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Nasty_Duck
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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Need to free up a LOT more than DeBrusk to afford Krejci and even half a season of Rask.
Our 2C is Coyle or Foligno. |
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Seems pretty good. Looks like the Bruins want to keep that window open. |
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Shaundre93
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Location: Standish, ME Joined: 07.18.2013
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Need to free up a LOT more than DeBrusk to afford Krejci and even half a season of Rask.
Our 2C is Coyle or Foligno. - Nasty_Duck
Trade debrusk and waive Moore and they have like 5.7M |
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Newgod77
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Location: IL Joined: 05.10.2015
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Krejci can sign a plus 35 deal. Not much cap space will be needed then |
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Nasty_Duck
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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Krejci can sign a plus 35 deal. Not much cap space will be needed then - Newgod77
"Will not benefit from a reduced cap hit regardless of the players location of play, termination, retired status, or a buyout."
How the frank does that help the Bruins? |
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BruinBlood
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Location: South Shore, MA Joined: 10.11.2005
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I would be fielding offers on a package of DeBrusk + Gryz, they have Chucky and Carlo as your Top 4 Dman and the rest are ALL 3rd pairing guys as of today, long time before the Season starts but they do not have a single 2nd line center in the entire organization, Once again a boatload of bottom 6 guys, I don't get it, but maybe Sweeney just isn't done. (I do expect Krejci back)
One other thing that needs to be addressed is toughness.
you lost Miller-Ritchie-Lauzon, that was a lot of Gloves flying around, they obviously have Freddy, but he can't fight everyone, Love the Foligno signing, Good Character Guy.
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Nasty_Duck
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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I would be fielding offers on a package of DeBrusk + Gryz, they have Chucky and Carlo as your Top 4 Dman and the rest are ALL 3rd pairing guys as of today, long time before the Season starts but they do not have a single 2nd line center in the entire organization, Once again a boatload of bottom 6 guys, I don't get it, but maybe Sweeney just isn't done. (I do expect Krejci back)
One other thing that needs to be addressed is toughness.
you lost Miller-Ritchie-Lauzon, that was a lot of Gloves flying around, they obviously have Freddy, but he can't fight everyone, Love the Foligno signing, Good Character Guy.
- BruinBlood
What about Forbert?
And yes, they need to make a trade to either get a 2C, or make room to sign a 2C.
Bruins do NOT have one on the roster right now.
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LAkings96
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Location: La Verne, CA Joined: 12.15.2012
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I like what the Bruins did. Think Forbert and Foligno or great signings that will fit right in with Bruins. Forbert can fit into the top 4 and is solid on the PK. Only question mark is goaltending now? |
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Nasty_Duck
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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I like what the Bruins did. Think Forbert and Foligno or great signings that will fit right in with Bruins. Forbert can fit into the top 4 and is solid on the PK. Only question mark is goaltending now? - LAkings96
Well supposedly Ulmark and Swayman until Rask (maybe) signs.
Short term biggest question mark is 2C - Bruins don't have one.
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Mahewman
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Location: NH Joined: 07.01.2009
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Well supposedly Ulmark and Swayman until Rask (maybe) signs.
Short term biggest question mark is 2C - Bruins don't have one. - Nasty_Duck
Coyle is borderline a 2nd line center. The Bruins have been spoiled down the middle. I also wouldn't be shocked if Krejci is a mid season addition at this point but i also thought he would be re-signed by now so who knows.
Foligno can also play center so in the end the Bruins have the depth to be ok. They also need to get Studnicka some reps.
It will be interesting to see how the lines play out.
Just realized coyle only had 16 points last year. Gross |
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bluemoon737
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Location: Portsmouth, NH Joined: 04.19.2019
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Coyle is borderline a 2nd line center. The Bruins have been spoiled down the middle. I also wouldn't be shocked if Krejci is a mid season addition at this point but i also thought he would be re-signed by now so who knows.
Foligno can also play center so in the end the Bruins have the depth to be ok. They also need to get Studnicka some reps.
It will be interesting to see how the lines play out.
Just realized coyle only had 16 points last year. Gross - Mahewman
Coyle was injured last season. Several "issues" with his knee (avulsion fracture to his kneecap and partial patella tendon tear) which required recent surgery. Probably explains poor performance when the wheels aren't right. Expected to make full recovery in time for the season. |
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RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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"Will not benefit from a reduced cap hit regardless of the players location of play, termination, retired status, or a buyout."
How the frank does that help the Bruins? - Nasty_Duck
I believe he/she is referring to the fact that Krejci, being 35 or older, will be allowed to sign a bonus laden contract that can mitigate some of his cap hit. Sort of like what we did with Iginla and Chara. Now is that the right move? That’s a whole different discussion. |
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RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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Coyle was injured last season. Several "issues" with his knee (avulsion fracture to his kneecap and partial patella tendon tear) which required recent surgery. Probably explains poor performance when the wheels aren't right. Expected to make full recovery in time for the season. - bluemoon737
I don’t have much faith that he’s anything more than a good 3C. He hasn’t shown that he is with any sort of consistency once in his entire career and the dude is 29 years old. People talk about Coyle like he has another gear to turn on or that he’ll develop into a 2C. If anything, his age would suggest regression, not progression. Talk to any Minnesota fan and they’ll say the exact same thing. “I loved Charlie and he’s the hardest worker out there, but you see flashes of brilliance that leave you wanting more.”
