First of all, Matthews was fine. It was Marner who sucked. This is not about one player. It’s a friggin team sport. you see Tampa play? THats a team. Up and down the lineup we cant match them. They are men and we are boys.

I dont care about other teams. Hiring a GM with no NHL experience was stupid. This is the Leafs. We are supposed to be the big franchise in the NHL.

How long are we going to give Dubas?
- Hockey_Reverend

it just happens TBs leading scorers in the playoffs were Kucherov, point, headman and stamkos..which strangely enough is their 4 highest players.

if Bergeron is any example, he took 10 seasons to reach the finals

First of all, Matthews was fine. It was Marner who sucked. This is not about one player. It’s a friggin team sport. you see Tampa play? THats a team. Up and down the lineup we cant match them. They are men and we are boys.

I dont care about other teams. Hiring a GM with no NHL experience was stupid. This is the Leafs. We are supposed to be the big franchise in the NHL.

How long are we going to give Dubas?
- Hockey_Reverend

First of all....no he wasnt. He was horrible the last 3 games.


There is no second of all....

Seattle acquired the following dmen:

Giordano
Larsson
Oleksiak
Dunn
Fleury
Fleury
Soucy
MacDermid
Cholowski
Bayreuther
Borgen
Lauzon

Which of these are we trading for?

One point of view. Another might be, bush league coaching as in
1) failure to match lines especially get Matthews away from Danault when he had home ice advantage.
2) failure to manage an effective power play despite being "loaded" with offensive talent.
3) failure to recognize that officials were not calling penalties and not motivating Team to take liberties with Habs better players as Habs certainly were doing.
4) not changing weak soft back pass "possession" game to drive the (frank)en net when the weak soft backpass possession game was cleary not working.
- winsix

the players and coaching cost the team.
the coaching was horrible, out coached at every opportunity.

First of all, Matthews was fine. It was Marner who sucked. This is not about one player. It’s a friggin team sport. you see Tampa play? THats a team. Up and down the lineup we cant match them. They are men and we are boys.

I dont care about other teams. Hiring a GM with no NHL experience was stupid. This is the Leafs. We are supposed to be the big franchise in the NHL.

How long are we going to give Dubas?
- Hockey_Reverend

I don't know how to break this to you...

But I have no control over who the Leafs' GM is.

Seattle acquired the following dmen:

Giordano
Larsson
Oleksiak
Dunn
Fleury
Fleury
Soucy
MacDermid
Cholowski
Bayreuther
Borgen
Lauzon

Which of these are we trading for?
- mr.sir

Dont need any of them...we have holl.

Seattle acquired the following dmen:

Giordano
Larsson
Oleksiak
Dunn
Fleury
Fleury
Soucy
MacDermid
Cholowski
Bayreuther
Borgen
Lauzon

Which of these are we trading for?
- mr.sir

Gio would be a nice deadline addition. Larsson and Oleksiak aren't going anywhere. I don't think the rest are any better than Holl/Sandin/Dermott.

Dont need any of them...we have holl.


- Fakepartofme

Soucy
Lauzon
MacDermid

Gio would be a nice deadline addition. Larsson and Oleksiak aren't going anywhere. I don't think the rest are any better than Holl/Sandin/Dermott.
- The Law

Soucy would be a decent Bogosian replacement.

Or Holl for that matter.

Soucy would be a decent Bogosian replacement.
- joel878

Agreed, but I think those types are out there as free agents so I wouldn't think they'd trade for one.

I hope they bring Bogo back and dangle Dermott for things.

I don't know how to break this to you...

But I have no control over who the Leafs' GM is.
- Leafs43

Then...

Agreed, but I think those types are out there as free agents so I wouldn't think they'd trade for one.

I hope they bring Bogo back and dangle Dermott for things.
- The Law

Hearing bogo didnt like the ontario covid rules....not sure of the validity of it.

Agreed, but I think those types are out there as free agents so I wouldn't think they'd trade for one.

I hope they bring Bogo back and dangle Dermott for things.
- The Law

Giraffe and a couple of tall trees for a pick

Then...


- Fakepartofme

I'm sorry if I have hurt you.

4.6m x 5 is too much for Oleksiak
4m x 4 is a great deal for Larsson

Hearing bogo didnt like the ontario covid rules....not sure of the validity of it.
- Fakepartofme

I hear 14 million people in Ontario didn't like the covid rules, so I'm gonna assume there's some validity to it. 😆

I can see him getting a decent raise somewhere else with some term. He's got no need to do the 1 year/1 mil show me thing again.

Agreed, but I think those types are out there as free agents so I wouldn't think they'd trade for one.

I hope they bring Bogo back and dangle Dermott for things.
- The Law

As Trump said, grab ‘Em by the Speedo and dangle

Good for Zach. He'll be loved for 2-3 years then despised for the next 4-5 and eventually bought out.
- The Law

Ya exactly. His style of play won’t last 8 years in the league at 5 million.

I don’t think I would’ve done 4 x5m if the leafs had the room. Love the player I just don’t think his body will hold up.

Again, outside of Kraken fans why would anyone watch that nonsense?
Plus I dont see many trades to be announced.
- Fakepartofme

I had it on TV. I thought it was fine. I was hoping the side deals they have would be announced. Theres a few apparently.

Hearing bogo didnt like the ontario covid rules....not sure of the validity of it.
- Fakepartofme

Has young kids, I don’t blame him.

Kids need to be kids again and until there is a plan for them he goes to the states.

I had it on TV. I thought it was fine. I was hoping the side deals they have would be announced. Theres a few apparently.
- Aaron_85

Wonder what changed from the Vegas draft, I remember those trades being announced during the show.

Anything longer than 4 years at 5m per, holland needs to be fired.
He's not worth anything over 4m per, but he's an FA and its edmonton
- Fakepartofme

Again...LTIR if needed after year 5


You don’t give term you don’t get the player.

🤷🏻‍♂️

The league always lets teams out of contracts.

Ya exactly. His style of play won’t last 8 years in the league at 5 million.

I don’t think I would’ve done 4 x5m if the leafs had the room. Love the player I just don’t think his body will hold up.
- bryant

You'd think he would have learned a lesson from his buddy mitch on signing contracts you can't live up to.

But money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I had it on TV. I thought it was fine. I was hoping the side deals they have would be announced. Theres a few apparently.
- Aaron_85

I have heard conflicting information on this.

Some (I think cap friendly) said there were no "side deals" when it comes to the expansion picks. For instance - apparently Carolina did not need to pay Seattle anything to choose Geekie over Bean - Seattle just did that on their own.

The other "side deals" would be the players flipped after being selected in the draft. So Giordano reportedly going to the NYR. Those deals will be released at 1:00 today.

I hope I'm wrong - because if Seattle made some of these picks with no sweeteners...

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Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
Can confirm the Edmonton #Oilers have both 7 and 8 year contracts agreed to with Zach Hyman. EDM and TOR are working to execute a sign & trade which will pay Hyman 8 yrs. at around $5M. Salary comes in higher in middle of contract and includes some no move protection. #Leafs

This is Lucic 2.0 and I refuse to think anything different.