you got the point. if Habs had more than 2, who are currently injured, we woudn't have this debate about having none in the lineup for the 1st time in 100 years.
Leafs have 11 Ontario born players. 11.

but let's talk about something else. did you post your roster for game 1 againts TOR?

- fidopro


I think you've kinda missed my point though... the habs might have more Quebecers if the number of Quebec born players playing in the NHL hadn't dropped so significantly... this "debate" stems from an old mentality that considers that Quebec's culture is in danger if there aren't enough french guys on the habs' roster.

and no I haven't posted it, just agreed with some lol
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's so easy to just not make stupid comments on a public forum.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 11 @ 2:09 PM ET
what's been going on while i was at lunch?
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 2:09 PM ET
Not many in the past 20 years.
- BashCH

Well I know Tanguay would have loved to come back but they poop on him, Lapierre loved it, Bouillon, Theodore said he would do it all over again even if it ended badly.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:09 PM ET
game is at 5pm tomorrow...wtf is that
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
Also, money was not as much of a thing as it is today, advantages of playing elsewhere with less tax burden also plays a part into it.

I am sure Damphouse was more than happy with making $4-6 million playing in San Jose, rather than Montreal.

- Mashadar

http://www.nhltradetracke...player/Damphousse,Vincent

That guy was involved in some weird trades
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
I think you've kinda missed my point though... the habs might have more Quebecers if the number of Quebec born players playing in the NHL hadn't dropped so significantly... this "debate" stems from an old mentality that considers that Quebec's culture is in danger if there aren't enough french guys on the habs' roster.

and no I haven't posted it, just agreed with some lol

- Pat1993

yes I know all that. it is certainly more difficult to find players, I'm not denying that.
but that is not an excuse. they have to work harder and show a real commitment to draft them, which they never did.
do you really think Serge Savard would have such a poor record? or if the Nordiques were still a thing, do you really believe Habs would not make an effort to draft more Quebec born players?
poser la question c'est y répondre.

Tatar - Danault - Gally
Toffoli - Suzuki - Anderson
Armia - kk - Perry
Lek - Evans - Byron

and if kk doesn't wake the (frank) up, you can expect Staal to replace him as soon as game #2 imo.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
game is at 5pm tomorrow...wtf is that
- Symba007

it's 17h00 if you are not familiar with the AM/PM system Symba
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_player/Damphousse,Vincent

That guy was involved in some weird trades

- Fredobbface



he was involved in the same trade as Peter Ing
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's so easy to just not make stupid comments on a public forum.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
he was involved in the same trade as Peter Ing
- Pat1993

Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
he was involved in the same trade as Peter Ing
- Pat1993

I'm Fredo Ing
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
yes I know all that. it is certainly more difficult to find players, I'm not denying that.
but that is not an excuse. they have to work harder and show a real commitment to draft them, which they never did.
do you really think Serge Savard would have such a poor record? or if the Nordiques were still a thing, do you really believe Habs would not make an effort to draft more Quebec born players?
poser la question c'est y répondre.

Tatar - Danault - Gally
Toffoli - Suzuki - Anderson
Armia - kk - Perry
Lek - Evans - Byron

and if kk doesn't wake the (frank) up, you can expect Staal to replace him as soon as game #2 imo.

- fidopro


actually you're right, it's not an "excuse", it's a very good explanation lol... but this feels like en endless debate, so it's all good
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
I think you've kinda missed my point though... the habs might have more Quebecers if the number of Quebec born players playing in the NHL hadn't dropped so significantly... this "debate" stems from an old mentality that considers that Quebec's culture is in danger if there aren't enough french guys on the habs' roster.

and no I haven't posted it, just agreed with some lol

- Pat1993

Alex Texier speaks French
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_player/Damphousse,Vincent

That guy was involved in some weird trades

- Fredobbface


Well at least it's obvious that when you trade for Vincent Damphousse.

Whatever you end up giving will be trash.
SPIDEROCKSTAR
Seattle Kraken
Location: 🚺 à la toilette des filles, QC
Joined: 08.08.2010

May 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
Karine
Hains: Harder than it Had to Be

For the second year in a row, the Canadiens will make the playoffs, not through the front door, but all roads lead to Rome as they say.

- Karine Hains

I think it’s time to rest Staal in playoff. His back could use a break.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
Alex Texier speaks French
- AdamFrench

so does Antoine Roussel
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:19 PM ET

- kicksave856



Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
actually you're right, it's not an "excuse", it's a very good explanation lol... but this feels like en endless debate, so it's all good
- Pat1993

I mean just look at Julien Brisebois, he's going out of his way to draft or sign alot of guys from here, his franchise seems to be doing alright. Does not have to be all first round picks
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's so easy to just not make stupid comments on a public forum.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 11 @ 2:19 PM ET

- Pat1993

you're the best, patrick!
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
I mean just look at Julien Brisebois, he's going out of his way to draft or sign alot of guys from here, his franchise seems to be doing alright. Does not have to be all first round picks
- Fredobbface


Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
so does Antoine Roussel
- Symba007

Speaking of which on a scale of 1 to 10, what grade between 0 and 1 do you give Ducharme in press conferences?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

May 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
Well I know Tanguay would have loved to come back but they poop on him, Lapierre loved it, Bouillon, Theodore said he would do it all over again even if it ended badly.
- Fredobbface


Less than 10 guys in the past 20 years is still not many. I believe most good Quebec players wouldn't come and play for the Habs. Grinders don't really mind it since the media aren't constantly poopting on them.
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