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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
Agreed 100%.

What are other leagues doing better than the Q to make their prospect get to the NHL and be impact players more often? Pure talent is one thing that cannot be controlled, but better development can be, which is likely something heavily lacking right now.

- Mashadar

The Q has done a decent job of getting players into the NHL. Just going by Quebec isn't the full story as they provide the Maritimes/Americans/Euros as well. It's why Quebec itself hasn't provided a super star in a long time. Laf should be there and I seriously doubt he won't be a 35g-80p in two years, but it's been pretty rare. The best Quebec born player in the past 5 years is...Chabot?
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 2:42 PM ET
they are not sitting Armia in the playoffs, games will be more physical, he will play with KK I assume.
- Symba007

I think I'd definitely rather finishing ability and speed vs the Leafs. Then again like I said before they definitely want to play like the 2011 Bruins if they play the Leafs Ie hit everything and lots of trying to irritate Matthews from Gallagher and Perry. That said, I do think Caufield right now is probably better overall than Armia though.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 2:43 PM ET
The Q has done a decent job of getting players into the NHL. Just going by Quebec isn't the full story as they provide the Maritimes/Americans/Euros as well. It's why Quebec itself hasn't provided a super star in a long time. Laf should be there and I seriously doubt he won't be a 35g-80p in two years, but it's been pretty rare. The best Quebec born player in the past 5 years is...Chabot?
- AdamFrench


Did you mean to join the nhl in the past 5 years?

Otherwise the current best Quebec born player in the NHL is Huberdeau.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
Before the Q and during their time in the Q is where changes need to happen.
- Mashadar



better support for coaches (who a lot of them are simply volunteers) would be a good start
Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
better support for coaches (who a lot of them are simply volunteers) would be a good start
- Pat1993


Training and development (and nutrition and other forms of support) are needed for both players AND coaches, for sure.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
better support for coaches (who a lot of them are simply volunteers) would be a good start
- Pat1993

complicated issue. so many things to improve.
why not replicate what works well elsewhere? what do they do in Sweeden? in Finland?
and why not copy the NCAA system? scrap the LHJMQ, kids would go and play for schools, more training less games, NHL teams would then also have 4 years to sign them after the draft. this option is drastic and I don't expect to see it happen, but it would be an improvement imo.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
Did you mean to join the nhl in the past 5 years?

Otherwise the current best Quebec born player in the NHL is Huberdeau.

- Scabeh

I meant drafted in the past 5. Dubois might also be a contender, but he's been pretty "ehhhhh"

I'd say Bergeron still >_<
Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
The Q has done a decent job of getting players into the NHL. Just going by Quebec isn't the full story as they provide the Maritimes/Americans/Euros as well. It's why Quebec itself hasn't provided a super star in a long time. Laf should be there and I seriously doubt he won't be a 35g-80p in two years, but it's been pretty rare. The best Quebec born player in the past 5 years is...Chabot?
- AdamFrench


Fair enough.

But before kids get to the Q is also part of the issue, so that is purely a provincial thing.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
complicated issue. so many things to improve.
why not replicate what works well elsewhere? what to they do in Sweeden? in Finland?
and why not copy the NCAA system? scrap the LHJMQ, kids would go and play for schools, more training less games, NHL teams would then also have 4 years to sign them after the draft. this option is drastic and I don't expect to see it happen, but it would be an improvement imo.

- fidopro



a lot of things could be done so that the kids going in the Q are better prepared, hence improving the overall "product" and output to the NHL... I don't think you have to scrap the league but I get your point.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
I meant drafted in the past 5. Dubois might also be a contender, but he's been pretty "ehhhhh"

I'd say Bergeron still >_<

- AdamFrench


Yeah figured.

I'd go Chabot as well. Kid is amazing.

Pisses me off he's in Ottawa.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yeah figured.

I'd go Chabot as well. Kid is amazing.

Pisses me off he's in Ottawa.

- Scabeh

2015 was a solid draft year

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2015e.html
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 3:05 PM ET
2015 was a solid draft year

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2015e.html

- Symba007


It really was.

Juulsen.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 3:06 PM ET
2015 was a solid draft year

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2015e.html

- Symba007

why not have picked Beauvillier? just another example of a very long list...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 3:06 PM ET
It really was.

Juulsen.

- Scabeh

Aho in the 2nd round
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 3:09 PM ET
why not have picked Beauvillier? just another example of a very long list...
- fidopro


I was so goddamn sure they were gonna draft Beauvillier in 2015.

Guy had just scored like 40 goals in the Q and about 100 points in the Q.

My dad is still pissed about it.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 3:11 PM ET
I was so goddamn sure they were gonna draft Beauvillier in 2015.

My dad is still pissed about it.

- Scabeh


same thing with Hendrix Lapierre last year. not saying Guhle is a bad choice, the kid looks like a solid pick. but Lapierre was ranked right there, available.
at the end of the day, you have to draft them if you really want them.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
I was so goddamn sure they were gonna draft Beauvillier in 2015.

Guy had just scored like 40 goals in the Q and about 100 points in the Q.

My dad is still pissed about it.

- Scabeh

pick Aho in 2015, pick Tkatchuk in 2018
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
same thing with Hendrix Lapierre last year. not saying Guhle is a bad choice, the kid looks like a solid pick. but Lapierre was ranked right there, available.
at the end of the day, you have to draft them if you really want them.

- fidopro


I would have been fine with Lapierre. But it would have been a risky pick imo.

But Guhle was a very solid pick for the Habs. He was my 2nd choice when the Habs picked.

First choice was Mercer (anglo in the Q).
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
pick Aho in 2015, pick Tkatchuk in 2018
- Symba007

can you imagine. tabarnak
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 11 @ 3:16 PM ET
Did you mean to join the nhl in the past 5 years?

Otherwise the current best Quebec born player in the NHL is Huberdeau.

- Scabeh


"we should just put him on the Canadiens"

- Valerie Plante
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 11 @ 3:17 PM ET
can you imagine. tabarnak
- fidopro


no. i can't. i literally cannot imagine this team this team hitting a home run at the draft table.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 3:19 PM ET
no. i can't. i literally cannot imagine this team this team hitting a home run at the draft table.
- DoubleDown


lets promote the scout instead of firing him
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 11 @ 3:22 PM ET
why not have picked Beauvillier? just another example of a very long list...
- fidopro

Considering his inconsistencies, you guys would have driven him off the team two years ago.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 3:27 PM ET
Considering his inconsistencies, you guys would have driven him off the team two years ago.
- AdamFrench

and yet Timmins is still there 18 years later
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 3:28 PM ET
"we should just put him on the Canadiens"

- Valerie Plante

- DoubleDown



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