I like the turnover, but where is all that money coming from? That's a lot of FAs, with only two players (8.5) coming off the books (but still needing to sign Petey and Hughes).
- NewYorkNuck

I don't think Petey and Hughes are coming in at 11M each are they?

Tryamkin isn't even playing for Russia national team. Why are some worried about him not signing?
- manvanfan

Mostly because they've been touting him as a saviour for our D since his D+1 year. Aside from that, no reason except that he's big.

David Quinn out in NY

with Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet noting just yesterday that Mike Babcock, John Tortorella, Bruce Boudreau, Gerard Gallant, Claude Julien, and others are available. Rick Tocchet also recently parted ways with the Arizona Coyotes and is expected to be taking interviews today, while others like Travis Green in Vancouver are still without contract extensions for next season.

I like the turnover, but where is all that money coming from? That's a lot of FAs, with only two players (8.5) coming off the books (but still needing to sign Petey and Hughes).
- NewYorkNuck

What about Beagle and Eriksson?

How much will all these UFA’s cost? What did they trade away? I’m sure they’ll be compliant...

I don't think Petey and Hughes are coming in at 11M each are they?
- manvanfan

They'll probably be 7-8 each, so 14-16 mil, leaving 5-7. Add the 8.5 for the trades/buyouts (assuming Beags is LTIR) and you're at 13.5-15.5.

Slepyshev (free agent) - N/A
Nosek (free agent) - 1.25
Savard (free agent) - 4.25
Martinez (free agent) - 4
Gambrell (trade) - .7

Those are their current contracts. I assume most of the will get an pay increase, especially through FA. I don't think they'll all be able to fit in, especially with some bonus carry over, signing Podk, etc.

I'm also not a big fan of throwing contracts at multiple 30+ year olds, assuming the Canucks will have to overpay in some way for them (dollars or term)

I don't think Petey and Hughes are coming in at 11M each are they?
- manvanfan

Since EP has not yet been a PPG player I highly doubt he gets that kind of money. and Quinn Hughes is a high offense, low defense player.
Quinns best comparable to me is Krug, despite the age difference that is who he compares to best in my eyes and he just got 6.5m as a UFA. UFA years are worth more than RFA and Quinn still has 4 of those left. I see Quinn's bridge deal being 2 or 3 years around that 6.5m mark. I read his best comparable is Chabot, who got 8 years 8m and just started that contract this year. IF Hughes signs an 8 year contract, that is the ceiling of what he should get. Chabot is also a better player than Hughes, though a few years older.

EP is a bit harder to compare. Aho to me is the best comparable, 5 years 8.5m. To me it is better to either pay a little more for 8, or a little less for 3. so maybe something like 8 years 9.5m or 3 years 7m would be right where he should be. Aho also signed his deal with 1 point over a ppq pace his 3rd year, EP was below that before his injury.

David Quinn out in NY
- manvanfan

Makes sense, a lot of teams need coaches. Right now it is smart not to re-sign and to see what is out there to negotiate a higher salary.

They'll probably be 7-8 each, so 14-16 mil, leaving 5-7. Add the 8.5 for the trades/buyouts (assuming Beags is LTIR) and you're at 13.5-15.5.

Slepyshev (free agent) - N/A
Nosek (free agent) - 1.25
Savard (free agent) - 4.25
Martinez (free agent) - 4
Gambrell (trade) - .7

Those are their current contracts. I assume most of the will get an pay increase, especially through FA. I don't think they'll all be able to fit in, especially with some bonus carry over, signing Podk, etc.

I'm also not a big fan of throwing contracts at multiple 30+ year olds, assuming the Canucks will have to overpay in some way for them (dollars or term)
- NewYorkNuck

I would be surprised if Martinez and Savard get into the 4's this season. So that leaves still a few million.

Plus the team will have Beagle and Ferland on LTIR. That's another 6.5M in cap space. The LE buyout saves 2m.

