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John Gove
Joined: 07.02.2015

Jul 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
John Gove: Kraken Select Mark Giordano from Flames
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 21 @ 4:53 PM ET
Thanks John.
Well no surprise but now that its here, its a bit sad. Hopefully he gets to "retire: here and maybe we get a chance to sign him down the road to make that happen.

Knowing that, whats the speculation on our D pairings?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
Thanks John.
Gio has been a great player for the Flames, he's consistently showed up as training camp as the fittiest player. He's been an incredible defenceman getting better every year except the last couple. He looked terrible last year until paired with
Tanev. He's 37 and in the last year of his contract, there's no way in hell Treliving trades him at the trade deadline, not after all those years as a Flame. We have to remember the Flames have won 1 playoff series as him as our captain, and he missed that with injury. He will be missed but let's use that 7 mil cap space to make the d tougher to play against.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 21 @ 5:03 PM ET
It was the right thing to do but you can’t help but have a bitter taste in your mouth, especially after it was brought up that next season will be the first since 95 that one of iginla or gio weren’t in the opening night lineup. Also he’s only 51 games shy of 1000 which would have been nice to see in a flames uniform.

Now that it’s official I’ll be curious how we address the hole in our top 4. My first choice would be mike Reilly out of Boston but I also don’t think he’d be a fit in sutter’s system so I’d also be okay with Martinez, suter and Murray for the right term and dollars. I’m not too interested in trading picks/prospects for someone.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
Thanks John.
Well no surprise but now that its here, its a bit sad. Hopefully he gets to "retire: here and maybe we get a chance to sign him down the road to make that happen.

Knowing that, whats the speculation on our D pairings?

- geta02it

Hanifan Anderson
Valimaki Tanev
? Savard
Kylington Stone
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Hanifan Anderson
Valimaki Tanev
? Savard
Kylington Stone

- K-man25


I like savard but even though he had a bad season I think he’s going to be using tanev as a comparable going into free agency which is a little rich for my liking on the 3rd pair.

Also sutter wasn’t a huge fan of Vali so I think he’s going to be fighting more for a spot in the lineup against Mackey than he will be for a spot in the top 4. Will be interesting to see how it plays out nonetheless.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
I like savard but even though he had a bad season I think he’s going to be using tanev as a comparable going into free agency which is a little rich for my liking on the 3rd pair.

Also sutter wasn’t a huge fan of Vali so I think he’s going to be fighting more for a spot in the lineup against Mackey than he will be for a spot in the top 4. Will be interesting to see how it plays out nonetheless.

- RedC21

Forgot about MacKay he did look good in his debut. I think the thing with Sutter is he's going to mold Valimaki, Dube and all the young guys into the players he wants them to be, and if that means the odd popcorn eating visit to the press box so be it. We have to remember Val was injured for most of 2 seasons.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Treliving should be calling Carolina. If they're resigning Hamilton, they can't have that much cap space tied up on the blue line. Everyone but Slavin would probably be available for the right price. Either Pesce or Skjei would be perfect on the Flames. Gardiner is a pretty good high-risk high-reward option who probably wouldn't cost much to get, and Carolina would likely retain some salary. Even Bean is significantly better than what they currently have on the third pairing.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jul 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
In the last 12 months, the Flames have lost both Gio and Brodie for nothing. I guess Tre did a decent job with Brodie's cap space and now $7million from Gio ...the next few days are the biggest in Treliving's career imo, especially if he's trying to move one of the core players up front.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jul 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
I think Backlund's the favourite for the next captain, but we'll see
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 21 @ 5:41 PM ET
Forgot about MacKay he did look good in his debut. I think the thing with Sutter is he's going to mold Valimaki, Dube and all the young guys into the players he wants them to be, and if that means the odd popcorn eating visit to the press box so be it. We have to remember Val was injured for most of 2 seasons.
- K-man25


True and I agree with holding these guys accountable but it’s also a steep slope when trying to mold guys into something they’re not. Not saying it won’t work out but you run the risk of busting these guys if let’s say you try turning Dube into a bottom six heavy grinder or vali into a shutdown defensive D since that’s just not their skill sets or strengths they will likely ever have.

