it's a damn shame that Hedman is going to win because that's just how they vote (fox didnt make the playoffs). Fox absolutely had the best season by a defenseman in every meaningful measurable way except goals
- picklerick

Of course Hedman is going to win. Doesn't take away Fox's recognition though.

Anyone read the article this guy Tam Bamford proposed for Eichel??

So a full package could look like:

Rangers receive Jack Eichel
Sabres receive Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Matthew Robertson + the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2021 (#15 overall)

if we somehow lock him up long term to only $7m per year i would be happy
- picklerick

Rather try to keep the cost down for a few years, although I can see them locking him up long-term for lower $$$$ now.

Drury's big test.

Anyone read the article this guy Tam Bamford proposed for Eichel??

So a full package could look like:

Rangers receive Jack Eichel
Sabres receive Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Matthew Robertson + the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2021 (#15 overall)
- Brukie

Still not sold on Eichel with the spinal issue.

Anyone read the article this guy Tam Bamford proposed for Eichel??

So a full package could look like:

Rangers receive Jack Eichel
Sabres receive Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Matthew Robertson + the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2021 (#15 overall)
- Brukie

If Eichel was healthy or it wasn't a neck issue sure. I think there are too many pieces there but maybe I'm wrong. Granted if Eichel was healthy it likely isn't enough so maybe the value is close.

Anyone read the article this guy Tam Bamford proposed for Eichel??

So a full package could look like:

Rangers receive Jack Eichel
Sabres receive Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Matthew Robertson + the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2021 (#15 overall)
- Brukie

I think that is actually a pretty reasonable package FOR A HEALTHY Eichel. But personally, I still wouldn't want us to pay it.

I think that is actually a pretty reasonable package FOR A HEALTHY Eichel. But personally, I still wouldn't want us to pay it.
- Tonybere

I actually think it isn't enough for a healthy Eichel.

I think that is actually a pretty reasonable package FOR A HEALTHY Eichel. But personally, I still wouldn't want us to pay it.
- Tonybere

is Eichel even playing next season??

Anyone read the article this guy Tam Bamford proposed for Eichel??

So a full package could look like:

Rangers receive Jack Eichel
Sabres receive Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Matthew Robertson + the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2021 (#15 overall)
- Brukie

Honestly I would do that trade if that is the center the Rangers decide to move on. To get him without giving up any of your top prospects or young players is a win.

Anyone read the article this guy Tam Bamford proposed for Eichel??

So a full package could look like:

Rangers receive Jack Eichel
Sabres receive Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Matthew Robertson + the Rangers’ first-round pick in 2021 (#15 overall)
- Brukie

I would do that even with the injury concern.

Opens up the RW for Kakko and Kravs in the top 6. Also opens up a place on the third line for a “grit/physical” RW (who that is, tbd)

Chytil replaced by Eichel. Both have variables attached to them that could make them boom/bust candidates. Chytil in the form of development, Eichel the injury. Also slots Strome down to the third, where I think he will be even more effective.

Would suck to lose Robertson. I think he is going to be good. But we’re going to lose someone good one way or another.

I’m not a fan of trading the 15oa, but not going to lose sleep over it in a deal like this.

I would do that even with the injury concern.

Opens up the RW for Kakko and Kravs in the top 6. Also opens up a place on the third line for a “grit/physical” RW (who that is, tbd)

Chytil replaced by Eichel. Both have variables attached to them that could make them boom/bust candidates. Chytil in the form of development, Eichel the injury. Also slots Strome down to the third, where I think he will be even more effective.

Would suck to lose Robertson. I think he is going to be good. But we’re going to lose someone good one way or another.

I’m not a fan of trading the 15oa, but not going to lose sleep over it in a deal like this.
- Bean_Dip

I agree but I am worried because Schneider and Robertson look like they could be the next young versions of Suter/Weber.

I agree but I am worried because Schneider and Robertson look like they could be the next young versions of Suter/Weber.
- JRR1285

Maybe sweeten the player pot to avoid the loss of the first rounder this year?

Buchnevich
Lundkvist
Chytil

In Lundkvist the Rangers send over what looks like a can't miss prospect but are dealing from a position of strength. He's also a little on the smaller side. They can use the 15OA to draft a center.

Or maybe target someone else completely? What would it take to get Sam Reinhart? He doesn't sound too happy in Buffalo.

- eichiefs9

Fine, a poor mans version.

Just saying that their size would be welcome on the backend in the future and they have some significant praise being placed on them.

Fine, a poor mans version.

Just saying that their size would be welcome on the backend in the future and they have some significant praise being placed on them.
- JRR1285

Just breaking your balls

Maybe sweeten the player pot to avoid the loss of the first rounder this year?

