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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
He is 24. And the "relax" schtick is ironic AF.
- mjones242

The steam that comes out of that guys ears is nuts, yes he needs too relax.

99% of Leafs fans need to relax.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
Sh!t gets serious at 24.
- Fakepartofme

Bust.

WSH should have traded Ovi at 24. The bum.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Sh!t gets serious at 24.
- Fakepartofme


Wait till you hit 68. It’s a high point of the day
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Rielly sucked aaaall season. All of it. Games 1-56.

But had a decent playoffs.

- UsernameUnknown

Did he though? This meme continues to amuse me as Muzzin and Brodie both looked as good or better than Rielly.

The Habs are also a low-event, counter-punching team that pounces on turnovers and converts. They aren't some high-octane offence, high chance team that sustains immense pressure in the offensive zone.

Offensively speaking, did he do much? Rielly had 1g2a in 7 games and 12 giveaways against a team that doesn't score a whole lot.

Rielly is a fine defensemen but I think the book on him becoming a legit stud #1 d-man has likely closed.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'm sorry, did I forget to ask you if I was allowed my opinion.
- bixll

Yes, lets get pissy about it and overreact.

LOL


However, it was recognized by many that the habs did a great job of shutting down AM and MM, price was awesome for sure....but the last 3 games those two had nowhere to go.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
It's quite simple. The Leafs just need to add Barclay Goodrow and Blake Coleman so that their top players can score at near historic paces and win the Cup!
- AdamFrench



Its like a key.

TB has the key and the Leafs need to pay 4 and 2 M cap hits to get it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
Did he though? This meme continues to amuse me as Muzzin and Brodie both looked as good or better than Rielly.

The Habs are also a low-event, counter-punching team that pounces on turnovers and converts. They aren't some high-octane offence, high chance team that sustains immense pressure in the offensive zone.

Offensively speaking, did he do much? Rielly had 1g2a in 7 games and 12 giveaways against a team that doesn't score a whole lot.

Rielly is a fine defensemen but I think the book on him becoming a legit stud #1 d-man has likely closed.

- mjones242


Good because the Leafs don't need a 10M d man.

Crazy enough the D they had last season produced very well at both ends of the ice. The need to add d is so 2 seasons ago.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
Its like a key.

TB has the key and the Leafs need to pay 4 and 2 M cap hits to get it.

- Santo_44


Wait till the Habs win. We’ll give Freddie a $10M contract.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
Did he though? This meme continues to amuse me as Muzzin and Brodie both looked as good or better than Rielly.

The Habs are also a low-event, counter-punching team that pounces on turnovers and converts. They aren't some high-octane offence, high chance team that sustains immense pressure in the offensive zone.

Offensively speaking, did he do much? Rielly had 1g2a in 7 games and 12 giveaways against a team that doesn't score a whole lot.

Rielly is a fine defensemen but I think the book on him becoming a legit stud #1 d-man has likely closed.

- mjones242

I think the book is closed on that as well. But I still believe he was ok for the most part in the playoffs. Honestly, I feel our d core did pretty damn well this year compared to what Ive seen the past 10.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
The steam that comes out of that guys ears is nuts, yes he needs too relax.

99% of Leafs fans need to relax.

- Santo_44


Your ability to diagnose someone's temperature over the interwebs is something else.

Could be making billions with those kinds of senses, yet you're sat on here determining who needs to relax and who doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
Wait till the Habs win. We’ll give Freddie a $10M contract.
- Canada Cup

Then we are back to "who do we move out for that contract?"



Or is always Mitch now?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 12:36 PM ET
Bust.

WSH should have traded Ovi at 24. The bum.

- Santo_44

Ovechkin has been an absolute playoff beast in all but one playoff run. He had 40pts (20 of them goals) in his first 28 playoff games.

You don't trade beasts who elevate their game when it counts.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
Ovechkin has been an absolute playoff beast in all but one playoff run. He had 40pts (20 of them goals) in his first 28 playoff games.

You don't trade beasts who elevate their game when it counts.

- mjones242


Don't waste your breath trying to reason with the kind of idiot who thinks comparing Marner to Ovechkin is a good idea.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
Ovechkin has been an absolute playoff beast in all but one playoff run. He had 40pts (20 of them goals) in his first 28 playoff games.

You don't trade beasts who elevate their game when it counts.

- mjones242

OV is an FA...offer him 10.9 per.

Actually, even at 35 OV is exactly what the leafs need.

Who was it that had Dubas number again?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
Wait till the Habs win. We’ll give Freddie a $10M contract.
- Canada Cup


They have a key as well.

