Why are we taking back 2 LD
- Buff36

If we take Bjornfot hopefully we don't take power that guy is going to special

Ok, let's say character for all top prospects is the same. Extremely driven, highly competitive, extremely coachable, etc.

Then, who plays the most valuable position? Is it 1D or 1C? What is their upside at respective positions? Does Luke Hughes overcome Owen Power in D+3/4? Does Eklund project to score 85 points on the wing playing like Ehlers, vs Beniers who plays the game like Toews, scoring 60 points a year... who is more valuable? That's a good question.

Project their physical attributes by their body composition today, which is relatively easy to do.. then you determine how dominant these kids can be by their existing and projected attributes. I wouldn't be mad if I snagged new Erik Karlsson, new Jonathan Toews, or new Nikolaj Ehlers
- TheSabresTaco

Great post.

nonsense. accumulate good players! He can play all F spots.
- TheSabresTaco

Rather have Elvis, but I get what your saying

If we take Bjornfot hopefully we don't take power that guy is going to special
- gerbe75pts

What do you make of the scouting report that says Owen Power could be a Byfuglien/Burns combo dman and forward?

If we take Bjornfot hopefully we don't take power that guy is going to special
- gerbe75pts

Why would Maata be coming back anyways, LA got the cap space and your taking Quick back at almost 6m

This is fair
- DirtyDan

Jack Campbell, 2010, 10th OA.. probably closest to average.. until this year.

Jonathan Bernier, 2006, 11th OA

Al Montoya, 2004, 6th OA

Dan Blackburn, 2001, 10th OA

Brent Krahn, 2000, 9th OA

There's your goalie busts/average at best guys in the past 20 years in the top 11

Why would Maata be coming back anyways, LA got the cap space and your taking Quick back at almost 6m
- Buff36

Sabres have the space for cap dumps to maximize returns. 2 years on Quick, 1 for Maata. If the package gets you Bjornfot on top of Byfield and Iafallo for Olofsson, it's a massive win.

What do you make of the scouting report that says Owen Power could be a Byfuglien/Burns combo dman and forward?
- Hank Balling

Power isn't physical and doesn't sport a beard. His offensive upside is constantly noted as limited.

D-

Project their physical attributes by their body composition today, which is relatively easy to do.. then you determine how dominant these kids can be by their existing and projected attributes. I wouldn't be mad if I snagged new Erik Karlsson, new Jonathan Toews, or new Nikolaj Ehlers
- TheSabresTaco

as to your add on:

that's the upper-end...however power may equal myers, beniers somewhere between bennett and peca...or eklund an anthony beauvillier, hughes a samuel girard...we all know what happened in 2014...

ekblad and sam are exactly what they were touted to be...bennet took a dive and draisaitl came out as the most dynamic player in the draft

Sabres have the space for cap dumps to maximize returns. 2 years on Quick, 1 for Maata. If the package gets you Bjornfot on top of Byfield and Iafallo for Olofsson, it's a massive win.
- TheSabresTaco

I would think Byfield and Bjornfot and 8 for Eichel would happen without a camp dump, Quick I could see if Olofsson was included for Iafallo.

as to your add on:

that's the upper-end...however power may equal myers, beniers somewhere between bennet and peca...or eklund an anthony beauvillier, hughes a samuel girard...we all know what happened in 2014...

ekblad and sam are exactly what they were touted to be...bennet took a dive and draisaitl came out as the most dynamic player in the draft
- Michael Pachla

Such is scouting. But that's irrelevant for this particular discussion, since this is only highest projection base and not a hindsight conversation. But I hear you. I think floor and ceiling both go into BPA.

Jack Campbell, 2010, 10th OA.. probably closest to average.. until this year.

