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RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
Same. I don't get the sense that Adams is a pushover. He reiterates a theme of community, a bunch of guys running in the same direction, guys who truly want to be here.

That doesn't line up with 'I'll do anything to placate Jack."

- TheSabresTaco


Beane and McDermott were saying similar things around 2017/2018 and fans (and local media) scoffed at them.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
One of the few things I picked up from his presser is that it's the Pegula's, not Jacks
- Stripes77


Fixed it for you. We all know Adams is just a puppet
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Is it placating Jack if he wants the organization to build a winning team before he retires?
I think not.

- IonSabres


I dont think there would be any way to read a Quinn hiring as anything other than placating Jack. Playing hardball with Eichel's neckbones tells me that Eichel's desires are secondary to Adams's plans
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
Fixed it for you. We all know Adams is just a puppet
- bluengold12

Is Beane a puppet?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
Is it placating Jack if he wants the organization to build a winning team before he retires?
I think not.

- IonSabres


It is if they hire Quinn, and the whole world knows it
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
The team belongs to the FANS, not Adams or Jack.
- RichardRoma

The team belongs to the Pegulas. Fans are simply along for the ride
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
Beane and McDermott were saying similar things around 2017/2018 and fans (and local media) scoffed at them.
- RichardRoma


The difference is, they didn't have a player like Eichel on their team then. You can't really compare the QB to a position in hockey but both Allen and Eichel are the faces of their franchises and all stars in the league. I can't see them handline Allen the way Adams is handling Eichel
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
I dont think there would be any way to read a Quinn hiring as anything other than placating Jack. Playing hardball with Eichel's neckbones tells me that Eichel's desires are secondary to Adams's plans
- Hank Balling


Eichel appears, based on reports, that he has his set way of wanting to go forward with his injury, regardless of what his and the team doctors are preaching. It's hardball and there's little reason to believe that he wants to be here anymore, and that lies upon Terry, Kim and all of their poor hires.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:11 PM ET
Is Beane a puppet?
- RichardRoma


Beane had experience in his role and came in and told the Pegula's leave the football decisions to us.

Adams had very little experience and worked for the Sabres as a scapegoat. He fell on his sword for the jersey and anniversary stuff then got named GM after MANY reports said the Pegula's wanted someone they could "trust"

Haven't heard one thing about the Pegula's getting in the way of signing or keeping a Bills player. Can't say the same about the Sabres
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 9 @ 1:11 PM ET
Eichel appears, based on reports, that he has his set way of wanting to go forward with his injury, regardless of what his and the team doctors are preaching. It's hardball and there's little reason to believe that he wants to be here anymore, and that lies upon Terry, Kim and all of their poor hires.
- TheSabresTaco


I wonder, would it be possible for season ticket holders to sue the Pegulas, or bring them before some sort of tribunal (think testifying before Congress), because of how bad the team has been for the last 10 years?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 9 @ 1:11 PM ET
No, I'm not. I haven't watched a full Sabres game in over 2 years and haven't been to a game in almost 3 years (home win vs. Montreal, during that 10-game win streak).

Since they're so bad, I don't watch them. No one is FORCING me to watch their games or follow any news coverage about them. I was simply remarking to Batman on the fact that, saying you're "stuck" with this team is a preposterous statement, given that there are 31 other options available to you.

- RichardRoma


So you attack other fans of the team while admitting you have abandoned them.
Got it.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
Eichel appears, based on reports, that he has his set way of wanting to go forward with his injury, regardless of what his and the team doctors are preaching. It's hardball and there's little reason to believe that he wants to be here anymore, and that lies upon Terry, Kim and all of their poor hires.
- TheSabresTaco


It would be fascinating if Eichel went ahead with the surgery against their wishes and dared the Sabres to void his contract
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
Beane had experience in his role and came in and told the Pegula's leave the football decisions to us.

Adams had very little experience and worked for the Sabres as a scapegoat. He fell on his sword for the jersey and anniversary stuff then got named GM after MANY reports said the Pegula's wanted someone they could "trust"

Haven't heard one thing about the Pegula's getting in the way of signing or keeping a Bills player. Can't say the same about the Sabres

- bluengold12


So, the solution is: they need to sell the Sabres and just stick with the Bills?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
It is if they hire Quinn, and the whole world knows it
- Powerslave


Pretending that Quinn is somehow better than BBQ, Granato et al is a complete farce. Hiring him gives you a completely false sense of security that Eichel will somehow be happy to play here just because you hired his college HC.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
they need to just get it over with so we can all move on to hot takes on trading Sam
- SabresFaninIndiana

Probably will get done closer to the draft
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
Beane had experience in his role and came in and told the Pegula's leave the football decisions to us.

Adams had very little experience and worked for the Sabres as a scapegoat. He fell on his sword for the jersey and anniversary stuff then got named GM after MANY reports said the Pegula's wanted someone they could "trust"

Haven't heard one thing about the Pegula's getting in the way of signing or keeping a Bills player. Can't say the same about the Sabres

- bluengold12


Beane manages the Pegulas better. There's no question there.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
I wonder, would it be possible for season ticket holders to sue the Pegulas, or bring them before some sort of tribunal (think testifying before Congress), because of how bad the team has been for the last 10 years?
- RichardRoma


you say a lot of weird poop. But you know that.
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 9 @ 1:15 PM ET
you say a lot of weird poop. But you know that.
- TheSabresTaco

It's a simple question. Yes, or no, is this possible?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
Pretending that Quinn is somehow better than BBQ, Granato et al is a complete farce. Hiring him gives you a completely false sense of security that Eichel will somehow be happy to play here just because you hired his college HC.
- TheSabresTaco



And they can spin it any way they want. The entire hockey universe would see right through it. If he was somehow just killing it as a coach, fine. But he's mediocre at best.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
It would be fascinating if Eichel went ahead with the surgery against their wishes and dared the Sabres to void his contract
- Hank Balling


They wouldn't. They'd suspend him indefinitely and maybe trade him in a few years. Have fun, Jack
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
Pretending that Quinn is somehow better than BBQ, Granato et al is a complete farce. Hiring him gives you a completely false sense of security that Eichel will somehow be happy to play here just because you hired his college HC.
- TheSabresTaco


It's the Sabres. Hiring Quinn and still losing Eichel is a definite possibility here.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
It's a simple question. Yes, or no, is this possible?
- RichardRoma

No.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
It's a simple question. Yes, or no, is this possible?
- RichardRoma


Remember the very meek "fan protest" a few years ago? That's probably what you'd get. The fans are worse about it they're just starting not to care.
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
No.
- TheSabresTaco

Thank you.

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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
It's the Sabres. Hiring Quinn and still losing Eichel is a definite possibility here.
- Lunaion


They already know what to do with Jack. The next coach should know he's gone. The questions Kevyn and Jason should be asking is, based upon some of these offers for a Jack return, how are you going to guide these players to the playoffs?
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