Lets sign a power forward to a 6M contract and say it is why we won even though he gets like .10 PPG in the playoffs.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Your ability to diagnose someone's temperature over the interwebs is something else.

Could be making billions with those kinds of senses, yet you're sat on here determining who needs to relax and who doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

- joel878


Ok
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Good because the Leafs don't need a 10M d man.

Crazy enough the D they had last season produced very well at both ends of the ice. The need to add d is so 2 seasons ago.

- Santo_44

And the Leafs don't need a 10.9M winger.

Also, I'm sorry if I don't feel like 50+ games in the North Division is truly a litmus test of how capable this d-corps is.

And who is this mysterious 10M d-man you're alluding to? Dougie Hamilton? A guy who has never won a Cup, never won a Norris, and is a mercurial personality is going to command that much?

Nah. I doubt he gets any more than Alex Pietrangelo. I'm thinking maybe 8.5M.

And yeah, I'd rather have him at 8,5M than Rielly @ 7M~.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
And the Leafs don't need a 10.9M winger.

Also, I'm sorry if I don't feel like 50+ games in the North Division is truly a litmus test of how capable this d-corps is.

And who is this mysterious 10M d-man you're alluding to? Dougie Hamilton? A guy who has never won a Cup, never won a Norris, and is a mercurial personality is going to command that much?

Nah. I doubt he gets any more than Alex Pietrangelo. I'm thinking maybe 8.5M.

And yeah, I'd rather have him at 8,5M than Rielly @ 7M~.

- mjones242

Maybe ya, I wouldnt mind it either.
But with the cap, the leafs need the extra 1.5 elsewhere.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 22 @ 12:44 PM ET
Hardev Lad
@HardevLad
"Why was Marner stapled to Matthews?"

Well it was the only way Marner could convince anyone he was worth his contract. Why else would he demand to play with the best scorer in the world?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
Hardev Lad
@HardevLad
"Why was Marner stapled to Matthews?"

Well it was the only way Marner could convince anyone he was worth his contract. Why else would he demand to play with the best scorer in the world?

- Steven_Seagull

Umm, did we even know for sure "he demanded to play with Matthews", many reports have said that was false.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
Maybe ya, I wouldnt mind it either.
But with the cap, the leafs need the extra 1.5 elsewhere.

- Fakepartofme

Leafs can give Rielly Kessels cap hit next season plus an extra 500K on top of what he already makes.

think Dubas will use Krug as the comparison.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:46 PM ET
Hardev Lad
@HardevLad
"Why was Marner stapled to Matthews?"

Well it was the only way Marner could convince anyone he was worth his contract. Why else would he demand to play with the best scorer in the world?

- Steven_Seagull


He scored at the same pace without him.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think the book is closed on that as well. But I still believe he was ok for the most part in the playoffs. Honestly, I feel our d core did pretty damn well this year compared to what Ive seen the past 10.
- Fakepartofme

I'm thinking this year should have an asterisk on it when considering just how good the team performed during the regular season.

I'm not willing to bank on results from playing against a 6 team mediocre division.

There are a LOT of question marks that remain for the D corps going into next season:

- Is Holl lost to the expansion draft?
- Can Sandin and Liljegren step into regular NHL roles?
- Do you bring Bogo back?
- If you run with Rielly again, do you keep him as your PP QB or elevate Sandin?

I dunno. I really like Muzzin and Brodie but I think Rielly is overrated and I'm not especially confident our young guys can step up next season and not get pushed around / punished.

I think it's absurd to think the D corps is solid and we should only pay attention to adding to the forward group and another backup G (the latter of which is certainly a priority).
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
I'm thinking this year should have an asterisk on it when considering just how good the team performed during the regular season.

I'm not willing to bank on results from playing against a 6 team mediocre division.

There are a LOT of question marks that remain for the D corps going into next season:

- Is Holl lost to the expansion draft?
- Can Sandin and Liljegren step into regular NHL roles?
- Do you bring Bogo back?
- If you run with Rielly again, do you keep him as your PP QB or elevate Sandin?

I dunno. I really like Muzzin and Brodie but I think Rielly is overrated and I'm not especially confident our young guys can step up next season and not get pushed around / punished.

I think it's absurd to think the D corps is solid and we should only pay attention to adding to the forward group and another backup G (the latter of which is certainly a priority).

- mjones242


They produced excellent results so I don't see a reason to change it.

Leafs fans complained for years about D getting results and they finally do and they still want to change it.

Take the names away, look at the stats and they did a great job.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
Don't waste your breath trying to reason with the kind of idiot who thinks comparing Marner to Ovechkin is a good idea.
- joel878

Relax, Joel.

Relax.

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