Jonathan Bernier, 2006, 11th OA

Al Montoya, 2004, 6th OA

Dan Blackburn, 2001, 10th OA

Brent Krahn, 2000, 9th OA

There's your goalie busts/average at best guys in the past 20 years in the top 11
- TheSabresTaco

I was just saying that If you have a goalie in the Price category he's the most valuable to a team. Its just the most unknown when drafting. How many top 10 goalies have joined that type of goalie class?

My guess is not many. I dont know though and im a little busy to do my due diligence

Jack Campbell, 2010, 10th OA.. probably closest to average.. until this year.

Jonathan Bernier, 2006, 11th OA

Al Montoya, 2004, 6th OA

Dan Blackburn, 2001, 10th OA

Brent Krahn, 2000, 9th OA

There's your goalie busts/average at best guys in the past 20 years in the top 11
- TheSabresTaco

It's odd to me, but things may have changed here. Used to be, picking a goalie in the first round was bound to end up a poor value pick.

Now with Askarov, Knight, Samsonov, Oettinger, Vasilevsky and others looking like bonafide starters, I wonder if that is still the case.

High price to pay for a goalie. That being said, one or two truly great ones are getting into the top30 picks seemingly every year now.

I would think Byfield and Bjornfot and 8 for Eichel would happen without a camp dump, Quick I could see if Olofsson was included for Iafallo.
- Buff36

I do not feel this way. If it happens, I will happily applaud you. Just seems astronomical for the Kings.

It's odd to me, but things may have changed here. Used to be, picking a goalie in the first round was bound to end up a poor value pick.

Now with Askarov, Knight, Samsonov, Oettinger, Vasilevsky and others looking like bonafide starters, I wonder if that is still the case.

High price to pay for a goalie. That being said, one or two truly great ones are getting into the top30 picks seemingly every year now.
- RhinoFan

Agreed. This decade, teams have hit on their early goalie picks.

Such is scouting. But that's irrelevant for this particular discussion, since this is only highest projection base and not a hindsight conversation. But I hear you. I think floor and ceiling both go into BPA.
- TheSabresTaco

the sabres need players who can beat a vasilevsky-type goalie...eklund has that type of shot and quick release where a millisecond is the difference between a goal and a save

Power isn't physical and doesn't sport a beard. His offensive upside is constantly noted as limited.

D-
- TheSabresTaco

You guys say he isn't physical but he does use his body and length very well.

Hes just not laying the big body checks.

I would think Byfield and Bjornfot and 8 for Eichel would happen without a camp dump, Quick I could see if Olofsson was included for Iafallo.
- Buff36

LA wants to add multiple forwards and a d-man.

They are going to want to shed cap or create an even trade to balance cap space so they can add more.

You guys say he isn't physical but he does use his body and length very well.

Hes just not laying the big body checks.
- DirtyDan

henrik tallinder did the same

LA wants to add multiple forwards and a d-man.

They are going to want to shed cap or create an even trade to balance cap space so they can add more.
- ImThatGuy

Sell their future and take our 3 misfits

henrik tallinder did the same
- Michael Pachla

Don't need to be laying people out to use your body.

I watched him stiff arm a guy straight to the ice like he was a fullback

the sabres need players who can beat a vasilevsky-type goalie...eklund has that type of shot and quick release where a millisecond is the difference between a goal and a save
- Michael Pachla

Power isn't physical and doesn't sport a beard. His offensive upside is constantly noted as limited.

D-
- TheSabresTaco

When the Sabres make that 1st pick, are they considering how well a guy like powers pairs up with dahlin?

Are we projecting d pairings?

Nylander pick clearly seemed to be eichels winger.

Don't need to be laying people out to use your body.

I watched him stiff arm a guy straight to the ice like he was a fullback
- DirtyDan

true story...jacob bryson isn't big, but his positioning, balance and use of leverage makes him effective

You guys say he isn't physical but he does use his body and length very well.

Hes just not laying the big body checks.
- DirtyDan

Yes. At 6'6" he should be using his body more instead of just his reach. For a guy arguably at 1 OA.