Buchnevich
Lundkvist
Chytil

In Lundkvist the Rangers send over what looks like a can't miss prospect but are dealing from a position of strength. He's also a little on the smaller side. They can use the 15OA to draft a center.

Or maybe target someone else completely? What would it take to get Sam Reinhart? He doesn't sound too happy in Buffalo.
- JRR1285

Poor Nils, No love

Poor Nils, No love
- Brukie

I actually had a qualifier in there to avoid this reaction. I left it out of the edit.

I don't want to trade Nils, but someone has to go. He's basically Swedish Fox. Could he be better? Maybe, but unlikely. I just view him as a slightly redundant piece. I hope he sticks around and fights for the Calder next year. It would be a great problem to have.

I would love them to keep all of the prospects but it's simply not going to happen. I just proposed a deal that would allow the Rangers to retain that 15th pick.

I actually had a qualifier in there to avoid this reaction. I left it out of the edit.

I don't want to trade Nils, but someone has to go. He's basically Swedish Fox. Could he be better? Maybe, but unlikely. I just view him as a slightly redundant piece. I hope he sticks around and fights for the Calder next year. It would be a great problem to have.

I would love them to keep all of the prospects but it's simply not going to happen. I just proposed a deal that would allow the Rangers to retain that 15th pick.
- JRR1285

Ahh Ok

My question is, would the 15th pick have a higher ceiling than Nils has? Trading these prospects is tough, we think they all have high ceilings, they all cant. I think waiting another season to see how they perform, unless it is for a center, is the right way to go.

Ahh Ok

My question is, would the 15th pick have a higher ceiling than Nils has? Trading these prospects is tough, we think they all have high ceilings, they all cant. I think waiting another season to see how they perform, unless it is for a center, is the right way to go.
- Brukie

I'm not gonna disagree there.

It's not that the pick would necessarily have a higher ceiling. But it can hopefully be a center or another forward with decent potential to replenish the system after trading away those pieces in a hypothetical Eichel trade.

Ahh Ok

My question is, would the 15th pick have a higher ceiling than Nils has? Trading these prospects is tough, we think they all have high ceilings, they all cant. I think waiting another season to see how they perform, unless it is for a center, is the right way to go.
- Brukie

if i'm a team trading with us and it's between Nils and the 15th pick i would take Nils every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Ahh Ok

My question is, would the 15th pick have a higher ceiling than Nils has? Trading these prospects is tough, we think they all have high ceilings, they all cant. I think waiting another season to see how they perform, unless it is for a center, is the right way to go.
- Brukie

My (flawed) logic for wanting to keep 15oa is to keep the cupboard replenished for 3-4 years down the line when we should be in striking distance of making a long run. That player we draft could be used to draw in the “final piece” or used as a cheap contract on the roster.

I actually wouldn’t mind JRR’s proposal. Losing Nils over Robertson & 15 is more palatable.

My (flawed) logic for wanting to keep 15oa is to keep the cupboard replenished for 3-4 years down the line when we should be in striking distance of making a long run. That player we draft could be used to draw in the “final piece” or used as a cheap contract on the roster.

I actually wouldn’t mind JRR’s proposal. Losing Nils over Robertson & 15 is more palatable.
- Bean_Dip

i feel like our playoff runs have to come sooner than 3-4 years but i take your point on the picks

I agree but I am worried because Schneider and Robertson look like they could be the next young versions of Suter/Weber.
- JRR1285

Starting to think this way as well. Would like to see them all in camp this year but at this point I think I would prefer trading Lundkvist and/or Jones. Lundkvist probably with the most trade value (Schneider equal or close). With Fox here running PP1 and eating a ton of minutes with Lindgren, those 2 guys just seem to be a better fit. KeAndre and Trouba seem like a solid pair for the next for years too. Really like the balance of that 6.

Starting to think this way as well. Would like to see them all in camp this year but at this point I think I would prefer trading Lundkvist and/or Jones. Lundkvist probably with the most trade value (Schneider equal or close). With Fox here running PP1 and eating a ton of minutes with Lindgren, those 2 guys just seem to be a better fit. KeAndre and Trouba seem like a solid pair for the next for years too. Really like the balance of that 6.
- TC88

Fox on PP1
Trouba, Miller, Lundkvist, Schneider, Jones on PP2 (1st ALL Dman PP in NHL history!)

Fox on PP1
Trouba, Miller, Lundkvist, Schneider, Jones on PP2 (1st ALL Dman PP in NHL history!)
- rrentz

might not be a terrible look