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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
now revamp this roster or next year will be a blood bath
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 1:38 PM ET
now revamp this roster or next year will be a blood bath
- 2Real


I am interested to see what Buffalo does. If they trade Eichel than I assume they are trading everyone. That means Ristolainen or Dahlin would be available. I would be fine with adding Risto as part of the top four and Dahlin to play with Provorov.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 11 @ 1:39 PM ET
I know very few people over 40 who are not vaccinated or like in my case have been given one shot, waiting for #2. I will agree it’s very sad that we aren’t being vaccinated as quick, but all I have to do is look at a country like India, who actually produces the vaccine I got is in a lot worse shape. Things were really slow until around April 20th....things have started to get a bit better now...not perfect....but that’s why we are still in a stay at home order.
- landros 2

Okay, that sounds fair. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Based on what I gather and my experience on both sides of the boarder, the American dollar dominates. Speaking in hockey terms, there was 7 teams in Canada and 24 in the US. The NHL would rather the Coyotes die in Arizona than ever let them go back to Winnipeg for years. I’m currently looking at houses in a seller’s market. Every bid is won based on a cash offer. Getting back to the topic at hand. How is it Americans are able to get their Dosage free and quickly over Canada? Again, I can count on one hand of how many of my friends and family in Canada are fully vaccinated. In the states, not only is it a choice, you can choose between option A, B, or C? In my opinion, Canada has to do better than “I didn’t know it would be out so soon”. This is important and if it isn’t about money, they need to be more responsible and keep up on this world wide Pandemic.
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 11 @ 1:40 PM ET
I am interested to see what Buffalo does. If they trade Eichel than I assume they are trading everyone. That means Ristolainen or Dahlin would be available. I would be fine with adding Risto as part of the top four and Dahlin to play with Provorov.
- mickel25

Why would they move Dahlin. It’s not like he’s 35 years old lol.

Btw he’s got the worst +/- of any player in the league.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 11 @ 1:41 PM ET
had lunch with a business partner from Canada, I forget the population amount but they had like 5 cases a day and were completely shut down, handing out fines if you were out.
- wcorvette

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
I am interested to see what Buffalo does. If they trade Eichel than I assume they are trading everyone. That means Ristolainen or Dahlin would be available. I would be fine with adding Risto as part of the top four and Dahlin to play with Provorov.
- mickel25

Whether it’s Eichel or Ristainen, I’d be making calls.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
Why would they move Dahlin. It’s not like he’s 35 years old lol.

Btw he’s got the worst +/- of any player in the league.

- hereticpride


Then he should be cheap right? I think he will come around as a player.

In my scenario, they are trading Eichel or have already traded Eichel. I would assume everyone would be available at that point. Maybe, maybe not but it does not seem to make a lot of sense to keep the rest of the team together after Eichel is traded.


landros 2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
Okay, that sounds fair. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Based on what I gather and my experience on both sides of the boarder, the American dollar dominates. Speaking in hockey terms, there was 7 teams in Canada and 24 in the US. The NHL would rather the Coyotes die in Arizona than ever let them go back to Winnipeg for years. I’m currently looking at houses in a seller’s market. Every bid is won based on a cash offer. Getting back to the topic at hand. How is it Americans are able to get their Dosage free and quickly over Canada? Again, I can count on one hand of how many of my friends and family in Canada are fully vaccinated. In the states, not only is it a choice, you can choose between option A, B, or C? In my opinion, Canada has to do better than “I didn’t know it would be out so soon”. This is important and if it isn’t about money, they need to be more responsible and keep up on this world wide Pandemic.
- SuperSchennBros



The biggest issue is still the manufacturing capabilities...other countries that did manufacturing put them selves at the front of the line. Like the US. Can’t blame countries for looking after their own, and I don’t. As well The government dropped the ball when companies like Pfizer and Moderna started taking orders, Canada was late to the party. We actually had really good numbers until this 3rd wave...like I said there’s no use in female doging and moaning. It is what it is. I’m doing my best to follow all the rules, simply because I’m not a doctor and am trying to err on the side of cation.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The only conspiracy against you is the one preventing you from taking an IQ test, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
Okay, that sounds fair. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Based on what I gather and my experience on both sides of the boarder, the American dollar dominates. Speaking in hockey terms, there was 7 teams in Canada and 24 in the US. The NHL would rather the Coyotes die in Arizona than ever let them go back to Winnipeg for years. I’m currently looking at houses in a seller’s market. Every bid is won based on a cash offer. Getting back to the topic at hand. How is it Americans are able to get their Dosage free and quickly over Canada? Again, I can count on one hand of how many of my friends and family in Canada are fully vaccinated. In the states, not only is it a choice, you can choose between option A, B, or C? In my opinion, Canada has to do better than “I didn’t know it would be out so soon”. This is important and if it isn’t about money, they need to be more responsible and keep up on this world wide Pandemic.
- SuperSchennBros


