If you're going to extend blame out to Stan a lot of people in other fields will be off their BOD's. Sexual harassment happens every day in every organization.
- rpeters01

I'm not blaming, accusing anyone of anything.

I'm not blaming, accusing anyone of anything.
- BetweenTheDots

Noooooo, not you.

Without commenting on the culpability of any of the players in this more than unfortunate incident, if what the alleged victims say is true, this goes well beyond the odd smirky comment or come-on (as bad as those are).

This is approaching sexual assault by Aldrich on the level of his actions a few years later that got him on the sex registry in Michigan, and those earlier that should have led to retribution.
- StLBravesFan

Assault is definitely different than harassment but lets be clear, there was no rape or attempted rape or cover up of such an assault. Also sounding like there was NOT a recommendation letter by Chicago either.

Assault is definitely different than harassment but lets be clear, there was no rape or attempted rape or cover up of such an assault. Also sounding like there was NOT a recommendation letter by Chicago either.
- rpeters01

What you are completely missing is the value of public opinion. Olympics is a business as any other, and optics mean something.

Assault is definitely different than harassment but lets be clear, there was no rape or attempted rape or cover up of such an assault. Also sounding like there was NOT a recommendation letter by Chicago either.
- rpeters01

From Pope in the Sun Times, 7/22/2021>

Amended versions of two lawsuits against the Hawks were filed Thursday and obtained by the Sun-Times. The first amended lawsuit claims Aldrich forced the Hawks player, identified as “John Doe 1,” to have nonconsensual sex — a specification that was previously unclear.

The lawsuit alleges Aldrich invited Doe 1 to his apartment “under the premise that Aldrich would go over game clips” with him. Upon Doe 1’s arrival, however, Aldrich allegedly turned on pornography and began to masturbate in front of Doe 1.

When Doe 1 tried to leave the apartment, Aldrich allegedly “blocked the only exit” and “physically threatened” Doe 1 with a souvenir Cubs baseball bat, telling him he would “never play in the NHL . . . if [he] did not engage in nonconsensual sexual activity with Aldrich at that time,” according to the lawsuit.

With Doe 1 left “paralyzed in fear,” Aldrich then allegedly “exposed himself” to him, “forcibly touch[ed]” him, performed other “lewd and lascivious” acts and finally “ejaculated on” him, according to the lawsuit.

Sounds like assault to me (not proven yet, but that’s the allegation).

the hawks play in a prospect camp this FRI 7pm and SUN 1pm vs Wild. the hawks have not announced the roster. both scrimmages will be on MIN you tube channel .

also taige harding is going to play for the waterloo blackhawks of the USHL

From Pope in the Sun Times, 7/22/2021>

Amended versions of two lawsuits against the Hawks were filed Thursday and obtained by the Sun-Times. The first amended lawsuit claims Aldrich forced the Hawks player, identified as “John Doe 1,” to have nonconsensual sex — a specification that was previously unclear.

The lawsuit alleges Aldrich invited Doe 1 to his apartment “under the premise that Aldrich would go over game clips” with him. Upon Doe 1’s arrival, however, Aldrich allegedly turned on pornography and began to masturbate in front of Doe 1.

When Doe 1 tried to leave the apartment, Aldrich allegedly “blocked the only exit” and “physically threatened” Doe 1 with a souvenir Cubs baseball bat, telling him he would “never play in the NHL . . . if
- StLBravesFan[he] did not engage in nonconsensual sexual activity with Aldrich at that time,” according to the lawsuit.

With Doe 1 left “paralyzed in fear,” Aldrich then allegedly “exposed himself” to him, “forcibly touch[ed]” him, performed other “lewd and lascivious” acts and finally “ejaculated on” him, according to the lawsuit.

Sounds like assault to me (not proven yet, but that’s the allegation).

Any info about why this information was not in the original complaint? Seems curious.

Anyway, the Hawks should've fired the turd. Oh, wait.....

What you are completely missing is the value of public opinion. Olympics is a business as any other, and optics mean something.
- BetweenTheDots

But you, of course, are not accusing anyone of anything.

Any info about why this information was not in the original complaint? Seems curious.

Anyway, the Hawks should've fired the turd. Oh, wait.....
- mohel

I found that curious also. You would think that if this incident was so traumatic, Doe would remember every detail to a T. At least for me, it makes it harder to know if this really happened, or if Doe is being coached.

I found that curious also. You would think that if this incident was so traumatic, Doe would remember every detail to a T. At least for me, it makes it harder to know if this really happened, or if Doe is being coached.
- powerenforcer

Well without the additional information, according to Illinois law, there is no assault. I wonder if the "meeting" with Vincent included this information, I also wonder if this was just added to the lawsuit, because without it, they have no case.

Well without the additional information, according to Illinois law, there is no assault. I wonder if the "meeting" with Vincent included this information, I also wonder if this was just added to the lawsuit, because without it, they have no case.
- LAHawk

Lots of "wonder" there.

