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SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:24 PM ET
I disagree. I think something did happen. It is more of a question of are the Blackhawks liable. We can’t always assume accusations are a money grab.
- NamedSource



so if that's the case, and if the "internal investigation" finds that the guys in the room were warned, do you fire Bowman and whomever else is still employed who was in the discussion?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 22 @ 8:24 PM ET
OK, this LVGK schedule reveal is pretty funny - nice dig at the Hawks

https://twitter.com/Golde.../1418338668243152896?s=20

- pdx2ord

Nice dig at Tampa, “take 18 million steps this way”.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:26 PM ET
Agreed. Sage gets way to much crap that others seem to get away with. Don’t like his posts. Don’t respond
- NamedSource


IMO that's fair....but he also doesn't engage with those who try to be civil with him either....so the victim card is valid when you only get in heated exchanges when name calling comes out.

if you want to pick and choose your battles that;s fine, but if you pick them against the extreme counter side then its fair game...otherwise, to your point, don't engage......
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:28 PM ET
The likelihood is that there's poop flying on both sides of this case. Almost always is.
- mohel



I agree with that, and I also agree there is a 0.1% chance we ever get to read the testimony and/or results of the "internal investigation"....something she has pressed the Hawks for and why she won't let her client participate.

Again, who the hell knows........not me....not me.
NamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.04.2017

Jul 22 @ 8:31 PM ET
so if that's the case, and if the "internal investigation" finds that the guys in the room were warned, do you fire Bowman and whomever else is still employed who was in the discussion?
- SteveRain

That’s not an easy question. They did let Aldrich go shortly thereafter. I don’t know what else they could’ve done. If they persuaded the plaintiff to not call the police and everyone in the room felt that was the correct course of action then yes....everyone should be fired
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Jul 22 @ 8:33 PM ET
Due to the comments on the Aldrich / John Doe(s) case(s) (which are tangentially hockey related) and the various other non-hockey issues on this blog I will continue reading Theo but stop reading any comments. The comments are either too imbecilic, prejudicial, political or are based on rumor or accusations and not based on fact.

Maybe I will read Kraken comments.

Take care.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:35 PM ET
That’s not an easy question. They did let Aldrich go shortly thereafter. I don’t know what else they could’ve done. If they persuaded the plaintiff to not call the police and everyone in the room felt that was the correct course of action then yes....everyone should be fired
- NamedSource


I 100% agree it's not an easy question and thats why the whole pitch fork mentality that I see in these mentions on twitter when these updates come out....I just shake my head.

If they settle, and that's a BIG IF, then to your original point something did happen..going to be fascinating to see what comes out of it. Again, huge IF.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 22 @ 8:38 PM ET
99%+ chance it is a share of the proceeds. She is absolutely trying to force a settlement, which she will get if she survives the motions to dismiss. It is unlikely that we will see any testimony.
- mohel

I am not sure about a settlement. It would have been in the Hawks' best PR interest to get this out of the news cycles, imo.

Or they believe they have the grounds to dismiss. Which it seems to me they do based on the 10 year statue. But I am sure it is more complicated than that.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 22 @ 8:42 PM ET
IMO that's fair....but he also doesn't engage with those who try to be civil with him either....so the victim card is valid when you only get in heated exchanges when name calling comes out.

if you want to pick and choose your battles that;s fine, but if you pick them against the extreme counter side then its fair game...otherwise, to your point, don't engage......

- SteveRain

That is not true. He has conversed in a civil manner until he gets called out.

It becomes an issue when he calls people out for their hypocrisy.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 22 @ 8:49 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmZ-_MgewjY


- gazza53


Good one. That's one of the best movies ever made. Where does it hurt? There are so many small funny parts in it like when she hits him in the face with the mirror either just before that scene.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 22 @ 8:49 PM ET
That is not true. He has conversed in a civil manner until he gets called out.

It becomes an issue when he calls people out for their hypocrisy.

