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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
Speaking of which on a scale of 1 to 10, what grade between 0 and 1 do you give Ducharme in press conferences?
- Fredobbface

I am mesmerized by his blue eyes
SPIDEROCKSTAR
Seattle Kraken
Location: đŸšș Ă  la toilette des filles, QC
Joined: 08.08.2010

May 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
Well I know Tanguay would have loved to come back but they poop on him, Lapierre loved it, Bouillon, Theodore said he would do it all over again even if it ended badly.
- Fredobbface

I think Bouillon is French American not French Canadian.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
I mean just look at Julien Brisebois, he's going out of his way to draft or sign alot of guys from here, his franchise seems to be doing alright. Does not have to be all first round picks
- Fredobbface


sure, not saying it's impossible for the habs to have better scouting in their own backyard, but they need to improve in that department all around, not just for Quebec players lol...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
Found Ric.....he went back to Pakistan to become a barber

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1392181963465842692
Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
voilĂ . you got the point. if Habs had more than 2, who are currently injured, we woudn't have this debate about having none in the lineup for the 1st time in 100 years.
Leafs have 11 Ontario born players. 11.

but let's talk about something else. did you post your roster for game 1 againts TOR?

- fidopro



Maybe if there were more than 35 players from Quebec in the NHL, your point might be valid.

I said might.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
sure, not saying it's impossible for the habs to have better scouting in their own backyard, but they need to improve in that department all around, not just for Quebec players lol...
- Pat1993


Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:24 PM ET
I think Bouillon is French American not French Canadian.
- SPIDEROCKSTAR

dual citizenship, born in the states, moves to Canada when he was years 3 old
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:26 PM ET
you're the best, patrick!
- kicksave856



aww.

I will never not be here for you.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

May 11 @ 2:26 PM ET
sure, not saying it's impossible for the habs to have better scouting in their own backyard, but they need to improve in that department all around, not just for Quebec players lol...
- Pat1993


Right now it's like 80% of their scouts are in the US.
Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 2:26 PM ET
yes I know all that. it is certainly more difficult to find players, I'm not denying that.
but that is not an excuse. they have to work harder and show a real commitment to draft them, which they never did.
do you really think Serge Savard would have such a poor record? or if the Nordiques were still a thing, do you really believe Habs would not make an effort to draft more Quebec born players?
poser la question c'est y répondre.

Tatar - Danault - Gally
Toffoli - Suzuki - Anderson
Armia - kk - Perry
Lek - Evans - Byron

and if kk doesn't wake the (frank) up, you can expect Staal to replace him as soon as game #2 imo.

- fidopro



How do you (frank)ing draft what is not there?

You complain about the Habs piss poor drafting, and now you complain that they are not taking lower level talent just because they are French... which would make their drafting even worse.

The issue is at the development level, not the NHL level.

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
so does Antoine Roussel
- Symba007

Who needs Cauliflower or Dave Suzuki anyways?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
Right now it's like 80% of their scouts are in the US.
- BashCH



https://www.nhl.com/canad...ns/team/hockey-operations
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
How do you (frank)ing draft what is not there?

You complain about the Habs piss poor drafting, and now you complain that they are not taking lower level talent just because they are French... which would make their drafting even worse.

The issue is at the development level, not the NHL level.

- Mashadar


as Leclerc's article suggests we might want to look at how we approach hockey and develop our youth in the province
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:33 PM ET
as Leclerc's article suggests we might want to look at how we approach hockey and develop our youth in the province
- Pat1993

so very true.
also, the fact NHL teams have 4 years to sign a NCAA player vs 2 years for a CHL kid makes a big difference.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:33 PM ET


https://www.nhl.com/canad...ns/team/hockey-operations

- Symba007


face Ă  claque

Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
as Leclerc's article suggests we might want to look at how we approach hockey and develop our youth in the province
- Pat1993


Agreed 100%.

What are other leagues doing better than the Q to make their prospect get to the NHL and be impact players more often? Pure talent is one thing that cannot be controlled, but better development can be, which is likely something heavily lacking right now.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
yes I know all that. it is certainly more difficult to find players, I'm not denying that.
but that is not an excuse. they have to work harder and show a real commitment to draft them, which they never did.
do you really think Serge Savard would have such a poor record? or if the Nordiques were still a thing, do you really believe Habs would not make an effort to draft more Quebec born players?
poser la question c'est y répondre.

Tatar - Danault - Gally
Toffoli - Suzuki - Anderson
Armia - kk - Perry
Lek - Evans - Byron

and if kk doesn't wake the (frank) up, you can expect Staal to replace him as soon as game #2 imo.

- fidopro

I think Caufield should take Armia's spot and everything else is good.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
Agreed 100%.

What are other leagues doing better than the Q to make their prospect get to the NHL and be impact players more often? Pure talent is one thing that cannot be controlled, but better development can be, which is likely something heavily lacking right now.

- Mashadar

I thought the consensus was Bouchard is doing well?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
I think Caufield should take Armia's spot and everything else is good.
- apex123

they are not sitting Armia in the playoffs, games will be more physical, he will play with KK I assume.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
face Ă  claque


- Pat1993

I prefer the Ancient Aliens guys being the assistant doctor.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:38 PM ET
I thought the consensus was Bouchard is doing well?
- apex123



oh we're talking about kids, way earlier than the AHL (at least I was lol)
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
I think Caufield should take Armia's spot and everything else is good.
- apex123

not impossible but I doubt it. experience, size...
maybe injuries will open a spot for him.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
oh we're talking about kids, way earlier than the AHL (at least I was lol)
- Pat1993

Oh do you mean not rush their development? Anyway I think it could all use a tear down except Bouchard.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:40 PM ET
I prefer the Ancient Aliens guys being the assistant doctor.
- AdamFrench


Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
oh we're talking about kids, way earlier than the AHL (at least I was lol)
- Pat1993


Before the Q and during their time in the Q is where changes need to happen.
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