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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

May 11 @ 3:36 PM ET
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 3:38 PM ET

- BashCH


Suzuki... Nicolas Bombardier
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 3:39 PM ET
I am mesmerized by his blue eyes
- Symba007

Fair point
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

May 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
Suzuki... Nicolas Bombardier

- Pat1993


Serge Napoléon c'est subtile, j'aime bien.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

May 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
Serge Napoléon c'est subtile, j'aime bien.
- BashCH

Il frappe son Waterloo en séries
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 11 @ 3:54 PM ET
I know I'm late but mad day at work, the agreement between Bergevin and Staal was mentioned by Pierre Lebrun either on RDS or TSN can't remember which channel I was watching when he said it... I just remember thinking what a crock of....
SPIDEROCKSTAR
Seattle Kraken
Location: 🚺 à la toilette des filles, QC
Joined: 08.08.2010

May 11 @ 4:02 PM ET
Suzuki... Nicolas Bombardier

- Pat1993

Suzuki new initial: BRP
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 4:06 PM ET
I know I'm late but mad day at work, the agreement between Bergevin and Staal was mentioned by Pierre Lebrun either on RDS or TSN can't remember which channel I was watching when he said it... I just remember thinking what a crock of....
- Karine Hains

so they will sit Evans for him?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 11 @ 4:10 PM ET
so they will sit Evans for him?
- Symba007


There is simply no way.
SPIDEROCKSTAR
Seattle Kraken
Location: 🚺 à la toilette des filles, QC
Joined: 08.08.2010

May 11 @ 4:10 PM ET
I know I'm late but mad day at work, the agreement between Bergevin and Staal was mentioned by Pierre Lebrun either on RDS or TSN can't remember which channel I was watching when he said it... I just remember thinking what a crock of....
- Karine Hains

Just put Anderson with Perry and Staal in the 4th Line.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 11 @ 4:11 PM ET
Serge Napoléon c'est subtile, j'aime bien.
- BashCH


Too tall.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

May 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
Aho in the 2nd round
- Symba007

Kucherov in the 2nd. Point in the 3rd.
mr.peanut
Location: Fan of hockey, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 11 @ 4:55 PM ET
jajaja
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 4:56 PM ET
Kucherov in the 2nd. Point in the 3rd.
- gergeswillems


anyone wondering why they have a good team?
Mashadar
Location: I will not go into detail why we think we are a better team, but we feel we are a better team. - MB
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 11 @ 4:57 PM ET
anyone wondering why they have a good team?
- fidopro


If only Stevie Y was born in Quebec......
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 5:06 PM ET
If only Stevie Y was born in Quebec......
- Mashadar

not sure what it has to do with it, but ok
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
anyone wondering why they have a good team?
- fidopro

They also drafted Drouin over Jones which was a pretty bad mistake. I think the big thing that makes them good is they rebuilt properly. Hedman was a number 2 pick and they've had lots of near bottom finishes.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
They also drafted Drouin over Jones which was a pretty bad mistake. I think the big thing that makes them good is they rebuilt properly. Hedman was a number 2 pick and they've had lots of near bottom finishes.
- apex123

yes Hedman was a #2 pick. Galchenyuk and kk were #3. see the difference?
and yes Drouin was a bad pick, noone is prefect, we all make mistakes. the difference is that some make a lot less of them than others.
how many Kucherov and Point has Timmins drafted the past 18 years?
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 5:36 PM ET
yes Hedman was a #2 pick. Galchenyuk and kk were #3. see the difference?
and yes Drouin was a bad pick, noone is prefect, we all make mistakes. the difference is that some make a lot less of them than others.
how many Kucherov and Point has Timmins drafted the past 18 years?

- fidopro

I'm more playing devil's advocate because I agree that Timmins has been weak overall, but poor asset management has played a part too. The Galchenyuk draft was very weak; only Rielly is a semi decent player that went in the top 5 of that draft. Yakupov, Reinhart, Galchenyuk, and Murray were all more or less busts. KK the jury is still out. We knew Ka(frank) would be a top 6 player, but the hope is KK becomes a top 6 center which is what we need more. To answer your question about Point and Kucherov, 0 because they didn't draft anyone with those names. In terms of good picks that have been made Subban, McDonagh, Sergachev and Pacioretty were all good picks. Gallagher was a brilliant pick. Hell Lehkonen was an alright pick when you look at who went around him. Drafting Kucherov and especially Point were flukes much like drafting Gallagher. If anybody had any inkling of how good they would be they'd be gone top 5.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
Tim Stutzle scored his first hat trick, no fans in attendance to cheer him up.
no problem, they took care of it the day after.

apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 5:46 PM ET
Tim Stutzle scored his first hat trick, no fans in attendance to cheer him up.
no problem, they took care of it the day after.


- fidopro

We haven't tanked in the right draft to get a superstar player.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 5:51 PM ET
We haven't tanked in the right draft to get a superstar player.
- apex123

oh I agree. a team needs to draft top10 if not top5 very often, and also needs to be lucky to wn the lottery. and even then many fail.
but that doesn't mean they can not draft very good players later on. Kucherov (2nd rd) and Point (3rd rd). Aho (2nd rd), Bergeron (2nd rd) and Marchand (3rd rd) and Pastrnak (late 1st rd)... the list is endless. except for Timmins that is.
like you said, we have to go back 14 years for PK Subban.
and please, don't mention Lekhonen in the same group as Kucheorv and Point.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
oh I agree. a team needs to draft top10 if not top5 very often, and also needs to be lucky to wn the lottery. and even then many fail.
but that doesn't mean they can not draft very good players later on. Kucherov (2nd rd) and Point (3rd rd). Aho (2nd rd), Bergeron (2nd rd) and Marchand (3rd rd) and Pastrnak (late 1st rd)... the list is endless. except for Timmins that is.
like you said, we have to go back 14 years for PK Subban.
and please, don't mention Lekhonen in the same group as Kucheorv and Point.

- fidopro

Pacioretty was a late first and Gallagher was a 5th. I agree the overall performance has been weak though, but players like Marchand and Point going in the 3rd... clearly even the scouts who drafted them didn't know the extent of what they were drafting or else they would have been picked with a 2nd instead. I guess my point is no scout alive could be that good to consistently haul gold from poop. The team has to tank properly to be built properly.
AllenB
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 01.23.2021

May 11 @ 6:32 PM ET
a first in over 100 years. meant mentionning no?
- fidopro


When you don't draft any... I don't understand how you can be surprised by that...

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 11 @ 6:32 PM ET
Pacioretty was a late first and Gallagher was a 5th. I agree the overall performance has been weak though, but players like Marchand and Point going in the 3rd... clearly even the scouts who drafted them didn't know the extent of what they were drafting or else they would have been picked with a 2nd instead. I guess my point is no scout alive could be that good to consistently haul gold from poop. The team has to tank properly to be built properly.
- apex123


again, not what I'm saying. noone can hit for 1000.
but we have to aknowledge that some have a better record than others.
there's no secret. you have to draft well to succeed.
Habs miss the playoffs 4/5...
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