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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
Lose Larsson, trade Caleb Jones, lose Klefbom for the season... Brought in the youthful Duncan Keith...

What could go wrong?

- PatC80


Signed a 40 year old goalie to a 2 year deal @ $2m / year.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Remind me again why any team wants Zach Hyman until he is 37?

This is franking madness.

- Atomic Wedgie

I'll give Zach 3 years. Then the wheels will start falling off. Leafs walking away was the smart thing to do. I hated when Detroit lost Marty Lapointe to UFA. But I also knew he wasn't worth 5 mil a season.

I don't blame Hyman for chasing the money. He's been underpaid his entire career. Why should he take a discount? It's not like Matthews, Nylander or Marner did.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Don't know how true it is, but read that Hyman would have accepted less what Edmonton is offering to stay in Toronto. Problem is, we still couldn't afford $5M per season on him
- PatC80

An equally big problem is he is not worth $5M.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
is 1:30pm yet?

those trade will be crazy

- dmnted

I highly doubt it
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
An equally big problem is he is not worth $5M.
- Atomic Wedgie



Yes, there is that too.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
That’s assuming Leafs were prepared to offer term
- Canada Cup


I have to be honest - I love Hyman, but I don't think I'd do more than 4 years - maybe 5 because he's put so much into his game - and no more than $5m - and would have preferred to keep it at $4.5.

If you're Zack Hyman, you take this offer from Edmonton all day every day. It's not about loyalty or anything either. How do you ignore that offer?
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Oilers and Zach Hyman Have a Deal. Will Toronto Match? Edmonton and Toronto are mastering in "miscalculations" today. The Oilers losing Larsson yesterday was a major blow on all levels to an organization that wants to continue to step forward. Edmonton will need to no find at least 2 top 4 D-men to do that now. Zach Hyman is still a great fit for the Oilers for sure, and Toronto allowed Hyman to test the market and talk to Edmonton. Hyman wants to play with his buds on the Leafs and the belief is he will give Toronto one last chance...however once a player feels appreciated, like Edmonton has made Hyman feel, things get dicey.
Source: Eklund

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
Sadly, the Macron tweet is fake.

Apparently it was said by an Italian journalist, and somebody reworked it.

Macron does not have any daughters.

"I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated," reads the translated quote, which was lifted off the Italian journalist's post.

"This time you stay at home, not us," the post reads.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
I have to be honest - I love Hyman, but I don't think I'd do more than 4 years - maybe 5 because he's put so much into his game - and no more than $5m - and would have preferred to keep it at $4.5.

If you're Zack Hyman, you take this offer from Edmonton all day every day. It's not about loyalty or anything either. How do you ignore that offer?

- Monkeypunk

I don't do a franking penny over $4M, and even that is too much. Give him $3.5M X 5 with a full NMC.

FFS, the guy makes $20M a year from video games - and that success is largely based upon his marketability as a Leafs player.

I really hope he enjoys Edmonton.

For the next seven years.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
5.5m per for hyman with a 7/8 year deal
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
James Mirtle
@mirtle
Leafs GM Kyle Dubas is meeting with the media at noon today.

We'll have coverage
@TheAthleticNHL
and a new
@LeafReport
following the press conference. Have questions for us?
11:24 AM · Jul 22, 2021·Twitter for Android
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
I think they should have resigned him last offseason of traded him then. Its the same way I feel about Reilly this offseason. The Leafs cant afford to lose players over and over. They got worse so far not better.
- Archaic


It completely depends on the situation. If you are in a strong playoff position, it’s crazy to unload an member of your team. If not, dump away. If there was a trade to get someone equally useful as Hyman the off-season prior, ok trade. Otherwise keep him for your run. It’s cheaper than bringing in Foligno which everybody loved.

The Leafs got full value out if their contract with Hyman.

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
I don't do a franking penny over $4M, and even that is too much. Give him $3.5M X 5 with a full NMC.

FFS, the guy makes $20M a year from video games - and that success is largely based upon his marketability as a Leafs player.

I really hope he enjoys Edmonton.

For the next seven years.

- Atomic Wedgie


Prorated, Hyman has scored 15, 24, 34 and 29 goals based on an 82 game season. Not many 30 goal scorers aren't worth more than $3.5M.

He's going to break down more and we all know it. He's on the wrong side of his peak, so the question is - where is his decline break?

But to think he's not worth $4.5m when he helped elevate every line he was placed on and gave the most honest and sincere effort on the team for the past 5 years is a bit unfair. He's just not worth it for more than 4 or 5 years!

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
I know thats way too much to pay Hyman, but it really sucks losing him like this. I thought maybe for once a player would choose to take a bit less money to stay. Seriously this happens with so many other teams, but never the Leafs. Frustrating.
- Archaic

The gm is a pushover.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
James Mirtle
@mirtle
Leafs GM Kyle Dubas is meeting with the media at noon today.

We'll have coverage
@TheAthleticNHL
and a new
@LeafReport
following the press conference. Have questions for us?
11:24 AM · Jul 22, 2021·Twitter for Android

- Atomic Wedgie

Why?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
I'll give Zach 3 years. Then the wheels will start falling off. Leafs walking away was the smart thing to do. I hated when Detroit lost Marty Lapointe to UFA. But I also knew he wasn't worth 5 mil a season.

I don't blame Hyman for chasing the money. He's been underpaid his entire career. Why should he take a discount? It's not like Matthews, Nylander or Marner did.

- gergeswillems



mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
Prorated, Hyman has scored 15, 24, 34 and 29 goals based on an 82 game season. Not many 30 goal scorers aren't worth more than $3.5M.

He's going to break down more and we all know it. He's on the wrong side of his peak, so the question is - where is his decline break?

But to think he's not worth $4.5m when he helped elevate every line he was placed on and gave the most honest and sincere effort on the team for the past 5 years is a bit unfair. He's just not worth it for more than 4 or 5 years!

- Monkeypunk

He'll be terrific on a line with McDavid and Draisaitl for a few years.

That term though.

That defence though.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
Why?
- Fakepartofme


They’re making Holl captain
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
Fire Dubas.
Keeping soft Willie and letting Hyman go.
What a joke.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
It completely depends on the situation. If you are in a strong playoff position, it’s crazy to unload an member of your team. If not, dump away. If there was a trade to get someone equally useful as Hyman the off-season prior, ok trade. Otherwise keep him for your run. It’s cheaper than bringing in Foligno which everybody loved.

The Leafs got full value out if their contract with Hyman.

- Canada Cup

The Leafs got well above value on Hyman's contract.

Now we can't afford him at full value.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
Fire Dubas.
Keeping soft Willie and letting Hyman go.
What a joke.

- MaximusAurelius


Pencil necked Skalapy weighs in
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don't do a franking penny over $4M, and even that is too much. Give him $3.5M X 5 with a full NMC.

FFS, the guy makes $20M a year from video games - and that success is largely based upon his marketability as a Leafs player.

I really hope he enjoys Edmonton.

For the next seven years.

- Atomic Wedgie



?? what is this about?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Fire Dubas.
Keeping soft Willie and letting Hyman go.
What a joke.

- MaximusAurelius

Soft Willie was easily our best playoff performer.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Fire Dubas.
Keeping soft Willie and letting Hyman go.
What a joke.

- MaximusAurelius


We all like Hyman. He termed himself out. If someone is giving him 7 or 8 years with value that considers all of those years higher than his projected AAV on a shorter term deal, he'd be a fool not to go. And we'd be fools to match.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
Soft Willie was easily our best playoff performer.
- mjones242



it got us where??

(and not true by the way)
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