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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:36 AM ET
Should they make a rule about it now? Like after the fact? Or is there a rule? No? Ya?
- pens4life-66


LOL... Dude.... Let it die.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:37 AM ET
2- if they pass on Yanni Gourde I’d be fucckin shocked. Tampa will have no problem getting great assets back for him
- pens4life-66


No doubt Gourde is good. But Foote is young, just breaking into the NHL as a big, RD. Those are also very valuable and he comes at a much cheaper rate. I just think they take him and circle back with Tampa seperately on any other trades.

Remember, Tampa needs to drop a ton of salary. They are $4M over the cap with 11 forwards, 5 D and 1 G signed... they likely need to drop two of Gourde, Johnson, Killorn with next to no salary coming back while not a lot of teams have cap space to absorb without sending salary back.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 21 @ 11:37 AM ET
But he guaranteed they would protect Tanev.
- j.boyd919

Like anyone really knows what the hell is going to happen. They probably should have tried to trade Tanev straight up for a younger less pricey Tanev if they were going to leave him exposed.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 21 @ 11:37 AM ET
LOL... Dude.... Let it die.
- madmike71


Hahaha sorry! Was to good to pass up I thought
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 21 @ 11:38 AM ET
The Pens are going to be like watching paint dry if the Kraken do in fact choose Tanev. No reason to protect Carter or Malkin. Those two spots could have been used for McCaan and Tanev. Then you have Carter, Malkin, Tanev and McCaan coming back next year. Looks like the new regime is just go along guys. I liked Rutherford better.
- Grinder47


Malkin has a full no trade clause, he would have to waive it!
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:38 AM ET
Seravalli now saying Dunn from STL. And McCann from Leafs is official. Dude…why even have the draft now? Finite amount of picks and the draft is 8 hours from now. Guess we don’t have to watch
- TheBrownListerine


Well I mean you could always not come around here or look at twitter until after this evening....
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
I'm a bit surprised by their goalie selections. I think they could have done better as a whole.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 21 @ 11:40 AM ET
Like anyone really knows what the hell is going to happen. They probably should have tried to trade Tanev straight up for a younger less pricey Tanev if they were going to leave him exposed.
- Grinder47


lolololol
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
Like anyone really knows what the hell is going to happen. They probably should have tried to trade Tanev straight up for a younger less pricey Tanev if they were going to leave him exposed.
- Grinder47



Why would the team with the less pricey younger Tanev do that?
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
SEA taking Gio, Larsson, Olekisak and Dunn. No way they take Petts.

I'd do the following trades:

Pettersson for Ritchie (Long pants player that will likely cost around McCann's cap hit)
Zucker for Austin Wagner (This is more of a dump while getting a physically capable player who is so so at hockey).

This gives the Pens the grit they want. Wanger is an OK player to replace Tanev at less than half the price. Frees up enough money to fill things out with a decent winger

- Rinosaur


I have been hoping they would select someone other than Pettersson and then trade us Giordano with half retained for him. But if they are taking Oleksiak and Dunn, I think Pettersson becomes unnecessary for them.

Maybe then Dallas or St Louis become options? Zucker & Pettersson for Tarasenko?Zucker & Pettersson for Benn with some retention?
TheBrownListerine
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Camp Hill, PA
Joined: 10.08.2020

Jul 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
Well I mean you could always not come around here or look at twitter until after this evening....
- MattStrat

You’re not wrong, Strat. But I shouldn’t have to avoid HB or Twitter because the picks are already rolling in. It’s the principle of the thing. Why not just have the entry draft remotely then? What’s stopping us from knowing now? Know what I mean?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 21 @ 11:43 AM ET
Pens might be able to unload Pettersson to DAL without taking salary back considering Oleksiak is gone.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
Pens might be able to unload Pettersson to DAL without taking salary back considering Oleksiak is gone.
- Rinosaur


Def think we could get a 4th from them.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
Def think we could get a 4th from them.
- 10inchTerror


More than a 4th
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
Malkin has a full no trade clause, he would have to waive it!
- stevens87


There was a theory going around that the Pens should have asked Malkin to waive in an effort to protect other players. Likely Seattle doesn't take Geno who is likely to miss at least half the season and coming off of significant surgery.

Isn't this what Price just did?

Anyway, the Pens seemingly had no interest in asking him. There was merit to the strategy.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
Pens might be able to unload Pettersson to DAL without taking salary back considering Oleksiak is gone.
- Rinosaur


And Seattle isn't taking Kahoken which likely means that they will take Soucy, another LD. Now they just need to take Zadorov and they will have the most beastly LD group ever assembled.

Sounds like it is confirmed that Seattle is taking Oleksiak, Gio, Dunn, with Soucy being likely also... I expect they will be looking to trade one of them right away.


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
Seattle is really being odd. Selecting... Carsen Twarynski from PHI? Who da fook is that jabroni?
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
There was a theory going around that the Pens should have asked Malkin to waive in an effort to protect other players. Likely Seattle doesn't take Geno who is likely to miss at least half the season and coming off of significant surgery.

Isn't this what Price just did?

Anyway, the Pens seemingly had no interest in asking him. There was merit to the strategy.

- madmike71


Malkin isn't Price. They would have taken Malkin 1000%. No doubt in my mind whatsoever. They would have brought him in for the season, thrown the C on his chest and resigned him for another 3-4 years. If the Pens asked him to waive, I think he would have no qualms about extending there.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
You’re not wrong, Strat. But I shouldn’t have to avoid HB or Twitter because the picks are already rolling in. It’s the principle of the thing. Why not just have the entry draft remotely then? What’s stopping us from knowing now? Know what I mean?
- TheBrownListerine


Yeah I do see that side of it....I dont even know why there would be so many leaks. At the very least you'd think the NHL would want as best viewer ratings as possible this eve...
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
More than a 4th
- Rinosaur


Lol I know no think petts could get a solid 2nd. I just remember trading a 4th for oleksiak then getting the same 4th back. Weird trades. I didn’t mind him at all.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
It is actually incredibly annoying that all of the deals are being leaked. I picked up a bunch of beer and was going to smoke some wings to watch it unfold live tonight. NHL really missed a huge opportunity on this one by not controlling things tightly enough.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
There was a theory going around that the Pens should have asked Malkin to waive in an effort to protect other players. Likely Seattle doesn't take Geno who is likely to miss at least half the season and coming off of significant surgery.

Isn't this what Price just did?

Anyway, the Pens seemingly had no interest in asking him. There was merit to the strategy.

- madmike71


But we don't know if they did and Malkin said no. We can speculate but don't know for sure. With Carter, one theory I heard was the reason he waived his no trade clause to come here is that he was promised he wouldn't be exposed. Probably never know if that is true but if it is, then Hexy had to do it or his word wouldn't be worth crap.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Yeah I do see that side of it....I dont even know why there would be so many leaks. At the very least you'd think the NHL would want as best view ratings as possible this eve...
- MattStrat


I think it’s probably scouts in the Kracken organization. They have their insiders that they are chummy with. Speaks to Francis. I guarantee a Lou run organization wouldn’t have so many loose lips
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Seattle is really being odd. Selecting... Carsen Twarynski from PHI? Who da fook is that jabroni?
- Rinosaur


Idk but I like it. Keep those big contracts of jvr and voracek in Philly
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 21 @ 11:53 AM ET
I think it’s probably scouts in the Kracken organization. They have their insiders that they are chummy with. Speaks to Francis. I guarantee a Lou run organization wouldn’t have so many loose lips
- TheGame316


Or hexy I imagine
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