The US has 3.5 times more teams, but 10 times more people ...Canada is maxed out re: hockey revenue...
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

May 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
We ended up with the pavel Zacha of the group
- ClaudeFather


I wish NoPa had Zacha's goal count this year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
I am interested to see what Buffalo does. If they trade Eichel than I assume they are trading everyone. That means Ristolainen or Dahlin would be available. I would be fine with adding Risto as part of the top four and Dahlin to play with Provorov.
- mickel25

at what cost
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 11 @ 1:56 PM ET
Then he should be cheap right? I think he will come around as a player.

In my scenario, they are trading Eichel or have already traded Eichel. I would assume everyone would be available at that point. Maybe, maybe not but it does not seem to make a lot of sense to keep the rest of the team together after Eichel is traded.

- mickel25

I very much doubt they move him. Because Eichel wants out has nothing to do with him.

That’s like saying Coots is requesting a trade so we might as well take offers on Farabee.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
at what cost
- 2Real


Risto is signed for a few years and Dahlin would need a new contract. I would think a 1st this year and whatever other player the Sabres want. They might want a roster player or maybe a prospect. I am not sure.

Let's say this:

Buff Gets
1st round this year
NoPa

Flyers Get
Dahlin

Flyers only have $10mil in cap space before the ED.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 2:00 PM ET
I very much doubt they move him. Because Eichel wants out has nothing to do with him.

That’s like saying Coots is requesting a trade so we might as well take offers on Farabee.

- hereticpride


You are probably right. Personally, I would be shocked if they trade Eichel.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
Risto is signed for a few years and Dahlin would need a new contract. I would think a 1st this year and whatever other player the Sabres want. They might want a roster player or maybe a prospect. I am not sure.

Let's say this:

Buff Gets
1st round this year
NoPa

Flyers Get
Dahlin

Flyers only have $10mil in cap space before the ED.

- mickel25

why would buffalo ever consider that
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
I very much doubt they move him. Because Eichel wants out has nothing to do with him.

That’s like saying Coots is requesting a trade so we might as well take offers on Farabee.

- hereticpride


Trading Coots is a lot different than trading Eichel. Coots will be 30 and in the last year of his contract next year. Eichel is the franchise in Buffalo. If he goes that is a seismic move. I would assume other players are available in that scenario.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

May 11 @ 2:06 PM ET
I can’t fathom spending season ticket money on this team.
- hereticpride


I wish everyone would get the message...and the team would become a negative $$ to the shared revenue pot that Bettman covets like Smiegel covets the ring..
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 2:08 PM ET
why would buffalo ever consider that
- 2Real


So what would it take to get Dahlin?
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All Lives Matter, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
Hey did you guys know that Patrick had the third worst +/- in the league this year?

I wasn't sure if anyone had mentioned it.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
So what would it take to get Dahlin?
- mickel25

You are being serious are you? That offer was preposterous
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
You are being serious are you? That offer was preposterous
- ClaudeFather



Ok. I am asking you what it would take to get a trade done for Dahlin?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 11 @ 2:24 PM ET
Ok. I am asking you what it would take to get a trade done for Dahlin?
- mickel25

sanheim + 1st to start with

the only value nolan has is to sweeten a deal thats already being worked on
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
Trading Coots is a lot different than trading Eichel. Coots will be 30 and in the last year of his contract next year. Eichel is the franchise in Buffalo. If he goes that is a seismic move. I would assume other players are available in that scenario.
- mickel25

No way are they trading Dahlin over Eichel wanting out. They’ll continue to build with him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
sanheim + 1st to start with

the only value nolan has is to sweeten a deal thats already being worked on

- 2Real

Yes, that’s a good start
PLindbergh31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Company Stogeville, NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 11 @ 2:33 PM ET
Hey did you guys know that Patrick had the third worst +/- in the league this year?

I wasn't sure if anyone had mentioned it.

- MBFlyerfan


The -30 in 52 games was tough. But at least he averaged .17 PPG. Right where you expect a # 2 overall pick in his third NHL season to be.

When he sucks next year, everyone making excuses about him not playing last season, will have to go back to the drawing board.
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