Ek reporting Jones is not signing any extensions with any teams that trade for him. This means he either plays out his contract in Columbus and most likely walks, or he becomes nothing more than a pure rental and his price drops dramatically. Either way, its time for the Flyers to move onto another plan for this upcoming season. I think this is better for the Flyers anyway, not a fan of Jones and becoming less and less of fan as these reports mount.
- jd250

I don't see how Jones wanting to exercise his right to go to free agency should change an opinion on how good of a player he is. I'm not sure why you're not a fan of high echelon defenseman like Jones and Hamilton but rave about second tier defenseman like Ekholm.

MAF never fails to entertain

Sorry to hear about Rene Robert suffering a heart attack down here in SW Fl. They don’t make lines like the French Connection anymore.

He moved down so he could pick up an early 2nd round pick and still get one on the 2-3 players they were looking at for round one.
- bmeltzer

Question Bill. Rubstov and Laberge were the targets?

If things pan out as analysts say, they did do well with Hart and Allison in the 2nd round. As it stands as of today, Chi won the trade between Phi, WPG, and CHI with Debrincat.

Question Bill. Rubstov and Laberge were the targets?

If things pan out as analysts say, they did do well with Hart and Allison in the 2nd round. As it stands as of today, Chi won the trade between Phi, WPG, and CHI with Debrincat.
- corduroy

Hexy was trying to add as many picks and assets as he could at the time. They traded down to acquire more picks and they were gonna take ruby and still got him. Hexy said he was confident ruby would still be there. I wanted bellows instead of trading down. Not that he’s lit it up

Hexy was trying to add as many picks and assets as he could at the time. They traded down to acquire more picks and they were gonna take ruby and still got him. Hexy said he was confident ruby would still be there. I wanted bellows instead of trading down. Not that he’s lit it up
- Stayin alive

Had no idea that Bill needed 100's of accounts.

Thanks Bill!

Damn. Price 1 game under .920save %…loss

2 games above .920 save % both wins.

Swami halfway home to giving you that habs win and how pt21

He moved down so he could pick up an early 2nd round pick and still get one on the 2-3 players they were looking at for round one.
- bmeltzer

Best part of that draft (in Buffalo) was I told my brother no way Buffalo doesn’t take a dman at 8 there were still 3 highly rated d left ( sergachev mccavoy chychrun) and with the 8th pick bumbalo selects….. forward Alex Nylander. Was laughing so hard at Murray and my brother. He’s still pissed at that pick

Imagine 3.5M a year for what was considered top tier D-men
- corduroy

Oh, I remember the burden than was Mike Rathje. He became a running gag among my friends and I.

LoL Caufield! Another flyer if the goon flyers scouts had nolage for offensive talent.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

We still gotta see if York pans. Defensemen can take a tick longer to mature their game.


But yeah, I was pretty hot under the collar when they passed on him. More than once.

Lotta people here were pissed.

Lot of people here were pissed about Olli Maata, Sanguinetti and Chet Pickard too.

That sucks about Jones.

We clearly cannot risk him walking, time to move on.

I don't see how Jones wanting to exercise his right to go to free agency should change an opinion on how good of a player he is. I'm not sure why you're not a fan of high echelon defenseman like Jones and Hamilton but rave about second tier defenseman like Ekholm.
- MJL

I don't begrudge anyone from wanting to cash in, but it does tell you a bit at least about what is the most important thing to Jones, doesn't it? Its not that I don't think Hamilton or Jones are good players, its that I don't believe it makes sense for the Flyers to hand over the farm and a boatload of money to obtain either one. You of all people have posted time and time again that the Flyers should not panic, the Flyers should not go back to the old days of making the biggest splash in free agency, but they need to be smart, patient, draft well and develop. Well, I am agreeing with you for the most part in this instance. I don't want the Flyers to throw tons of cap space and potentially good assets at one player and somehow think everything will turn around. It won't! It won't! This Flyers team has multiple holes that need to be filled; they lack top end defensemen (note plural here), they lack speed, they lack skill, they lack grit and toughness, they lack leadership, they have an aging core, they have no backup goalie, and right now even if JVR is taken in the ED, they lack significant cap space. Thus I want the Flyers to make smart moves, bring in toughness, speed, character and leadership, and continue to draft well and develop. That to me is the only way out of this.