I don't think Petey and Hughes are coming in at 11M each are they?
- manvanfan

No way. 7.5 ish as a guess. Petey will be Barzalish

For VHG. You might be right about Reinhart wanting out. Risto as well.

https://www.wgrz.com/arti...1b-4906-8de9-f17e2b92a196

They'll probably be 7-8 each, so 14-16 mil, leaving 5-7. Add the 8.5 for the trades/buyouts (assuming Beags is LTIR) and you're at 13.5-15.5.

Slepyshev (free agent) - N/A
Nosek (free agent) - 1.25
Savard (free agent) - 4.25
Martinez (free agent) - 4
Gambrell (trade) - .7

Those are their current contracts. I assume most of the will get an pay increase, especially through FA. I don't think they'll all be able to fit in, especially with some bonus carry over, signing Podk, etc.

I'm also not a big fan of throwing contracts at multiple 30+ year olds, assuming the Canucks will have to overpay in some way for them (dollars or term)
- NewYorkNuck

I think the Sakic approach works best. Let the young guys play use cap space as a weapon to get.complimentary pieces all while having tons of cap room year after year until your team is ready to push then you can afford to over pay if you need to and get that piece or two that will push you over the top. I'll bet the Avs will be the fave to land Sidney this off season


Say something like Byrum Naz a 1st and a 2nd or something. Helps Pitts rebuild and Colorado is stacked for 2 to 3 years

I would be surprised if Martinez and Savard get into the 4's this season. So that leaves still a few million.

Plus the team will have Beagle and Ferland on LTIR. That's another 6.5M in cap space. The LE buyout saves 2m.
- manvanfan

That's already calculated in the cap space they have now for next season. Via CapFriendly it's just over 22 mil right now.. buyout LE and JV it's 25.7 mil.

Edit: With trading Schmidt it's 31.6

For VHG. You might be right about Reinhart wanting out. Risto as well.

https://www.wgrz.com/arti...1b-4906-8de9-f17e2b92a196
- Load Management

We know JB had a hard on for Sam Reinhart in his draft year, question is will he be GM when he's moved? Buffalo would make a perfect trade partner with the sh*t show thats going on there. We need an upgrade at C, why I'm hoping for Matthew Beniers at the draft. Hell I'd even go in on Risto. You need a smart gunslinger GM to pull it off. Just keep on losing games baby!

Quinn Hughes is a high offense, low defense player.
Quinns best comparable to me is Krug, despite the age difference that is who he compares to best in my eyes and he just got 6.5m as a UFA. UFA years are worth more than RFA and Quinn still has 4 of those left. I see Quinn's bridge deal being 2 or 3 years around that 6.5m mark. I read his best comparable is Chabot, who got 8 years 8m and just started that contract this year. IF Hughes signs an 8 year contract, that is the ceiling of what he should get. Chabot is also a better player than Hughes, though a few years older.
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- Retinalz

I'd offer Quinn 5.25mil - and I'd use McAvoy, Chychrun & Sergachev deals as comparisons and basically offer a slightly inflated version of those - say great job on the offense kid but your D is atrocious. Or wait until Heiskanen/Makar are signed and then give QH a fraction of those contracts.

For VHG. You might be right about Reinhart wanting out. Risto as well.

https://www.wgrz.com/arti...1b-4906-8de9-f17e2b92a196
- Load Management

I read some articles yesterday saying as much. Eichel, Reinhart & Risto are all looking for greener pastures. I guess it's nice to see another franchise doing a little worse than the Canucks. Hopefully this is an off season of big changes for the Canucks.


How was your sausage party?

I read some articles yesterday saying as much. Eichel, Reinhart & Risto are all looking for greener pastures. I guess it's nice to see another franchise doing a little worse than the Canucks. Hopefully this is an off season of big changes for the Canucks.


How was your sausage party?
- Marwood

They'll probably be 7-8 each, so 14-16 mil, leaving 5-7. Add the 8.5 for the trades/buyouts (assuming Beags is LTIR) and you're at 13.5-15.5.

