I have heard conflicting information on this.

Some (I think cap friendly) said there were no "side deals" when it comes to the expansion picks. For instance - apparently Carolina did not need to pay Seattle anything to choose Geekie over Bean - Seattle just did that on their own.

The other "side deals" would be the players flipped after being selected in the draft. So Giordano reportedly going to the NYR. Those deals will be released at 1:00 today.

I hope I'm wrong - because if Seattle made some of these picks with no sweeteners...
- Leafs43

Yeah I think some of these picks are odd as it stands. I hope they have more deals ready.

I do like Larsson and Oleksiak deals.

I have heard conflicting information on this.

Some (I think cap friendly) said there were no "side deals" when it comes to the expansion picks. For instance - apparently Carolina did not need to pay Seattle anything to choose Geekie over Bean - Seattle just did that on their own.

The other "side deals" would be the players flipped after being selected in the draft. So Giordano reportedly going to the NYR. Those deals will be released at 1:00 today.

I hope I'm wrong - because if Seattle made some of these picks with no sweeteners...
- Leafs43

I find that strange as he was in Seattle and was up on stage as a new Kraken.

Toronto Maple Leafs
Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
Can confirm the Edmonton #Oilers have both 7 and 8 year contracts agreed to with Zach Hyman. EDM and TOR are working to execute a sign & trade which will pay Hyman 8 yrs. at around $5M. Salary comes in higher in middle of contract and includes some no move protection. #Leafs

This is Lucic 2.0 and I refuse to think anything different.
- Leafs43

Hyman is a 5M player today. 2-3 years no.

4-5 years absolutely not.

6-8 its quite possible he’s barely an NHL player.

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1418004619775647744

THIS

Dubas has made a few good moves. Brody is an example. But lots of ‘meh’ and poor asset management. I will never understand the Malgin trade for example...
- Hockey_Reverend

The only contract that Dubas handed out that was controversial and borderline stupid was Marner's. He's being paid about 2-2.5M more than he should be. Otherwise, there's not a bad contract to be found on the Leafs.

Also, Mason Marchment was never going to regularly play for this club. I think the organization is willing to give players a chance on other teams instead of burying them for years in the minors. Malgin is never going to be a regular on the Leafs but he did bring with him a helluva lot more experience.

Not a solid trade by any stretch of the imagination but not terrible either. Just much ado about nothing.

4.6m x 5 is too much for Oleksiak
4m x 4 is a great deal for Larsson
- mr.sir

I watched a lot of Edmonton games. Larsson is not that good. Just because he's right handed he's going to get a pay bump, but I mean I thought of him as around $3m. He's not dissimilar from Holl - he's better, but not significantly so. He's a better 5/6 who can slot up into the top-4 when required - but I found he was often outmatched in the top-4 role.

I think Dom at the Athletic rated him at $3.5m based on added value, so $4m is within the ballpark.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rtaub_/status/1418004619775647744
- mr.sir

Didn't this guy also call the Carolina Hurricanes the Carolina Panthers?

Dont need any of them...we have holl.


- Fakepartofme

A 2M unicorn.

Toronto Maple Leafs
Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
Can confirm the Edmonton #Oilers have both 7 and 8 year contracts agreed to with Zach Hyman. EDM and TOR are working to execute a sign & trade which will pay Hyman 8 yrs. at around $5M. Salary comes in higher in middle of contract and includes some no move protection. #Leafs

This is Lucic 2.0 and I refuse to think anything different.
- Leafs43

So what do the Leafs get as compensation for the sign-and-trade (if it happens)? A sweet, sweet 2023 7th rounder to replace the one we flipped to the Pens?

So what do the Leafs get as compensation for the sign-and-trade (if it happens)? A sweet, sweet 2023 7th rounder to replace the one we flipped to the Pens?
- mjones242

id guess a 2nd or 3rd

id guess a 2nd or 3rd
- Santo_44

Word is it would be a 6th.

He can go to Edmonton next week on a 7 year deal that has a higher AAV, or go now on an 8 year deal that has a lower AAV and we get a late pick.

There is no compelling reason for a decent pick to be involved.

Word is it would be a 6th.