I also don’t love that these young guys make one mistake and they see the press box and guys like ritche, leivo, nordstrom and Nestorov were allowed to make multiple a game and never got that same treatment.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Jul 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
Treliving should be calling Carolina. If they're resigning Hamilton, they can't have that much cap space tied up on the blue line. Everyone but Slavin would probably be available for the right price. Either Pesce or Skjei would be perfect on the Flames. Gardiner is a pretty good high-risk high-reward option who probably wouldn't cost much to get, and Carolina would likely retain some salary. Even Bean is significantly better than what they currently have on the third pairing.
- Squeaky

Skjei isn't that good of a defenseman. I live near Carolina and go to/watch a lot of their games. He's not BAD but I think the kids need to play. Maybe see what the price for Savard is in FA or Suter, if he'd be willing to go to Calgary to shore up the blueline.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
Skjei isn't that good of a defenseman. I live near Carolina and go to/watch a lot of their games. He's not BAD but I think the kids need to play. Maybe see what the price for Savard is in FA or Suter, if he'd be willing to go to Calgary to shore up the blueline.
- Ol_Boy_Wop


What kids? Kylington and Mackey haven't even shown that they can be everyday NHLers and are barely kids anymore. Valimaki definitely isn't ready to be in the top four, especially playing for Sutter. All three would still get to play if they brought in Skjei.

Savard and Suter would be great. But we're in Calgary. It's going to cost way too much to convince them to sign.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jul 21 @ 6:24 PM ET
It sounds like Giordano Is headed to the Rangers by days end. Ryan Strome In return. New York Post/Mollie Walker.
ShallowLarynx
Joined: 01.24.2012

Jul 21 @ 6:44 PM ET
Lucky break for the Flames. Most teams have had to give up high draft picks to dump the expensive contracts of players that have significant decline in their game. Flames gain nearly $7M in cap space by losing a guy who was at best a 3-4 Dman now.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jul 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
Lucky break for the Flames. Most teams have had to give up high draft picks to dump the expensive contracts of players that have significant decline in their game. Flames gain nearly $7M in cap space by losing a guy who was at best a 3-4 Dman now.
- ShallowLarynx


He may be declining but he was still the best defenseman on the team. And still led the team in ice time.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jul 21 @ 7:50 PM ET
Thanks John.

I agree it's a bittersweet day. Hope he comes back to retire a Flame.

AS for the D, Sutter already called out the young guys, will be interesting to see what happens before October.

DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jul 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
It sounds like Giordano Is headed to the Rangers by days end. Ryan Strome In return. New York Post/Mollie Walker.
- Shady1962



https://nypost.com/2021/0...rs-strome-giordano-twist/
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
https://nypost.com/2021/0...rs-strome-giordano-twist/
- DuranDuran


Gross. Would have much preferred Gio be in Seattle this year and help groom the VERY young defence corps that they drafted otherwise...
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 21 @ 8:35 PM ET
Man, the host of this draft is a (frank)ing Richard.

Think he's drunk...
wreckage
Location: Fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 21 @ 9:26 PM ET
They can't be flipping Gio if they brought him in for the showcase. Can they?
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

Jul 21 @ 9:30 PM ET
I don't think Gio will be traded to NYR. If Kraken was thinking about trading him, they would NOT introduce him personally on stage. He is their next captain. He may be traded at the trade deadline depending on the positioning of Kraken but not now.
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

Jul 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
They can't be flipping Gio if they brought him in for the showcase. Can they?
- wreckage



Yes Exactly. We typed the same statement at the same time. They will not trade Gio.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
I don't think Gio will be traded to NYR. If Kraken was thinking about trading him, they would NOT introduce him personally on stage. He is their next captain. He may be traded at the trade deadline depending on the positioning of Kraken but not now.
- hockey4hockey


Yup, I think the same thing. Plus, they need he and Larsson on that back end to guide the kids
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:43 PM ET
He may be declining but he was still the best defenseman on the team. And still led the team in ice time.
- tincup


If anybody thought he was the best d on the team they would have either protected him or sent assets to Sesttle to take someone else. Many on here have complained of his quick decline. We're going to miss Gio but 7 mil in cap space opens a lot of other options.Tre did the right thing not protecting him.
Classy individual that I hope has a chance to resign here and retire a Flame. Should be some tears shed when he gives his fair well speech.
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