Damn. Price 1 game under .920save %…loss

2 games above .920 save % both wins.

Swami halfway home to giving you that habs win and how pt21
- Stayin alive

Price doing what Roy did 3 decades ago, single handedly winning these games for the Habs.

I don't begrudge anyone from wanting to cash in, but it does tell you a bit at least about what is the most important thing to Jones, doesn't it? Its not that I don't think Hamilton or Jones are good players, its that I don't believe it makes sense for the Flyers to hand over the farm and a boatload of money to obtain either one. You of all people have posted time and time again that the Flyers should not panic, the Flyers should not go back to the old days of making the biggest splash in free agency, but they need to be smart, patient, draft well and develop. Well, I am agreeing with you for the most part in this instance. I don't want the Flyers to throw tons of cap space and potentially good assets at one player and somehow think everything will turn around. It won't! It won't! This Flyers team has multiple holes that need to be filled; they lack top end defensemen (note plural here), they lack speed, they lack skill, they lack grit and toughness, they lack leadership, they have an aging core, they have no backup goalie, and right now even if JVR is taken in the ED, they lack significant cap space. Thus I want the Flyers to make smart moves, bring in toughness, speed, character and leadership, and continue to draft well and develop. That to me is the only way out of this.
- jd250

He doesn’t owe the jackets anything. Under the system he has the right to pick his next home. (If he reaches UFA). I’m surprised more guys don’t go this route….it could lead to more $ but probably has more to do with his preference to live and were he wants to be 8 months a year for the next 7 years. The guys going to get paid either way. Now, the price for him just dropped substantially. Is it smarter for the jacket’s to fish and cut bait or wait till the season or even the TDL next year? That’s up for debate. depends if the jackets think they have a reasonable chance to get him signed I guess…
As far as the rest of your comments, I agree. Fletch has to get creative and get something done…to do nothing and roll out last years lineup come October will probably result in yet another waisted year…..and that’s not acceptable.

That sucks about Jones.

We clearly cannot risk him walking, time to move on.
- DrMidnite

Or maybe the price dropped enough to roll the dice.

Or maybe the price dropped enough to roll the dice.
- landros 2

I’m really not understanding the Colorado rumor as the motivation for not signing an extension with a new team. There is no fit for Jones in Colorado. He needs to rethink that. Also the flat cap will still be there next year.

Playing for Columbus again this year….awkward.

Jakob Chychrun had a breakout year this past season and is still only 22 years old. Can't see Arizona moving on from him unless we blew them away. Maybe we should?
- jd250

I'm a little biased since I'm friendly with his dad and I've followed his progress since before he was in the NHL. Would love to have him in Philly, but it's probably unrealistic right now.

I don't begrudge anyone from wanting to cash in, but it does tell you a bit at least about what is the most important thing to Jones, doesn't it? Its not that I don't think Hamilton or Jones are good players, its that I don't believe it makes sense for the Flyers to hand over the farm and a boatload of money to obtain either one. You of all people have posted time and time again that the Flyers should not panic, the Flyers should not go back to the old days of making the biggest splash in free agency, but they need to be smart, patient, draft well and develop. Well, I am agreeing with you for the most part in this instance. I don't want the Flyers to throw tons of cap space and potentially good assets at one player and somehow think everything will turn around. It won't! It won't! This Flyers team has multiple holes that need to be filled; they lack top end defensemen (note plural here), they lack speed, they lack skill, they lack grit and toughness, they lack leadership, they have an aging core, they have no backup goalie, and right now even if JVR is taken in the ED, they lack significant cap space. Thus I want the Flyers to make smart moves, bring in toughness, speed, character and leadership, and continue to draft well and develop. That to me is the only way out of this.
- jd250

