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Zak MacMillan
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Joined: 09.21.2015

Sep 13 @ 11:28 PM ET
Zak MacMillan: Lefebvre Even before coaching a game with Columbus, the Blue Jackets lose a new assistant coach.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Sep 14 @ 8:11 AM ET
The Divider in Chief has spoken, and the minions have responded.
Dropthepucknotgloves
Joined: 05.28.2021

Sep 14 @ 8:49 AM ET
Despite what side you are on, I respect his choice. By not taking the shot, he prob is done as a coach as long as the NHL continues to demand coaches take the shot.
If he is willing to walk away from coaching due to not wanting the shot, that’s his choice ,he is a grown man. So be it.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 14 @ 8:50 AM ET
probably worst defenseman in Rangers history
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Sep 14 @ 9:11 AM ET
maybe there's something we don't know here, but this sounds like a selfish and stupid decision by Lefebvre

imagine telling your players 'no i wont get the vaccine' and expecting them to believe you've got their backs
revdean
Boston Bruins
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.27.2019

Sep 14 @ 10:02 AM ET
And with that one move, I hope Jarmo is nominated for the General Manager of the Year Award.
Rocky_is_BillJr
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2012

Sep 14 @ 10:14 AM ET
maybe there's something we don't know here, but this sounds like a selfish and stupid decision by Lefebvre

imagine telling your players 'no i wont get the vaccine' and expecting them to believe you've got their backs




Why is it a stupid decision? Aren't all the players vaccinated?
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sep 14 @ 10:16 AM ET
Jarmo simply enforced league policy, if anti vaxers want to get angry it's towards the nhl , not the cbj or Jarmo .

That being said , Lefebvre in Laval was meh at times , I doubt he would of brought anything concret on the defensive side that McCarthy can't provide. The key here is keeping Pascal Vincent as an assistant.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Sep 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
Jarmo simply enforced league policy, if anti vaxers want to get angry it's towards the nhl , not the cbj or Jarmo .

That being said , Lefebvre in Laval was meh at times , I doubt he would of brought anything concret on the defensive side that McCarthy can't provide. The key here is keeping Pascal Vincent as an assistant.

- Alexzanki


Yeah, this seems to just be a poor life decision by Lefebve, but it is his decision to make. I question the league policy though, as it sounded like Thompson in SJ had medical issues with taking the vaccine, and it cost him his job too. I would think there should be some sort of medical exemption in the league policy.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Sep 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
maybe there's something we don't know here, but this sounds like a selfish and stupid decision by Lefebvre

imagine telling your players 'no i wont get the vaccine' and expecting them to believe you've got their backs




Why is it a stupid decision? Aren't all the players vaccinated?

- Rocky_is_BillJr


are you serious with that question?

skipping past the benefits of being vaccinated and the risks of being unvaccinated... if all the players are willing to do it and he isn't, that lack of solidarity from a coach is problematic

imagine he gets COVID and misses several weeks or even months of the season? or dies? if he'd been vaccinated he likely would have missed just a couple weeks

"sorry guys, i decided to take a chance that i might have to completely bail on you mid-season, thanks for your commitment to the cause though"
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 14 @ 11:54 AM ET
Yeah, this seems to just be a poor life decision by Lefebve, but it is his decision to make. I question the league policy though, as it sounded like Thompson in SJ had medical issues with taking the vaccine, and it cost him his job too. I would think there should be some sort of medical exemption in the league policy.
- Beergu


I'm going to go out on a limb here and state (the obvious)

if you're unwilling to get the vaccine the odds are very very high it's not because of an undisclosed medical condition, it's because you don't want to (for whatever other reason you choose)

https://www.cdc.gov/coron...nderlying-conditions.html
hockeygm
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: Reno, NV
Joined: 05.12.2008