Lots of "wonder" there.
- BetweenTheDots

As if you know all the facts, please tell me.

As if you know all the facts, please tell me.
- LAHawk

I sure don't, i don't even know the laws or how to interpret them like everyone else does here

Just pointing out public opinion does matter no matter how much people complain about it or dismiss it

Fred Stanfield who was traded to Boston in the infamous Phil Esposito and Ken Hodge deal passed away at 77. RIP.

I sure don't, i don't even know the laws or how to interpret them like everyone else does here

Just pointing out public opinion does matter no matter how much people complain about it or dismiss it
- BetweenTheDots

In the immortal words of Coach Ditka, who you crappin'?

In the immortal words of Coach Ditka, who you crappin'?
- mohel

I was always a fan of "Git yer mouth shut!"

Coach really had a way with words.

I was always a fan of "Git yer mouth shut!"

Coach really had a way with words.
- HawkintheD

Yeah! But did he like young guys?

Yeah! But did he like young guys?
- paulr

Easy there sailor. Not that there’s anything wrong with that of course.

Blackhawks finally announce prospect exhibition roster for this weekend vs the Wild.

I’ll have a blog tomorrow with thoughts and suggested lines.

https://www.nhl.com/black...owcase-roster/c-326140456

Blackhawks finally announce prospect exhibition roster for this weekend vs the Wild.

I’ll have a blog tomorrow with thoughts and suggested lines.

https://www.nhl.com/black...owcase-roster/c-326140456
- Theo Fox

Thanks Theo. It will be interesting to see if Krutil can get things moving in the right direction. He seemed to struggle quite a bit last year (possibly in over his head in the AHL). I'm also curious to see how Crevier does considering how much he is mentioned here.

What you are completely missing is the value of public opinion. Olympics is a business as any other, and optics mean something.
- BetweenTheDots

You aren't wrong, but the Olympics are a poop show in and of themselves. Russia wasn't "allowed" to win a medal, but all of their athletes still competed and/or won. There are constant issues with doping. The IOC itself is a disaster and it is plain to see that it is strictly about money (as opposed to some idealized athletic competition that is somehow more pure than professional sports).

I believe they care less about optics than you think. Even if it outwardly states as much, it is mostly simply theater.

You aren't wrong, but the Olympics are a poop show in and of themselves. Russia wasn't "allowed" to win a medal, but all of their athletes still competed and/or won. There are constant issues with doping. The IOC itself is a disaster and it is plain to see that it is strictly about money (as opposed to some idealized athletic competition that is somehow more pure than professional sports).

I believe they care less about optics than you think. Even if it outwardly states as much, it is mostly simply theater.
- Chunk

Name a INT body in anything that is real effective sports or otherwise.

From Pope in the Sun Times, 7/22/2021>

Amended versions of two lawsuits against the Hawks were filed Thursday and obtained by the Sun-Times. The first amended lawsuit claims Aldrich forced the Hawks player, identified as “John Doe 1,” to have nonconsensual sex — a specification that was previously unclear.

The lawsuit alleges Aldrich invited Doe 1 to his apartment “under the premise that Aldrich would go over game clips” with him. Upon Doe 1’s arrival, however, Aldrich allegedly turned on pornography and began to masturbate in front of Doe 1.

When Doe 1 tried to leave the apartment, Aldrich allegedly “blocked the only exit” and “physically threatened” Doe 1 with a souvenir Cubs baseball bat, telling him he would “never play in the NHL . . . if
- StLBravesFan[he] did not engage in nonconsensual sexual activity with Aldrich at that time,” according to the lawsuit.

With Doe 1 left “paralyzed in fear,” Aldrich then allegedly “exposed himself” to him, “forcibly touch[ed]” him, performed other “lewd and lascivious” acts and finally “ejaculated on” him, according to the lawsuit.

Sounds like assault to me (not proven yet, but that’s the allegation).

Article I read where Chicago lawyers recently asked them to drop the suit was quite a bit different.

You aren't wrong, but the Olympics are a poop show in and of themselves. Russia wasn't "allowed" to win a medal, but all of their athletes still competed and/or won. There are constant issues with doping. The IOC itself is a disaster and it is plain to see that it is strictly about money (as opposed to some idealized athletic competition that is somehow more pure than professional sports).

I believe they care less about optics than you think. Even if it outwardly states as much, it is mostly simply theater.
- Chunk

We'll see how this plays out, if there's the chance the optics means less viewership which equals less monies especially if sponsors have an issue withit, like the expression goes money talks bull poop walks

Thanks Theo. It will be interesting to see if Krutil can get things moving in the right direction. He seemed to struggle quite a bit last year (possibly in over his head in the AHL). I'm also curious to see how Crevier does considering how much he is mentioned here.
- Chunk

Theo muddying the blog with hockey again.