He can go to Edmonton next week on a 7 year deal that has a higher AAV, or go now on an 8 year deal that has a lower AAV and we get a late pick.

There is no compelling reason for a decent pick to be involved.
- Monkeypunk

Then 7 years it is

id guess a 2nd or 3rd
- Santo_44

That would be a very nice return and bit of business by Dubas.

The only contract that Dubas handed out that was controversial and borderline stupid was Marner's. He's being paid about 2-2.5M more than he should be. Otherwise, there's not a bad contract to be found on the Leafs.

Also, Mason Marchment was never going to regularly play for this club. I think the organization is willing to give players a chance on other teams instead of burying them for years in the minors. Malgin is never going to be a regular on the Leafs but he did bring with him a helluva lot more experience.

Not a solid trade by any stretch of the imagination but not terrible either. Just much ado about nothing.
- mjones242

I think that's part of how they attract guys to sign with the Marlies - higher bucks, but also the understanding that the Leafs will help them advance their career, even if it isn't with the Leafs.

Having said all that, he's 26 years old and he's played 37 games in the NHL.

Is this really what Leafs fans are upset about?

Mason Franking Marchment?

Word is it would be a 6th.

He can go to Edmonton next week on a 7 year deal that has a higher AAV, or go now on an 8 year deal that has a lower AAV and we get a late pick.

There is no compelling reason for a decent pick to be involved.
- Monkeypunk

It would be amusing if that 6th was Pittsburgh's from this year. Gotta keep that Penguins connection going!

That would be a very nice return and bit of business by Dubas.
- mjones242

or benson and a late pick

I think that's part of how they attract guys to sign with the Marlies - higher bucks, but also the understanding that the Leafs will help them advance their career, even if it isn't with the Leafs.

Having said all that, he's 26 years old and he's played 37 games in the NHL.

Is this really what Leafs fans are upset about?

Mason Franking Marchment?
- Atomic Wedgie

What isn't this fanbase upset about?

https://mobile.twitter.com/rtaub_/status/1418004619775647744
- mr.sir

Anyone hosting that gong show last night, should not be trolling anyone.

Anyone hosting that gong show last night, should not be trolling anyone.


- .HOHO.

It kinda reminded me of a New Years Eve party - you go because you are told you will have fun, you pretend you are having fun, but you really just want to leave because you aren't having any fun.

So what do the Leafs get as compensation for the sign-and-trade (if it happens)? A sweet, sweet 2023 7th rounder to replace the one we flipped to the Pens?
- mjones242

a 2023rd 7th rd pick and Mikko Koskinen?

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger

A lot of talk about what the Oilers are going to pay Hyman in term and $. I believe 7 years is the target and could climb as high as $5.5 aav. We will see. However, as of this second there has been no discussion with Toronto on compensation.

9:21 AM · Jul 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger

A lot of talk about what the Oilers are going to pay Hyman in term and $. I believe 7 years is the target and could climb as high as $5.5 aav. We will see. However, as of this second there has been no discussion with Toronto on compensation.

9:21 AM · Jul 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
- Atomic Wedgie

well, that sucks.... How do we replace that 7th rd pick in 2023 now?

Word is it would be a 6th.

He can go to Edmonton next week on a 7 year deal that has a higher AAV, or go now on an 8 year deal that has a lower AAV and we get a late pick.

There is no compelling reason for a decent pick to be involved.
- Monkeypunk

I think people look at the 6th pick because they have two this year. Id ask for the 4th round pick if Holland wants that extra 400k in space.

id guess a 2nd or 3rd
- Santo_44

I would wager a larger guess on a 6th.

But hey - If Dubas can swing a 2nd out of it, I'm game.

I think that's part of how they attract guys to sign with the Marlies - higher bucks, but also the understanding that the Leafs will help them advance their career, even if it isn't with the Leafs.

Having said all that, he's 26 years old and he's played 37 games in the NHL.

Is this really what Leafs fans are upset about?

Mason Franking Marchment?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yeah they need someone insignificant to complain about.

Marchment was going to be a better Hyman. We gave up too soon.

Durzi and Grundstrom aren't really doing anything yet in LA either.