Sep 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
Since Biden has exempted the entirety of Congress and their staffs from the vaccine mandate as well as the millions of illegals that are present in the US (with as many as 20% having tested positive for the virus) he has demonstrated that the mandate is a political ploy rather than a legitimate attempt at public safety. Much like the Dems repeated flouting of the mask mandate (Gavin Newsom, Warren, Jacky Rosen in NV, Pelosi in SF amongst many others) they weaken any legitimacy of the orders when they are the ones who are repeatedly ignoring it.
The League, on the other hand, due to liability exposure, has to have the mandate to protect itself from litigation. Much like the installation of the nets around the rink after a single tragic death of a 12 year old in Columbus who died because the Drs missed the arterial bleed not the hit in the head with the errant puck, the League has to have the mandate.

farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
Since Biden has exempted the entirety of Congress and their staffs from the vaccine mandate as well as the millions of illegals that are present in the US (with as many as 20% having tested positive for the virus) he has demonstrated that the mandate is a political ploy rather than a legitimate attempt at public safety. Much like the Dems repeated flouting of the mask mandate (Gavin Newsom, Warren, Jacky Rosen in NV, Pelosi in SF amongst many others) they weaken any legitimacy of the orders when they are the ones who are repeatedly ignoring it.
The League, on the other hand, due to liability exposure, has to have the mandate to protect itself from litigation. Much like the installation of the nets around the rink after a single tragic death of a 12 year old in Columbus who died because the Drs missed the arterial bleed not the hit in the head with the errant puck, the League has to have the mandate.

- hockeygm


oy

"A spokesperson at the Congressional Institute told VERIFY by email that the president cannot impose a vaccine mandate on Congress via executive order or in an agency or department regulation.

On Aug. 3, 20 members of the House of Representatives sent a letter to Dr. Brian Monahan, who serves as the Attending Physician of Congress, asking him to consider mandating vaccines for Congress and their staff or to require COVID-19 testing at least twice a week. "

https://www.verifythis.co...9b-4ae6-87e2-60df8a6967a8
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Sep 14 @ 1:26 PM ET
The "vaccine" is a misnomer. The CDC has even changed the original definition of vaccine to fit what we "have" to have. It doesn't stop/kill/prevent anything, and the only "at risk" person from a non-vaxer is the person themself.
If you're vaxed, you can still get the virus, and still transmit the virus - no different than if you're not vaxed. Only if you DO get COVID, the symtoms will be stemmed, not as serious.
This is a health issue (Fauci had prior knowledge, and influence, of what was happening at the lab in China) that was manipulated and mismanaged into a play for power/control and money.
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 14 @ 1:44 PM ET
The "vaccine" is a misnomer. The CDC has even changed the original definition of vaccine to fit what we "have" to have. It doesn't stop/kill/prevent anything, and the only "at risk" person from a non-vaxer is the person themself.
If you're vaxed, you can still get the virus, and still transmit the virus - no different than if you're not vaxed. Only if you DO get COVID, the symtoms will be stemmed, not as serious.
This is a health issue (Fauci had prior knowledge, and influence, of what was happening at the lab in China) that was manipulated and mismanaged into a play for power/control and money.

- birdie03


"The CDC has even changed the original definition of vaccine to fit what we "have" to have."

Source please?

Sometimes people take normal things and make them seem nefarious. I'm sure this behavior has a name.

The vaccine in question is a lot more effective than the one for influenza.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/v...es-work/vaccineeffect.htm
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 14 @ 1:56 PM ET
Since Biden has exempted the entirety of Congress and their staffs from the vaccine mandate as well as the millions of illegals that are present in the US (with as many as 20% having tested positive for the virus) he has demonstrated that the mandate is a political ploy rather than a legitimate attempt at public safety. Much like the Dems repeated flouting of the mask mandate (Gavin Newsom, Warren, Jacky Rosen in NV, Pelosi in SF amongst many others) they weaken any legitimacy of the orders when they are the ones who are repeatedly ignoring it.
The League, on the other hand, due to liability exposure, has to have the mandate to protect itself from litigation. Much like the installation of the nets around the rink after a single tragic death of a 12 year old in Columbus who died because the Drs missed the arterial bleed not the hit in the head with the errant puck, the League has to have the mandate.

