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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 21 @ 10:19 PM ET
How much can you pay a decent player that’ll make him want to join an expansion team filled with 80% ahl talent?
- jchst22


They actually have glut of middle six and depth offensive talent. They're missing a couple of top six forwards.

Their defense currently includes Gio, Oleksiak, Larsson and Dunn.

I'm not saying this is a sexy lineup, but they're far from a team being filled with 80% AHL talent.

$28M is enough to add Landeskog, Hamilton and more.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 21 @ 10:21 PM ET
I hope we move Zucker and Pettersson. I wouldn't mind being players in FA. Granlund, Tatar, Coleman and Palmieri. They all could be solid FA pickups.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 10:25 PM ET
Agreed. If Seattle didnt take Zucker for free, I think that tells us a bit about his value around the league.

And I'm fine keeping Zucker. Hopefully he stays healthy and plays well with Carter.

Right now, here are my lines:

Jake-Crosby-Rust
Zucker-Carter-_____
_____-Blueger-Kapanen
ZAR-Gaudreau-AHL guy/cheap UFA

I think we need to find a good 2nd line RWer. I like Kapanen on the 3rd line. If we move Pettersson, we should have the money to find some nice targets for 2nd/3rd line holes.

- SuperHenderson13



I think 3rd and 4th lines need to be filled by baby pens on the cheap. Upgrades need to be top 6 and a nasty Dman.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 21 @ 10:26 PM ET
How much can you pay a decent player that’ll make him want to join an expansion team filled with 80% ahl talent?
- jchst22


I think UFA's will still go there if an offer is good. I was mostly talking about other teams wanting to dump pretty good players because of a cap squeeze. Like JVR for instance. No need to take him as your draft pick when Philly might cough up a pick or prospect to take him off their hands after the ED.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 21 @ 10:30 PM ET
I think 3rd and 4th lines need to be filled by baby pens on the cheap. Upgrades need to be top 6 and a nasty Dman.
- 10inchTerror


I agree with this.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:35 PM ET
I think 3rd and 4th lines need to be filled by baby pens on the cheap. Upgrades need to be top 6 and a nasty Dman.
- 10inchTerror

I like keeping bottom 6 spots open for a rotation of Wilkes barre guys. Seems like whoever gets called up is fine for a few games then burns out. Just keep them hungry and fighting for spots u til someone earns it
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:36 PM ET
Besides the cap space... the other big win for tonight is Jordan franking Eberle leaving the division. That guy killed us everytime we played them.

Did the Islanders really protect Clutterbuck and Martin over Eberle? Wow.

- SuperHenderson13

Yea I'm glad he's (frank)ing gone.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 21 @ 10:37 PM ET
How much can you pay a decent player that’ll make him want to join an expansion team filled with 80% ahl talent?
- jchst22

Ask Larsson and Oleksiak. They didn't even go to free agency and both would have had other offers.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:39 PM ET
They actually have glut of middle six and depth offensive talent. They're missing a couple of top six forwards.

Their defense currently includes Gio, Oleksiak, Larsson and Dunn.

I'm not saying this is a sexy lineup, but they're far from a team being filled with 80% AHL talent.

$28M is enough to add Landeskog, Hamilton and more.

- Rinosaur

Don't forget Hayden Fleury on D as well. Honestly McCann-Gourde-Eberle is a solid 2nd line.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:40 PM ET
I think 3rd and 4th lines need to be filled by baby pens on the cheap. Upgrades need to be top 6 and a nasty Dman.
- 10inchTerror

Yea we've never see this before...
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:43 PM ET
I think Seattle gets Palat off of Tampa. That'll be the start of their 1st line. They may even go at Tarasenko too. Probably try and sign Landeskog. They need the first line wingers to be really good because it doesn't seem like they are getting a first line center.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 10:45 PM ET
Yea we've never see this before...
- 668710


Gotta find the right ones. We one a cup with khunackl, Scott Wilson, and Ron hainsey, yeah there is no prospects but somebody gonna have to step up so money can go where it’s needed most. A crease crasher and a crease clearer. And maybe a goalie.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:46 PM ET
Ask Larsson and Oleksiak. They didn't even go to free agency and both would have had other offers.
- Tojo.


From the sounds of reports out there, multiple offers and slightly bigger in salary and term for both.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 10:46 PM ET
I think Seattle gets Palat off of Tampa. That'll be the start of their 1st line. They may even go at Tarasenko too. Probably try and sign Landeskog. They need the first line wingers to be really good because it doesn't seem like they are getting a first line center.
- 668710


Gourde also out 4 months with shoulder surgery lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:52 PM ET
Gourde also out 4 months with shoulder surgery lol
- 10inchTerror

Wow haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:53 PM ET
Gotta find the right ones. We one a cup with khunackl, Scott Wilson, and Ron hainsey, yeah there is no prospects but somebody gonna have to step up so money can go where it’s needed most. A crease crasher and a crease clearer. And maybe a goalie.
- 10inchTerror

I'd love to get Palat off Tampa.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 21 @ 11:00 PM ET
I think Seattle gets Palat off of Tampa. That'll be the start of their 1st line. They may even go at Tarasenko too. Probably try and sign Landeskog. They need the first line wingers to be really good because it doesn't seem like they are getting a first line center.
- 668710


I feel like they may take a shot at signing both Danault and Tatar.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 21 @ 11:03 PM ET
I'd love to get Palat off Tampa.
- 668710

Free up space so Tampa can sign Tatar. It’s a win win.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 11:14 PM ET
Free up space so Tampa can sign Tatar. It’s a win win.
- Feds91Stammer

That's circumventing
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 21 @ 11:19 PM ET
That's circumventing
- 668710


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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 11:40 PM ET
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- Rinosaur

Lol 🤣
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:40 PM ET
Dreger saying Hall and Boston are close to an agreement. 4 years at $6M/year. I would've signed Hall to that contract. Good deal and fit for both sides.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 21 @ 11:43 PM ET
Dreger saying Hall and Boston are close to an agreement. 4 years at $6M/year. I would've signed Hall to that contract. Good deal and fit for both sides.
- SuperHenderson13

He wasn't signing that deal anywhere other than Boston. Who had the first pick in the Taylor vs Tyler again? Was it Edmonton?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:43 AM ET
Penguins are one of the teams in discussions for Christian Dvorak.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:46 AM ET
So 1pm tomorrow trades will be announced. what are the chances that Carsen Twarynski is a penguin before the weekend??
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