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Ben Shelley
Anaheim Ducks
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Jul 21 @ 2:03 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Seattle will reportedly select Haydn Fleury from Ducks
DiggerCal
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 02.20.2015

Jul 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
Another bonehead move by Bonehead Bob.
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jul 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
The more I think about it, not that big a deal. We traded Hakanpaa (who is now a UFA) and a 6th round pick to acquire him. Maybe that was the plan all along with Ron Francis (since he went from Carolina to Seattle). Trade for Fleury so Francis can require him. So in reality we lost a 6th round pick in the expansion draft. Please don't make Fleury out to be the next Theodore.

And who knows if there's a side deal in place with Seattle to take a contract off our hands. We'll find that out later.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
The more I think about it, not that big a deal. We traded Hakanpaa (who is now a UFA) and a 6th round pick to acquire him. Maybe that was the plan all along with Ron Francis (since he went from Carolina to Seattle). Trade for Fleury so Francis can require him. So in reality we lost a 6th round pick in the expansion draft. Please don't make Fleury out to be the next Theodore.

And who knows if there's a side deal in place with Seattle to take a contract off our hands. We'll find that out later.

- quackup

Exactly! As long as Zegras, Comtois, Drysdale, Gibson, or Terry weren't taken, who cares? All of the hand-wringing over Fleury is bizarre, and I realize a lot of it has to do with hatred of Bob Murray. Hey, I don't like him either but he learned his lesson and didn't butcher this expansion draft.
Also, I'm REALLY glad Seattle didn't take Stolarz. Now the Ducks have their goalie tandem for next year and Dostal and Erickson-EK can spend a season in San Diego competing against each other.
letsgoducks
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 02.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 3:31 PM ET
Semi-annoyed, hopefully Guhle or Mahura can take a huge leap and really perform at the nhl level.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
Just the icing on the cake on what an unmitigated disaster Murray’s been…
Shuttles
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 10.04.2017

Jul 21 @ 6:50 PM ET
Just the icing on the cake on what an unmitigated disaster Murray’s been…
- dozerD10




dramatic much?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 21 @ 7:01 PM ET
dramatic much?
- Shuttles



Actually that’s rather subdued.. for the garbage festival Murray’s been… or do you like his moves???
Shuttles
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 10.04.2017

Jul 21 @ 7:34 PM ET
Actually that’s rather subdued.. for the garbage festival Murray’s been… or do you like his moves???
- dozerD10

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Murray fan and feel like it is time for a new GM. If we were lucky enough to have you running the show, we'd have at least 3 more cups. But instead we're stuck with GMBM and the Ducks lost someone in the expansion draft that he traded for last year because he wanted to protect those he drafted in the 1st round and the locker room glue guy with grit. Perhaps he has a trade lined with NY so he can fight Wilson all next season, but I'm not an insider so that's just speculation. Do I like some of the moves he's made? You bet. Do I question some of the others? Definitely. I come to Hockeybuzz to enjoy the comments, and as I said above, you're a bit dramatic.
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jul 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
Just the icing on the cake on what an unmitigated disaster Murray’s been…
- dozerD10

Hayden Fleury: 179 NHL games - 7G 20A -12
Josh Mahura: 41 NHL games - 3G 10A. -3

So Fleury has already played 4X the # of pro games as Mahura (who is 2 years younger). With zero improvement, multiply the Mahura totals by 4 and you would get:

164 NHL games Mahura - 12G 40A -12
179 NHL games Fleury - 7G 20A -12

The "unmitigated disaster" (for drama purposes/to quote dozer) would have been to lose Mahura.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
Hayden Fleury: 179 NHL games - 7G 20A -12
Josh Mahura: 41 NHL games - 3G 10A. -3

So Fleury has already played 4X the # of pro games as Mahura (who is 2 years younger). With zero improvement, multiply the Mahura totals by 4 and you would get:

164 NHL games Mahura - 12G 40A -12
179 NHL games Fleury - 7G 20A -12

The "unmitigated disaster" (for drama purposes/to quote dozer) would have been to lose Mahura.

- quackup


Like I said, icing on the cake for a multitude of boneheaded moves, there’s not enough space for me to list them all.

Fluery was a nice fit and easily protectable… It’s laughable people are wanting to protect Sam Steel that kid has done absolutely Deeeekk since he’s been here. D men are inherently more valuable than forwards. Especially forwards that can’t get their act together.

Just another in the long list of Murray failures.
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
Like I said, icing on the cake for a multitude of boneheaded moves, there’s not enough space for me to list them all.

Fluery was a nice fit and easily protectable… It’s laughable people are wanting to protect Sam Steel that kid has done absolutely Deeeekk since he’s been here. D men are inherently more valuable than forwards. Especially forwards that can’t get their act together.

Just another in the long list of Murray failures.

- dozerD10

Nice dodge on the Fleury/Mahura comparison.

I guess you would have kept Kase too? The same Kase who scored 6G with Boston and may never play another NHL game. I feel bad for him, but evidently you would have kept him.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:37 PM ET
Nice dodge on the Fleury/Mahura comparison.

I guess you would have kept Kase too? The same Kase who scored 6G with Boston and may never play another NHL game. I feel bad for him, but evidently you would have kept him.

- quackup



Don’t guess - and yes, I was an advocate of trading Kase after his previous injury -

Also with proper GMing - Fluery and Mahura who I’m a big fan of despite his many defensive shortcomings - which are well documented- were both easily keepable -

Just another indictment of Murray’s many failings-

quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jul 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
Don’t guess - and yes, I was an advocate of trading Kase after his previous injury -

Also with proper GMing - Fluery and Mahura who I’m a big fan of despite his many defensive shortcomings - which are well documented- were both easily keepable -

Just another indictment of Murray’s many failings-

- dozerD10

We can agree to disagree. Mahura "defensive shortcomings" no more apparent than Fleury, and he's 2 years younger.

If you want to keep Mahura and Fleury, then you advocate letting Fowler, Lindholm or Manson be exposed instead. You cannot guarantee neither would have been claimed. I think all 3 are more valuable than Fleury. You don't. That's fine.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
We can agree to disagree. Mahura "defensive shortcomings" no more apparent than Fleury, and he's 2 years younger.

If you want to keep Mahura and Fleury, then you advocate letting Fowler, Lindholm or Manson be exposed instead. You cannot guarantee neither would have been claimed. I think all 3 are more valuable than Fleury. You don't. That's fine.

- quackup


The problem with fans with an irrational hatred of Barstool Bob is no matter what he does it's the wrong move. You've pointed out that Mahura is basically a younger version of Fleury, so this really isn't that big of a deal. But I'd bet you a lot of money that if Seattle had picked Mahura instead of Fleury, that would have been an "unmitigated disaster", too. Mind you, we're talking about a 5/6 D-man in Fleury here, on a bad team! But yeah, whatever.
quackup
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 09.29.2014

Jul 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
The problem with fans with an irrational hatred of Barstool Bob is no matter what he does it's the wrong move. You've pointed out that Mahura is basically a younger version of Fleury, so this really isn't that big of a deal. But I'd bet you a lot of money that if Seattle had picked Mahura instead of Fleury, that would have been an "unmitigated disaster", too. Mind you, we're talking about a 5/6 D-man in Fleury here, on a bad team! But yeah, whatever.
- duxcup07

Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: The Singular Point
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jul 23 @ 8:36 PM ET
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