Slepyshev (free agent) - N/A
Nosek (free agent) - 1.25
Savard (free agent) - 4.25
Martinez (free agent) - 4
Gambrell (trade) - .7

Those are their current contracts. I assume most of the will get an pay increase, especially through FA. I don't think they'll all be able to fit in, especially with some bonus carry over, signing Podk, etc.

I'm also not a big fan of throwing contracts at multiple 30+ year olds, assuming the Canucks will have to overpay in some way for them (dollars or term)
- NewYorkNuck

I can't see savard or martinez getting too much more, pretty much the same as Tanev last year. Tanev being thw better pf all three.

I'd offer Quinn 5.25mil - and I'd use McAvoy, Chychrun & Sergachev deals as comparisons and basically offer a slightly inflated version of those - say great job on the offense kid but your D is atrocious. Or wait until Heiskanen/Makar are signed and then give QH a fraction of those contracts.
- Brooks_Light

That's about the price if he does a bridge imo. Not a terrible option.

That's already calculated in the cap space they have now for next season. Via CapFriendly it's just over 22 mil right now.. buyout LE and JV it's 25.7 mil.

Edit: With trading Schmidt it's 31.6
- NewYorkNuck

PROJECTED CAP HIT $86,009,407 $65,676,879
PROJECTED CAP SPACE $0 $15,823,121

That's copy and pasted from Capfriendly so I'm not sure where you are reading that it's already calculated in.

I can't see savard or martinez getting too much more, pretty much the same as Tanev last year. Tanev being thw better pf all three.
- neem55

Savard is 30, Martinez is 33 (34 before the start of the season). We got rid of Tanev and Marky because they were too old, and we want to get two more older guys on the team through free agency?

If you can sign them for a year or two, great. But I doubt that's the case, as Tanev got 4.

That's already calculated in the cap space they have now for next season. Via CapFriendly it's just over 22 mil right now.. buyout LE and JV it's 25.7 mil.

Edit: With trading Schmidt it's 31.6
- NewYorkNuck

Why would we trade tge only other long term top4 guy? Edler has got no more gas and Myers is at best a number 4 but will only decline out of that. Makes zero sense.

I think the Sakic approach works best. Let the young guys play use cap space as a weapon to get.complimentary pieces all while having tons of cap room year after year until your team is ready to push then you can afford to over pay if you need to and get that piece or two that will push you over the top. I'll bet the Avs will be the fave to land Sidney this off season


Say something like Byrum Naz a 1st and a 2nd or something. Helps Pitts rebuild and Colorado is stacked for 2 to 3 years
- Jkuzzi

The Aves are losing their captain (Landy) and Saad. Vets Bellemare, Soderberg, Nemeth (no biggy). They need BOTH a starting and backup goalie and have to sign RFAs - Makar, Jost, Timmins and have about 20mil to do so - I don't know about you but that doesnt scream "tons of cap room" to me.

PROJECTED CAP HIT $86,009,407 $65,676,879
PROJECTED CAP SPACE $0 $15,823,121

That's copy and pasted from Capfriendly so I'm not sure where you are reading that it's already calculated in.
- manvanfan

CapFriendly > Armchair GM > Canucks 2021-22 > Cap Space

ROSTER SIZE – SALARY CAP –CAP HIT – OVERAGES  – BONUSES – CAP SPACE
15 ––– $81,500,000 –– $59,176,879 ––– $0 –––– $1,050,000 ––$22,323,121

That's before any buyouts or trades

Why would we trade tge only other long term top4 guy? Edler has got no more gas and Myers is at best a number 4 but will only decline out of that. Makes zero sense.
- neem55

Not my idea to trade him, I want to keep him and trade Myers. But manvan was putting it out there, so just going over the numbers

Savard is 30, Martinez is 33 (34 before the start of the season). We got rid of Tanev and Marky because they were too old, and we want to get two more older guys on the team through free agency?

If you can sign them for a year or two, great. But I doubt that's the case, as Tanev got 4.
- NewYorkNuck

I wasn't planning on signing them to 4 and 6 year deals.