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Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jul 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
Your kid lives in CHAZ? Was he one of the cheerful citizens burning businesses and cop cars? Very nice place, I'm sure.

- Letterkenney


Chaz is down the street. Def not one of the hoodlums doing all the nonsense; he's totally corporate.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 21 @ 4:38 PM ET
Your kid lives in CHAZ? Was he one of the cheerful citizens burning businesses and cop cars? Very nice place, I'm sure.

- Letterkenney

Oh no not the cop cars
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
Everybody is in panic mood. Hence why none of us are NHL GM’s

Good lord. Just wait a couple weeks before the sky is falling. A bunch of chicken littles.

- peesinwind



Agree…let’s see what the next little while brings. Right now their team is not very good. They have a lot of cap space to change that at the expense of bailing out some other cash strapped teams.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
I can see a Tarasenko for Jake + significant sweetener move. But no major UFA signings.
- PT21


We shouldn’t have to sweeten anything on that deal. 3 surgeries, hasn’t played much in last two years, DOESNT WANNA BE THERE. They aren’t trading from a position of strength. I say 1 for 1
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
We shouldn’t have to sweeten anything on that deal. 3 surgeries, hasn’t played much in last two years, DOESNT WANNA BE THERE. They aren’t trading from a position of strength. I say 1 for sure
- black_francis



I agree to a point, but that extra year would come into play.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
I agree to a point, but that extra year would come into play.
- landros 2


Wouldn’t that be the trade off? Yeah they take an extra yeah of a healthier player and lose the injured player that wants out.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
odd that the Kraken only selected the 3 minimum required goalies - no deals there for 1B for any team
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 21 @ 4:45 PM ET
Wouldn’t that be the trade off? Yeah they take an extra yeah of a healthier player and lose the injured player that wants out.
- black_francis

That depends how badly they want to move him. It could come down to that. If Tarasenko flat out refuses to play for them they’re going to have to make an ugly trade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 4:50 PM ET
We'll know a lot more once the trade freeze lifts. Things will probably happen quickly. I'm glad the Flyers didn't lose a higher cap hit player. Keep them from getting into more trouble. Sign the RFA's and drop the puck. Ready to play. Doubt that will be the case, but that would be good with me.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 21 @ 4:53 PM ET
Wouldn’t that be the trade off? Yeah they take an extra yeah of a healthier player and lose the injured player that wants out.
- black_francis



The Islanders just lost a guy that makes a high dollar amount….other teams might be in a better position to acquire Taresenko….another words there may not be any “deals”. The 3rd year at the end of a 8 year deal….at 8.25…is a big number and won’t be ignored by any team trading for Jake.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 21 @ 4:53 PM ET
Reports said Fletcher and Jake both said they were ok if Jake plays for us this year…
- arichardson22


hahah, ok. I guess that settles that then
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 21 @ 4:54 PM ET
We'll know a lot more once the trade freeze lifts. Things will probably happen quickly. I'm glad the Flyers didn't lose a higher cap hit player. Keep them from getting into more trouble. Sign the RFA's and drop the puck. Ready to play. Doubt that will be the case, but that would be good with me.
- MJL

This roster is better than it was just 10 weeks ago. (+/- a back up goalie). Had we addressed Niskanen’s departure like this prior to last season, we would have had more success. Too many goals against. I’m not saying the product is finished, but we are closer to where we ended the prior season.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
We'll know a lot more once the trade freeze lifts. Things will probably happen quickly. I'm glad the Flyers didn't lose a higher cap hit player. Keep them from getting into more trouble. Sign the RFA's and drop the puck. Ready to play. Doubt that will be the case, but that would be good with me.
- MJL


id like 2 more changes Another D and forward. I'Ve said all along i think they need a culture change. 4-5 new starters would be a good start
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
Reports said Fletcher and Jake both said they were ok if Jake plays for us this year…
- arichardson22

Tell him pasta is 100% not allowed during the offseason and hope he decides to retire from the NHL
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:01 PM ET
id like 2 more changes Another D and forward. I'Ve said all along i think they need a culture change. 4-5 new starters would be a good start
- bradster


My idea of a culture change is going to take place with the growth of young players. I want to win. Don't care what the culture is when they do win.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 21 @ 5:06 PM ET
The Islanders just lost a guy that makes a high dollar amount….other teams might be in a better position to acquire Taresenko….another words there may not be any “deals”. The 3rd year at the end of a 8 year deal….at 8.25…is a big number and won’t be ignored by any team trading for Jake.
- landros 2


Tarasenko doesn't seem like a Lou kind of player. Too much risk there. Too much money.They could have just kept Lee there.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 21 @ 5:07 PM ET
Tell him pasta is 100% not allowed during the offseason and hope he decides to retire from the NHL
- Bayareaflyer


Wasn't pasta - pierogies. Not much pasta in the cuisine Jake grew up with likely.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
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Jul 21 @ 5:07 PM ET
id like 2 more changes Another D and forward. I'Ve said all along i think they need a culture change. 4-5 new starters would be a good start
- bradster



I still get the sense Fletch isn’t quite done yet. We will need another goalie for sure. I still think there’s a bit more, then just that.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 21 @ 5:08 PM ET
id like 2 more changes Another D and forward. I'Ve said all along i think they need a culture change. 4-5 new starters would be a good start
- bradster


If they suddenly raise the salary cap by $20M you might just have a chance.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jul 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
Robert Conrad was the best. He took it so seriously.
- Sinisalo4vr


Yes! I remember the one time I thought he was going to beat up Welcome Back Kotter.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
Tarasenko doesn't seem like a Lou kind of player. Too much risk there. Too much money.They could have just kept Lee there.
- PT21


Just kept Lee there? Anders Lee is signed through 25-26
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
If they suddenly raise the salary cap by $20M you might just have a chance.
- Tomahawk



I still think Ghost is movable….maybe even JVR if need be, but that might involve some retention.

Edit: I know that word “retention” isn’t a popular one…lol
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
I am wondering how Ellis will adapt to being on the ice with a bunch of forwards and a partner Dman who are on average significantly worse defensively than their counterparts in Nashville (except Couts for Johansen, ofc).

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 5:24 PM ET
I am wondering how Ellis will adapt to being on the ice with a bunch of forwards and a partner Dman who are on average significantly worse defensively than their counterparts in Nashville (except Couts for Johansen, ofc).
- PT21


Last year was an outlier. Can't ignore it but it's not a clear indication of this team. The season before, the Flyers were a significantly better defensive team than Nashville. Nashville in 18/19 had a GA/GP of 2.59. In 19/20 they had a 3.10 GA/GP. Varies from year to year.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 21 @ 5:28 PM ET
I still think Ghost is movable….maybe even JVR if need be, but that might involve some retention.

Edit: I know that word “retention” isn’t a popular one…lol

- landros 2

Would not be surprised to see TK moved for space / 2RD help
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