Abadseed
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Location: Arlington hts, IL Joined: 01.20.2014
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Please dear Lord, yes!
Please let it be done.
If you watched the whole Isles broadcast on NBCSN, now THAT was a classy move by the Isles and their fans -- singer starts the anthem and then shuts up until the very end -- she let the crowd take it away.
Given a full stadium for a clinching game, that was really exciting.
Bring back the Mes-man! - savvyone-1
Pretty sure that ship when hen when he became part of the wolves organIzation |
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savvyone-1
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Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL Joined: 03.04.2011
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Pretty sure that ship sailed when he became part of the wolves organIzation - Abadseed
You are probably right. But one can dream right?
Would love the BH organIzation to launch Cornhole into the sun (I am very tired of his pompous ass routine and bloviating singing style -- Jim: the anthem isn't about YOU!).
Wayne is a really decent guy and (obviously) has a terrific set of pipes, even after being shot. Had the occasion to meet and support him at a concert where he was one of the guest singers. Nicest guy, very humble.
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Theo Fox
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imo opinion and most likely seeing that jake debrusk is going to be moved what would a hockey trade look like that benefits the hawks and boston. Case is another player from boston mentioned by exlund. If the hawks be willing to take john moore's contract in the deal. Hawks need a power forward and yes this debrusk was not very good but i would inquire at least. - Scott1977
I would have to agree with powerenforcer that if the Hawks have interest in DeBrusk, then similar salary may have to go back to Boston in exchange. The rights to Zadorov would fit that bill. Whether such a trade is realistic or amenable by either side is a different story.
Why DeBrusk? Bowman does like his former 1st rounders and he does want to add some experience. DeBrusk is young so not sure if he is the type of experience Bowman wants.
Maybe experience means skill set or playing style instead, i.e. power forward? If that's the case, then DeBrusk checks many boxes. Yet, has he plateaued and even started to regress?
Can you imagine having three consecutive 1st rounders like the Bruins did with DeBrusk, Senyshyn, and Zboril and they all fell short of expectations? Hurts even more when you see who was drafted after them, i.e. Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Boeser, and Konecny.
Not that the Hawks have a stellar track record with their own 1st rounders. Some good ones but many misses, too. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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I'm not really going out on a limb here considering the experience, but I would expect that Borgstrom will impress more than Reichel this upcoming year. - Chunk
I could see that at least for this next season or two. In the long run, I could see Reichel being the more well-rounded player who brings value in more situations and roles.
To put it another way, Borgstrom could be the more offensively productive forward but Reichel is more versatile and relied upon at ES, PP, and PK.
Reichel may not play much PK now but his skill set does make him ripe for such a role with his speed, ability to snuff out pucks, fearlessness to play in tough areas, and willingness to take a hit yet be resilient to keep on trucking. |
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Scott1977
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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I would have to agree with powerenforcer that if the Hawks have interest in DeBrusk, then similar salary may have to go back to Boston in exchange. The rights to Zadorov would fit that bill. Whether such a trade is realistic or amenable by either side is a different story.
Why DeBrusk? Bowman does like his former 1st rounders and he does want to add some experience. DeBrusk is young so not sure if he is the type of experience Bowman wants.
Maybe experience means skill set or playing style instead, i.e. power forward? If that's the case, then DeBrusk checks many boxes. Yet, has he plateaued and even started to regress?
Can you imagine having three consecutive 1st rounders like the Bruins did with DeBrusk, Senyshyn, and Zboril and they all fell short of expectations? Hurts even more when you see who was drafted after them, i.e. Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Boeser, and Konecny.
Not that the Hawks have a stellar track record with their own 1st rounders. Some good ones but many misses, too. - Theo Fox
Any other names that come to mine theo that fit that power forward type that the hawks should be looking for that could be available whether through a trade or free agency. I mention debrusk because i think he be good fit and fits that age group 24. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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I would have to agree with powerenforcer that if the Hawks have interest in DeBrusk, then similar salary may have to go back to Boston in exchange. The rights to Zadorov would fit that bill. Whether such a trade is realistic or amenable by either side is a different story.
Why DeBrusk? Bowman does like his former 1st rounders and he does want to add some experience. DeBrusk is young so not sure if he is the type of experience Bowman wants.
Maybe experience means skill set or playing style instead, i.e. power forward? If that's the case, then DeBrusk checks many boxes. Yet, has he plateaued and even started to regress?
Can you imagine having three consecutive 1st rounders like the Bruins did with DeBrusk, Senyshyn, and Zboril and they all fell short of expectations? Hurts even more when you see who was drafted after them, i.e. Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Boeser, and Konecny.
Not that the Hawks have a stellar track record with their own 1st rounders. Some good ones but many misses, too. - Theo Fox
Only one 1st rounder taken by Bowman is not playing in the NHL. McNeill. Jury is still out on Beaudin but he did make it to the NHL.
Considering the slot the Hawks were drafting, Its a better record than most think. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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In what world is Debrusk a power forward? He isn't. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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That's the route I'd go too. After trading for and signing both Stillman and Borgstrom, I see them being protected. You can only lose one and I don't view losing either Z or Strome as a big loss.