- hockeygm


Congress sets its own rules for itself and OSHA has no authority.

And you realize why they’re called illegals, right?

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
Zak MacMillan: Lefebvre
Even before coaching a game with Columbus, the Blue Jackets lose a new assistant coach.

- Zak MacMillan


You guys dodged a bullet on this one, Lefebvre was a terrible coach in Laval doing virtually nothing int he way of player development and never having a decent season.

You should be thanking the covid mandates about now.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Sep 14 @ 3:33 PM ET
maybe there's something we don't know here, but this sounds like a selfish and stupid decision by Lefebvre

imagine telling your players 'no i wont get the vaccine' and expecting them to believe you've got their backs

- Coburns_Nose





#commiebuzz
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Sep 14 @ 3:36 PM ET
Congress sets its own rules for itself and OSHA has no authority.

And you realize why they’re called illegals, right?

- Canada Cup



Fun fact.
Having the same opinion as everyone in social media, media, and Joe Biden himself, doesn’t make you smart.



Anyway!
Back to your daily therapy on commiebuzz
gonch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
maybe there's something we don't know here, but this sounds like a selfish and stupid decision by Lefebvre

imagine telling your players 'no i wont get the vaccine' and expecting them to believe you've got their backs

- Coburns_Nose



wow, what a tool you are
gonch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
are you serious with that question?

skipping past the benefits of being vaccinated and the risks of being unvaccinated... if all the players are willing to do it and he isn't, that lack of solidarity from a coach is problematic

imagine he gets COVID and misses several weeks or even months of the season? or dies? if he'd been vaccinated he likely would have missed just a couple weeks

"sorry guys, i decided to take a chance that i might have to completely bail on you mid-season, thanks for your commitment to the cause though"

- Coburns_Nose[/quote

drinking the Kool-aid I see, sad to say the least
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 14 @ 3:49 PM ET

This is a health issue (Fauci had prior knowledge, and influence, of what was happening at the lab in China) that was manipulated and mismanaged into a play for power/control and money.

- birdie03


This one always cracks me up the most. What power and control is anyone gaining by mandating a virus? You honestly think there are people cackling maniacally and getting off over the fact that they can mandate people take the virus? Actually, you're right, that makes much more sense than trying to get a global pandemic under control. If the people in power were really just after power and control, it would be a lot easier for them to keep the virus out there as long as possible.

And money? You really think the people mandating the vaccine are profiting off it? It's costing them a fortune.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
Fun fact.
Having the same opinion as everyone in social media, media, and Joe Biden himself, doesn’t make you smart.

- Unholy_Forward


Fun fact. Nothing he said was an opinion.
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Sep 14 @ 6:06 PM ET
This one always cracks me up the most. What power and control is anyone gaining by mandating a virus? You honestly think there are people cackling maniacally and getting off over the fact that they can mandate people take the virus? Actually, you're right, that makes much more sense than trying to get a global pandemic under control. If the people in power were really just after power and control, it would be a lot easier for them to keep the virus out there as long as possible.

And money? You really think the people mandating the vaccine are profiting off it? It's costing them a fortune.

- Squeaky


Okay lemming, try this https://www.miamiherald.c...rus/article254111268.html

For further about Fauci's prior knowledge, and funding by NIAID (Fauci is Director), look at this: https://www.washingtonpos...p-over-wuhan-lab-funding/

There are some people that question things, and others that blindly do what they're told.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 14 @ 6:25 PM ET
Fun fact.
Having the same opinion as everyone in social media, media, and Joe Biden himself, doesn’t make you smart.



Anyway!
Back to your daily therapy on commiebuzz

- Unholy_Forward


Lol the whole opinion and facts thing is so annoying isn’t. I don’t like your opinions so I’ll reject the facts.

1. OSHA governs occupational safety, etc for commerce - ie businesses. Congress is not a business and is not covered. Biden did not, as you suggested, exempt Congress from the mandate that is mandated through OSHA.

2. This seems a bit more straightforward. Illegals are in the country illegally - hence the name. Nobody brought them in to spread Covid.
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