PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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We should totally trade Kerfoot for Hallander and a 6th. - mjones242
That is brilliant.. I wonder if Pittsburgh would go for it. |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I wonder how much more painful this coming year's first round exit will be. Or will I just be numb to it all?
Probably the latter. - mjones242
I now have a retirement project. I’m starting my new book. “Numb and Number: A Survival Guide for Leaf Fans |
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Two examples.
Vesey got a 3rd and Buffalo didnt sign him
Yandle got a 4th and 6th and Florida signed him
This is a sign and trade, its different and more valuable.
A 6th round pick would be a joke. - Santo_44
While I agree, when do things like this ever work out well for the Leafs? If be surprised if the Leafs didn't give them a 7th St this point |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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i dont know if this is good or bad, but over the last 3 seasons, Hyman scored 20% of this goals into an empty net |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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We should totally trade Kerfoot for Hallander and a 6th. - mjones242
Making the total cost of protecting Holl
Hollander
7th
McCann
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Kadri
Fire Dubas |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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The Oilers as a mess.
Mcdavid and Dri makes them a playoff team but they wont go anywhere with their roster. - Santo_44
I still don't understand the Keith trade. At all. It's like he wanted to make a trade with maximum pain. Surely, there were no other suitors for Keith's services -- especially at that price point.
It'd be nice to run that Canadian Division one more time. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Making the total cost of protecting Holl
Hollander
7th
McCann
Hallander
Kerfoot
Kadri
Another first round exit
Fire Dubas - Canada Cup
FTFY. |
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Making the total cost of protecting Holl
Hollander
7th
McCann
Hallander
Kerfoot
Kadri
Fire Dubas - Canada Cup
you better be being sarcastic |
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is that a sarcastic dude or a melon? |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I now have a retirement project. I’m starting my new book. “Numb and Number: A Survival Guide for Leaf Fans - Canada Cup
If Holl doesn't get any Norris votes for being the best 2M defender in the universe I will become comfortably numb. |
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Leafs43
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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i dont know if this is good or bad, but over the last 3 seasons, Hyman scored 20% of this goals into an empty net - senstroll
I would say that is good for Hyman and bad for the Oilers
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gergeswillems
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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most would, but is Holland really that lost? - PatC80
Holland knows his legacy is cemented. He's already in the HHOF. Anything he does now is gravy. He's been a horrible salary cap GM. The Cup he won in 2008 was mostly won by relics from the 2002 Cup team. Zetterberg and Datsyuk prolonged another decade of Cup contending. Neither player were expected to be Franchise players. Holland lucked into those 2.
But without Mike Ilitch's checkbook we'll never really know if Holland would've been a successful GM or not. I can remember him signing Pat Verbeek in the middle of the season for 3 mil because he needed a 3LW. I'm grateful for what Holland did as Red Wings GM.
But he REALLY really ran the Red Wings into the ground his last 7 years with horrible drafting, foolish UFA signings and no impactful trades. Yzerman is doing a great job cleaning his mess up. Kenny went to Edmonton because they have 2 stars who can smear alot of lipstick over a pig. It's easy.
The Oiler fanbase had no idea what they were getting with Holland. Red Wings fans knew but we were told we were just ripping him because he was no longer Red Wings GM. Heck Oilers fans were declaring him to be a hockey God after he made the Lucic for Neal trade. Huh?
Nothing Holland does surprises me. Pick the low hanging fruit and re-sign Mike Smith? Check. No impactful trades? Check. Overpay Hyman in UFA? Check. |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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you better be being sarcastic - twiztedmike
I’d have to be Olympic gold medal dumb and I didn’t even medal |
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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is that a sarcastic dude or a melon? - twiztedmike
honeydoo |
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gergeswillems
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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If Holl doesn't get any Norris votes for being the best 2M defender in the universe I will become comfortably numb. - mjones242
I'm now convinced Holl is the best Defenseman in the NHL. Way to go, Dubie! You just keep hitting home runs. 👍 |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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honeydoo - dmnted
They’re real and they’re spectacular |
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I still don't understand the Keith trade. At all. It's like he wanted to make a trade with maximum pain. Surely, there were no other suitors for Keith's services -- especially at that price point.
It'd be nice to run that Canadian Division one more time. - mjones242
I am convinced he is just trolling Mcdavid, he has a secret obsession of Gretsky and doesn't want anyone to steal his legacy. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Holland knows his legacy is cemented. He's already in the HHOF. Anything he does now is gravy. He's been a horrible salary cap GM. The Cup he won in 2008 was mostly won by relics from the 2002 Cup team. Zetterberg and Datsyuk prolonged another decade of Cup contending. Neither player were expected to be Franchise players. Holland lucked into those 2.
But without Mike Ilitch's checkbook we'll never really know if Holland would've been a successful GM or not. I can remember him signing Pat Verbeek in the middle of the season for 3 mil because he needed a 3LW. I'm grateful for what Holland did as Red Wings GM.
But he REALLY really ran the Red Wings into the ground his last 7 years with horrible drafting, foolish UFA signings and no impactful trades. Yzerman is doing a great job cleaning his mess up. Kenny went to Edmonton because they have 2 stars who can smear alot of lipstick over a pig. It's easy.
The Oiler fanbase had no idea what they were getting with Holland. Red Wings fans knew but we were told we were just ripping him because he was no longer Red Wings GM. Heck Oilers fans were declaring him to be a hockey God after he made the Lucic for Neal trade. Huh?
Nothing Holland does surprises me. Pick the low hanging fruit and re-sign Mike Smith? Check. No impactful trades? Check. Overpay Hyman in UFA? Check. - gergeswillems
That could work out for the Leafs, I hope.. Benson and a 5th for Hyman, done..
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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They’re real and they’re spectacular - Canada Cup
it was more a honey doo this type of melon |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I would say that is good for Hyman and bad for the Oilers - Leafs43
could end up a bad move if he is not getting prime time minutes with an AM type
thats a lot of goals with no goalie
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gergeswillems
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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could end up a bad move if he is not getting prime time minutes with an AM type
thats a lot of goals with no goalie - senstroll
I still think Kenny will sign UFA Freddy Andersen. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I'm now convinced Holl is the best Defenseman in the NHL. Way to go, Dubie! You just keep hitting home runs. 👍 - gergeswillems
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I am convinced he is just trolling Mcdavid, he has a secret obsession of Gretsky and doesn't want anyone to steal his legacy. - Santo_44
Looking forward to McJesus in blue and white in 26/27! |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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could end up a bad move if he is not getting prime time minutes with an AM type
thats a lot of goals with no goalie - senstroll
twitter is saying the 8th year depends on what the Leafs are looking for in terms of compensation.. If it's too high of an ask, the Oilers will wait until FA starts to sign him to a 7 yr deal |
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Leafs43
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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twitter is saying the 8th year depends on what the Leafs are looking for in terms of compensation.. If it's too high of an ask, the Oilers will wait until FA starts to sign him to a 7 yr deal - PatC80
Don't Ron Francis this Dubas.
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