I hope I’m wrong, but unfortunately I don’t think that I am. |
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Nasty_Duck
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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I believe he/she is referring to the fact that Krejci, being 35 or older, will be allowed to sign a bonus laden contract that can mitigate some of his cap hit. Sort of like what we did with Iginla and Chara. Now is that the right move? That’s a whole different discussion. - RickJames77
Nothing I've read suggests the Bruins can avoid the hit.
https://colliganhockey.co...l-cba-35-older-contracts/
https://www.capfriendly.com/faq
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bluemoon737
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RickJames77
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Nothing I've read suggests the Bruins can avoid the hit.
https://colliganhockey.co...l-cba-35-older-contracts/
https://www.capfriendly.com/faq - Nasty_Duck
I looked briefly, but neither of those seem to have said anything about what I’m trying to get it.
If you sign a player over 35 to a contract and it’s say 3 years and an AAV of 6 million or whatever. That you cannot get out of if the player retires. If, however, you sign a player to a contract for 1 year and an AAV of 1 million, with 3 million in incentives, that 3 million does not count against the 2021-2022 cap hit. It would count against the 2022-2023 cap hit. Basically, any incentives via bonus affect the next year’s cap. But, what they call the bonus cushion, can only be 7.5% of the cap. So you can theoretically go over the cap by 7.5% by giving 35+ players an incentive laden contract.
Here’s an example of Iginla.
https://www.google.com/am...e.com/nhl/news/522309/amp[url]
This is also part of why Chara kept taking 1 year incentivized deals towards the end of his time here. |
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Nasty_Duck
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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I looked briefly, but neither of those seem to have said anything about what I’m trying to get it.
If you sign a player over 35 to a contract and it’s say 3 years and an AAV of 6 million or whatever. That you cannot get out of if the player retires. If, however, you sign a player to a contract for 1 year and an AAV of 1 million, with 3 million in incentives, that 3 million does not count against the 2021-2022 cap hit. It would count against the 2022-2023 cap hit. Basically, any incentives via bonus affect the next year’s cap. But, what they call the bonus cushion, can only be 7.5% of the cap. So you can theoretically go over the cap by 7.5% by giving 35+ players an incentive laden contract.
Here’s an example of Iginla.
https://www.google.com/am...e.com/nhl/news/522309/amp - RickJames77[url]
This is also part of why Chara kept taking 1 year incentivized deals towards the end of his time here.
They might be able to do that.
But you still need to pay the piper at some point. Do we want to do that when McAvoy and Bergeron need new contracts? According to your example the Bruins put themselves in a bit of a bind. And will Krecji be signing a 1-year contract?
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Mahewman
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Location: NH Joined: 07.01.2009
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They might be able to do that.
But you still need to pay the piper at some point. Do we want to do that when McAvoy and Bergeron need new contracts? According to your example the Bruins put themselves in a bit of a bind. And will Krecji be signing a 1-year contract? - Nasty_Duck
This is my biggest worry. That cap space they had for 10 seconds has been absorbed both this and next year. Where is the cap space for Mcavoy and Patrice? |
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Nasty_Duck
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This is my biggest worry. That cap space they had for 10 seconds has been absorbed both this and next year. Where is the cap space for Mcavoy and Patrice? - Mahewman
It really was 10 seconds, right?
I saw well over 20M. Blinked. They were at the Cap.
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RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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They might be able to do that.
But you still need to pay the piper at some point. Do we want to do that when McAvoy and Bergeron need new contracts? According to your example the Bruins put themselves in a bit of a bind. And will Krecji be signing a 1-year contract? - Nasty_Duck
I didn’t say I did. I was simply trying to explain the other poster’s point. I said at the end of my original post that “Now is that the right move? That’s a whole different discussion.”
We only have a couple of years left in contention, so I’d lean toward it is the right move. Especially with Bergeron’s contract up after 2022 and with him most likely doing the same thing. We should kick the can down the round for at least 3 years and try and win while we can and then hit the reset button in my opinion. We’re in a very different position than most teams. Let’s face it, we’ll most likely suck in 3+ years. |
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Mahewman
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Location: NH Joined: 07.01.2009
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It really was 10 seconds, right?
I saw well over 20M. Blinked. They were at the Cap.
- Nasty_Duck
Yup and every young defenseman is getting 9 million right now so where exactly is that space going to come from for Mcavoy?
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RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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Krejci is going back to the Czech Republic. |
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RickJames77
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Yup and every young defenseman is getting 9 million right now so where exactly is that space going to come from for Mcavoy? - Mahewman
They have over 12 million coming off of the books next off season. The money is there.
Did we want Sweeney to roll with the same core that can’t get past NYI or Tampa? He owed it to this core to try and better the team for this season. His horses won’t run forever and it’d be a disservice to Marchand and Bergeron to just stand pat. |
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Carm79
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Location: MONTREAL, QC Joined: 04.10.2014
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Krejci is going back to the Czech Republic. - RickJames77
Good for him if this is what he wants to do, in the meantime the B's have no 2C.
I hope Studnicka gets a real shot at the job |
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