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Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
Beau is one of the top forwards on this team. WTF is everyone in a hurry to trade the one guy who is 100 MPH every shift, goes into the corners, creates turnovers and scores big goals.
- niteislander


Nobody is in a rush but they also need a top 4 dman and if they lose out on a UFA they like they’ll have to trade to get one. So if they sign Landenskog or trade for Tarasenko then I wouldn’t be surprised if maybe they move him that’s all. Relax pal it’s Monday morning conversation for Christ sakes
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
So do the Isles despite your nonstop cap worries.
- niteislander

Why don't you give me a list of who (internal and external) you think they'll sign and for what number and how long and I will plug it into the Armchair GM thing on CapFriendly and see if it fits under the cap. Include trading for or trading away any players you want, as well as sending anyone (ie: Johnston) to the AHL to save money. Buyouts too, if you think they'll buy anyone out.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Nobody is in a rush but they also need a top 4 dman and if they lose out on a UFA they like they’ll have to trade to get one. So if they sign Landenskog or trade for Tarasenko then I wouldn’t be surprised if maybe they move him that’s all. Relax pal it’s Monday morning conversation for Christ sakes
- Isles

I just flagged this twice. Both times it was by accident. Incredible
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
I just flagged this twice. Both times it was by accident. Incredible
- Cptmjl


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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
Tony D still just sitting there waiting for Lou to call him
- niteislander


I've come around to your thinking on this. He'd come cheap and there's talent there to work with. I think Lou would set the expectations from the top, Trotz would reinforce that, and, if all else fails, I think the Isles' locker room is solid enough to not fall into ruin if he steps out of line.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
Those are not over paid players.. fyi. they would have gotten more on the open market. Lee is a 30 goal a year player that has scored 40 before and is everything to this team. Brock is a solid 2 way center that scored 25 a year and is HUGE in the playoffs shutting down guys like Crosby, perfection line and holding the Bolts off the scoreboard.

Boychuk is LTIR and when he signed that deal he was the begining of the turn around here... Leo is overpaid sure.. but not by a lot. There are MUCH worse teams with horrific contacts than the Isles who have 24 mill in cap space.

- niteislander


Anders Lee hasn't scored, or been on pace for 30 in quite some time (unless you count a brief 27 game stint this season). $6M for a 50 to 60 point player is overpaid.

I doubt they get more on the open market. Quite a bit of money on depth players.

Point really being though, hard to praise him for clearing cap space that he filled up with depth players.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:30 PM ET
He’s the fan of a team that hasn’t made it out of the first round in I’m not even sure how long and currently have 35 million annually tied up in three players.
- Cptmjl



yeah, Trotz has a long history of taking teams further than their roster really should go. top 5 coach in the league. top 3 even.

But he's only ever won a cup with several elite players.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
Anders Lee hasn't scored, or been on pace for 30 in quite some time (unless you count a brief 27 game stint this season). $6M for a 50 to 60 point player is overpaid.

I doubt they get more on the open market. Quite a bit of money on depth players.

Point really being though, hard to praise him for clearing cap space that he filled up with depth players.

- prock

Dude it’s time to move on. It’s going on 4 years now. I know you thought there would be multiple parades in Toronto by now instead of multiple 1st rd exits but it’s getting sad now. Spending the last 4 years consumed with an ex GM is just facking beyond weird
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
Why don't you give me a list of who (internal and external) you think they'll sign and for what number and how long and I will plug it into the Armchair GM thing on CapFriendly and see if it fits under the cap. Include trading for or trading away any players you want, as well as sending anyone (ie: Johnston) to the AHL to save money. Buyouts too, if you think they'll buy anyone out.
- eichiefs9


Or put more succinctly:

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:35 PM ET
Dude it’s time to move on. It’s going on 4 years now. I know you thought there would be multiple parades in Toronto by now instead of multiple 1st rd exits but it’s getting sad now. Spending the last 4 years consumed with an ex GM is just facking beyond weird
- Isles


The more he harps on Lou, the more analytical data Dubas leaves under his pillow.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
The more he harps on Lou, the more analytical data Dubas leaves under his pillow.
- Wildschwein

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just when you think they can’t embarrass themselves anymore
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
Anders Lee hasn't scored, or been on pace for 30 in quite some time (unless you count a brief 27 game stint this season). $6M for a 50 to 60 point player is overpaid.