- Elbows15


Right, like how he's always accused of having an agenda? So he calls someone out and everybody comes to the other person's aid? Why? Because they share the same beliefs is my guess
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 22 @ 8:53 PM ET
Throw in a "back" and he's Seabrook.
- rpeters01


Totally. Poor Seabs. He gave it all and then was wrongly criticized for being out of shape when he couldn't skate any more.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 22 @ 8:54 PM ET
Right, like how he's always accused of having an agenda? So he calls someone out and everybody comes to the other person's aid? Why? Because they share the same beliefs is my guess
- BetweenTheDots

Exactly. You don't want political post that are different than yours? Its pretty simple. Don't make any yourself.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:15 PM ET
Exactly. You don't want political post that are different than yours? Its pretty simple. Don't make any yourself.
- Elbows15

Well that's pretty much my point. For fawk sakes it's a hockey board not some pathetic Facebook page that people moan about everything all the time....
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 22 @ 9:16 PM ET
Exactly. You don't want political post that are different than yours? Its pretty simple. Don't make any yourself.
- Elbows15

And that’s the big problem isn’t it? People can no longer sit and discuss politics. Each side talks and the other side chooses not to listen. And that’s why politics are probably best not brought up here.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:19 PM ET
And that’s the big problem isn’t it? People can no longer sit and discuss politics. Each side talks and the other side chooses not to listen. And that’s why politics are probably best not brought up here.
- paulr



THIS.....moving forward anyone can female dog at me if I touch the subject. Need to police ourselves here so we don't drive off people wanting to talk hockey on a hockey board....who knew.
NamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.04.2017

Jul 22 @ 9:22 PM ET
Well that's pretty much my point. For fawk sakes it's a hockey board not some pathetic Facebook page that people moan about everything all the time....
- BGKarras

One can argue this is like a Facebook page where people moan about everything
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
THIS.....moving forward anyone can female dog at me if I touch the subject. Need to police ourselves here so we don't drive off people wanting to talk hockey on a hockey board....who knew.
- SteveRain

Lets start here - tomorrow I hope the Hawks draft the big Oil Kings goaltender Sebastian Cossa.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
so if that's the case, and if the "internal investigation" finds that the guys in the room were warned, do you fire Bowman and whomever else is still employed who was in the discussion?
- SteveRain


Nope, just the person who set the policy. Possibly the mental health coach, if accusations are true about him (he has professional responsibilities, in addition).
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jul 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
Says the person who has probably never spent a moment in a bad neighborhood. More importantly hasn’t lived on the west coast. Unless of course someone taking a dump on your doorstep is perfectly fine with you or homeless encamping the beaches.

Allowing bad people to do bad things and not prosecuting them is downright disgraceful and illegal.

- Diamondhands


Ok I’ll say it- that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. And I live in LA,have lived in sh!t neighborhoods in New York and LA, have never been robbed, never had a gun or knife pulled on me, never felt threatened (and I rode the bus for the first 10 years I was in LA and was working in South Central). The homeless situation here is dire, but it is all over the US including in rural America (Google rural homelessness and see, and how it’s also linked to the opioid epidemic in rural America) it’s just not as noticeable there as in big cities due to density and other factors that we could debate till the end of time but this is a hockey blog.

NamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.04.2017

Jul 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
Ok I’ll say it- that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. And I live in LA,have lived in sh!t neighborhoods in New York and LA, have never been robbed, never had a gun or knife pulled on me, never felt threatened (and I rode the bus for the first 10 years I was in LA and was working in South Central). The homeless situation here is dire, but it is all over the US including in rural America (Google rural homelessness and see, and how it’s also linked to the opioid epidemic in rural America) it’s just not as noticeable there as in big cities due to density and other factors that we could debate till the end of time but this is a hockey blog.
- Revco38


Agreed the vast majority are homeless because of addiction or mental health issues
NamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.04.2017

Jul 22 @ 9:27 PM ET
Lets start here - tomorrow I hope the Hawks draft the big Oil Kings goaltender Sebastian Cossa.
- RickJ

No goalies.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
...or else a typical procedural move...
- rpeters01


Oh interesting...guess I wrongly assumed that if there was an alleged rape (as is detailed in the amended complaint) that would have been in the initial filing.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 22 @ 9:30 PM ET
Nice dig at Tampa, “take 18 million steps this way”.
- Angotti


Man, it took me until you posted that to draw the connection - flew right over my head. Hilarious
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 22 @ 9:34 PM ET
Totally. Poor Seabs. He gave it all and then was wrongly criticized for being out of shape when he couldn't skate any more.
- Popsghostly


I (and I'm sure he) will always wonder if his career, and level of performance, would have been extended if he'd gone in for the repairs earlier. Feel for the guy.
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