I think this is another situation that you've misread. On a number of levels. Jones decision if the reports are true on not being willing to re-sign is not based on money. He'll get top dollar wherever he signs. It's about choosing where he wants to play. Most likely this is about wanting to win and not about money. Speaking of character. It's likely that his agent leaked that he won't re-sign if he's trade. That IS a sign of character. Letting teams know that he won't re-sign so they know what they're getting into if they trade for him. He doesn't want to screw a team. He has earned that right.
As far as what I've posted. I've posted multiple times recently that the Flyers need to approach it in one of two ways. Either bring in a true game changer, which Jones and Hamilton are. Or go with short term veteran stop gap players. It's actually the players that you are advocating for such as the Saad's and Ekholm's of the hockey world that while they would certainly improve the team. How much will thy improve the team. The most likely result is that it will clog up the Flyers cap and hinder them in the future. If you're going to be a cap team. Be a cap team with top players making you a cap team. Not 2nd level players.

I’m really not understanding the Colorado rumor as the motivation for not signing an extension with a new team. There is no fit for Jones in Colorado. He needs to rethink that. Also the flat cap will still be there next year.

Playing for Columbus again this year….awkward.
- NC Flyers Fan

Why is there not a fit in Colorado? The Avs are in really good shape cap wise. They are likely to lose a defenseman in the ED.

I think this is another situation that you've misread. On a number of levels. Jones decision if the reports are true on not being willing to re-sign is not based on money. He'll get top dollar wherever he signs. It's about choosing where he wants to play. Most likely this is about wanting to win and not about money. Speaking of character. It's likely that his agent leaked that he won't re-sign if he's trade. That IS a sign of character. Letting teams know that he won't re-sign so they know what they're getting into if they trade for him. He has earned that right.
As far as what I've posted. I've posted multiple times recently that the Flyers need to approach it in one of two ways. Either bring in a true game changer, which Jones and Hamilton are. Or go with short term veteran stop gap players. It's actually the players that you are advocating for such as the Saad's and Ekholm's of the hockey world that while they would certainly improve the team. How much will thy improve the team. The most likely result is that it will clog up the Flyers cap and hinder them in the future. If you're going to be a cap team. Be a cap team with top players making you a cap team. Not 2nd level players.
- MJL

Can I also add don’t be a cap team with aging players that will become clog up contracts…. G Jake examples currently and surely coots will become halfway through big contract if we resign him.

Why is there not a fit in Colorado? The Avs are in really good shape cap wise. They are likely to lose a defenseman in the ED.
- MJL

They aren’t going to lose Makar. Do you think Jones gets on the top pairing over Makar? Do you think Sakic will pay 1st pairing salary to someone who slots on the second pairing? How many years would they sign in that situation?

So is his plan to take less money and less term to play a reduced role in Colorado. If so, okay.

They aren’t going to lose Makar. Do you think Jones gets on the top pairing over Makar? Do you think Sakic will pay 1st pairing salary to someone who slots on the second pairing? How many years would they sign in that situation?

So is his plan to take less money and less term to play a reduced role in Colorado. If so, okay.
- NC Flyers Fan

Do you recall when the Flyers had Timonen on one pairing and Pronger on another. I'm not sure why you think any of this. Why would he need to take less term and less money? I'll take two top pairings.

Aren't there two players on a top pairing? Do you recall when the Flyers had Timonen on one pairing and Pronger on another. I'm not sure why you think any of this. Why would he need to take less term and less money?
- MJL

Okay, super…he will be asked to play his off side (probably for the first time in his life) as well. Colorado’s cap isn’t as great as it looks in a few years down the road projection, but I guess we’ll see how they do with it. Right now, they have a lot of signings needed for next season.

Okay, super…he will be asked to play his off side (probably for the first time in his life) as well. Colorado’s cap isn’t as great as it looks in a few years down the road projection, but I guess we’ll see how they do with it. Right now, they have a lot of signings needed for next season.
- NC Flyers Fan

No he won't. Makar will play on one pairing and Jones on another. For a team with Cup aspirations, he is a perfect fit. They're 25M under the cap. Likely going to lose a 3-4M player in the ED.