I doubt they get more on the open market. Quite a bit of money on depth players.

Point really being though, hard to praise him for clearing cap space that he filled up with depth players.

- prock


He should just spend 1/2 the cap on 3 forwards that don't play defense.. that'll fix us.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:07 PM ET
Why don't you give me a list of who (internal and external) you think they'll sign and for what number and how long and I will plug it into the Armchair GM thing on CapFriendly and see if it fits under the cap. Include trading for or trading away any players you want, as well as sending anyone (ie: Johnston) to the AHL to save money. Buyouts too, if you think they'll buy anyone out.
- eichiefs9


pretty sure I did that numerous times already including on the last page.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
I agree that at the end of the day Pelech will get around 6-7 mill AAV. (he supposedly asked for $7)

I don't see any shot of Sorokin getting 5. He is an RFA that made 1 mill last year (although the signing bonus the year before to watch the playoffs was $1mill so he kinda made $2mill his first NHL season), and will continue to be a back up this year. I would be shocked if he got more than $3mill and expect him to be closer to a $2.5 mill like Giorgieve.

Casey asked for $5 mill AAV from Seattle so that is the High point.. my guess is he comes in around 3.5 -4.

Beau it depends on how long he signs for by my guess is 4-5 aav.

No clue what Palmieri is looking for but it sounds close to done.

- niteislander


Since Chief seemed to miss it..

Pelech 6.5 mill
Beau 4.5 mill
Casey 4 mill
Sorokin 3 mill

That's $18 mill ... we have $24 mill in space including boychuk.

if you give Palmieri 5 mill u still have at least 1 mill ...

how much you need me to make for a D-man? 5 mill? 6 mill? or 7 mill?

Hickey is 2.5 mill .. u can move him with a pick or buy him out to save 1.6 mill
Leo is 3 mill... same thing
Need more? waive Panik and/or Johnston that is 2 mill more.



niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
I've come around to your thinking on this. He'd come cheap and there's talent there to work with. I think Lou would set the expectations from the top, Trotz would reinforce that, and, if all else fails, I think the Isles' locker room is solid enough to not fall into ruin if he steps out of line.
- UIF


He would be hell bent too which is nice.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
He’s the fan of a team that hasn’t made it out of the first round in I’m not even sure how long and currently have 35 million annually tied up in three players.
- Cptmjl


over $40 mill in cap if you include Nylander..


I guess this is the only time of the year he can chirp though so have at it.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
over $40 mill in cap if you include Nylander..


I guess this is the only time of the year he can chirp though so have at it.

- niteislander


How great would it be if the Laffs didn't even make the playoffs this year. Or even better, the Habs take the last spot from them on the last day by 1 point.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
Since Chief seemed to miss it..

Pelech 6.5 mill
Beau 4.5 mill
Casey 4 mill
Sorokin 3 mill

That's $18 mill ... we have $24 mill in space including boychuk.

if you give Palmieri 5 mill u still have at least 1 mill ...

how much you need me to make for a D-man? 5 mill? 6 mill? or 7 mill?

Hickey is 2.5 mill .. u can move him with a pick or buy him out to save 1.6 mill
Leo is 3 mill... same thing
Need more? waive Panik and/or Johnston that is 2 mill more.

- niteislander

OK



There's your roster with everything you said. Johsnton/Panik buried in the AHL. Hickey bought out (he saves more money than Komarov) and Leo traded with Aho to Buffalo for a minimal return. Boychuk on LTIR.

Now how would they fit Tarasenko in with all that and only $3.3M in cap space? This roster also has no 7th D or 13th forward factored in.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
OK



There's your roster with everything you said. Johsnton/Panik buried in the AHL. Hickey bought out (he saves more money than Komarov) and Leo traded with Aho to Buffalo for a minimal return. Boychuk on LTIR.

Now how would they fit Tarasenko in with all that and only $3.3M in cap space? This roster also has no 7th D or 13th forward factored in.

- eichiefs9

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