It'd be better to get something for them in trade but either way. I feel Gaudette could be a pretty good player for us too. It sounds like the issues he was dealing with health wise weren't pleasant and with that behind him I'd like to see him back in Chicago next season. - HawkintheD
The reality is who really cares what is lost in the expansion draft. I can't even come up with 7 forwards I care enough to protect. |
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Scott1977
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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The reality is who really cares what is lost in the expansion draft. I can't even come up with 7 forwards I care enough to protect. - Elbows15
I know you don't like debrusk so lets for get about debrusk who would fit that bill of power forward imo hawks are lacking trade route or free agency? |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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I know you don't like debrusk so lets for get about debrusk who would fit that bill of power forward imo hawks are lacking trade route or free agency? - Scott1977
Al Secord. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Only one 1st rounder taken by Bowman is not playing in the NHL. McNeill. Jury is still out on Beaudin but he did make it to the NHL.
Considering the slot the Hawks were drafting, Its a better record than most think. - Elbows15
That's true about Bowman's track record. Although I didn't specify in the post, I was thinking of a longer timeline including past GMs (Tallon, Smith, Pulford, etc). |
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NamedSources
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Location: The Unnamed Joined: 06.05.2019
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Al Secord. - mohel
I look at a Zadorov for Debrusk trade as a positive.
Zadorov is not worth the money he wants and clogs up opportunity for young developing defensemen.
Debrusk is signed for one more year...his contract is not bad...fills a need plus if he performs and the Hawks are not in the playoff picture around the deadline you can flip him for more assets. Win win.... |
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Theo Fox
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In what world is Debrusk a power forward? He isn't. - Elbows15
Power forward was not the right term to use to describe him. He does play more of a gritty style than a finesse style and is willing to crash and bang for someone his size. Gets after pucks, goes to the tough areas, plays physical. |
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rpeters01
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Only one 1st rounder taken by Bowman is not playing in the NHL. McNeill. Jury is still out on Beaudin but he did make it to the NHL.
Considering the slot the Hawks were drafting, Its a better record than most think. - Elbows15
Agreed and Boston could not have been drafting any higher?
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rpeters01
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The reality is who really cares what is lost in the expansion draft. I can't even come up with 7 forwards I care enough to protect. - Elbows15
That's pretty much what Stan said. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Power forward was not the right term to use to describe him. He does play more of a gritty style than a finesse style and is willing to crash and bang for someone his size. Gets after pucks, goes to the tough areas, plays physical. - Theo Fox
The Hawks have about eight guys like this now, don't they? At some point the Hawks need to find bonafide, top six talent. There is a chance that some of their young guys have this capability (Reichel, Borgstrom, etc), but we'll have to wait until they get on the ice. |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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I look at a Zadorov for Debrusk trade as a positive.
Zadorov is not worth the money he wants and clogs up opportunity for young developing defensemen.
Debrusk is signed for one more year...his contract is not bad...fills a need plus if he performs and the Hawks are not in the playoff picture around the deadline you can flip him for more assets. Win win.... - NamedSources
I don't mind it, either. I do wonder if it is a good idea to get rid of the veteran defensemen all at once - I'd rather not push the kids into the toughest matchups unless they are ready.
I think signing some vets as trade fodder is certainly a good use of resources. So is trading for a crap contract, even with another year to go. They need lots of lottery tickets. I don't know who those guys are - I don't know enough of the players, especially prospects, to make more than a guess. I'll have to trust Stan there. |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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The Hawks have about eight guys like this now, don't they? At some point the Hawks need to find bonafide, top six talent. There is a chance that some of their young guys have this capability (Reichel, Borgstrom, etc), but we'll have to wait until they get on the ice. - Chunk
You're singing my favourite song, Chunk. Having high end talent wins. You need depth, no doubt; but without excellent players mixed in, you're watching the later rounds of the playoffs from home. |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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The reality is who really cares what is lost in the expansion draft. I can't even come up with 7 forwards I care enough to protect. - Elbows15
My bad. I only named two players you'd like to launch into the sun vs all of them. |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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My bad. I only named two players you'd like to launch into the sun vs all of them. - HawkintheD
Naming them all would result in a very lengthy post, and some get cranky about those. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Power forward was not the right term to use to describe him. He does play more of a gritty style than a finesse style and is willing to crash and bang for someone his size. Gets after pucks, goes to the tough areas, plays physical. - Theo Fox He actually doesn't do the things you mentioned and is a huge reason why he was a healthy scratch a few times this season including in the playoffs. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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You're singing my favourite song, Chunk. Having high end talent wins. You need depth, no doubt; but without excellent players mixed in, you're watching the later rounds of the playoffs from home. - mohel
The problem that they are going to run into is that they have so many young guys that are all coming in at the same time. It can make it difficult to determine which guys are going to be real difference makers as they are not "fully formed" yet. I like that they have started to accumulate as many big body lottery tickets as possible to try and build that part of their team as well. Hardman, Gaudette, Slavin, Entwistle, C. Morrison, are all guys that can hopefully turn into those big forechecking types that all teams need.
It will be interesting to see who they leave unprotected and try to trade. I would venture to guess that Nylander (unless he shows marked improvement), Strome, Hino would be on their way out in short order if I am reading the tea leaves properly. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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My bad. I only named two players you'd like to launch into the sun vs all of them. - HawkintheD
You missed the point. Anyone eligible to get plucked has a replacement already in the system for the most part. Most of the guys I want to keep are exempt.
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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He actually doesn't do the things you mentioned and is a huge reason why he was a healthy scratch a few times this season including in the playoffs. - Elbows15
His first two years he actually did play that way. The last two, you are correct, have been less than stellar. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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That's true about Bowman's track record. Although I didn't specify in the post, I was thinking of a longer timeline including past GMs (Tallon, Smith, Pulford, etc). - Theo Fox
Why relive misery? lol. What other GMs did irrelevant anyway. Bowman and Kelley have a different set of criteria for drafting. |
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