Eklund
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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"The NFL checks every TD in the fourth quarters if games, and every TD in the playoffs. Why would the NHL be so afraid of looking bad that they threaten teams to challenge them?" - Eklund
NFL play is static, it starts and stops. Video review officials only need to look at one part of one short play to see if the player who scores is in-bounds and/or maintains control of the ball.
It can be lot longer/more difficult for the NHL to review the entire play for offsides/goaltender interference/puck leaving the ice and hitting the safety net/etc..., especially in cases where the team getting scored on is hemmed in their zone for an extended period of time. It could lead to significant delays in the game.
If you want to just cherry-pick reviewing all 3rd period/playoff goals for goaltender interference only maybe that takes a bit of the risk away from the coaches due to the schizophrenic nature of whatever the hell constitutes goaltender interference on any given night. |
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Eklund
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Joined: 09.15.2005
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If you want to just cherry-pick reviewing all 3rd period/playoff goals for goaltender interference only maybe that takes a bit of the risk away from the coaches due to the schizophrenic nature of whatever the hell constitutes goaltender interference on any given night. - eichiefs9
I'd be fine with ONLY third period goals being looked at, as it now is in overtime...Most goals are pretty straightforward and would cause no delay. But anything, not just goalie interference, but puck hitting the netting, offsides, should be gotten right.
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Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA Joined: 06.06.2013
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The rule is fantastic. Why slow down the game with checks after every goal? Look at what VAR has done in Europe with soccer. The NHL rule is a great disincentive. Don't care if a few goals are wrongly given. It is an imperfect world. |
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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ Joined: 03.07.2011
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It should be a judgement call, if the ref feels that it was that the act was intentional then give the penalty but it the call is judgemental and not conclusive keep the call on the ice but don't call the penalty |
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I have no problem with this rule. If you want to delay the game you better have a good reason for it. |
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gmarz16
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Brick, NJ Joined: 07.21.2013
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How many questionable goals are there in the entire game?
I think getting it right is more important than the occasional delay. How about one free coaches challenge (the next one risks a penalty), and all third period and OT goals are checked automatically? |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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What a tone def article. You penalize teams because if you didnt they would challenge everything and hope something sticks causing the game to take longer.
The Refs should be able to penalize teams at their discretion. If the challenge is reasonable and the ruling on the ice stands dont penalize the team for challenging. There are many instances where there is a challenge and because of the angles or bodies, they cant see enough evidence to overturn the call. In this case a team shouldnt be penalized for a reasonable challenge. However if there is clear evidence that the call on the ice should stand then penalize the team for wasting time |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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What a tone def article. You penalize teams because if you didnt they would challenge everything and hope something sticks causing the game to take longer.
The Refs should be able to penalize teams at their discretion. If the challenge is reasonable and the ruling on the ice stands dont penalize the team for challenging. There are many instances where there is a challenge and because of the angles or bodies, they cant see enough evidence to overturn the call. In this case a team shouldnt be penalized for a reasonable challenge. However if there is clear evidence that the call on the ice should stand then penalize the team for wasting time |
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bcallaway
St Louis Blues |
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Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh? Joined: 03.29.2006
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It's not that the NHL looks amateur. The NHL is amateur.
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Papshady
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.02.2017
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I respectfully disagree with your take. Hockey is meant to be fluid. I love the NFL but the constant challenging or threat of challenge or replay review ect really slows down the pace and flow. I like that you better have evidence to prove otherwise. Dont forget, the refs give the coaches about 2 minutes after a goal to decide weather they want to challenge. Thats more than enough time for your teams representatives to assess weather they can win a challenge or not. |
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Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 06.03.2008
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Hockey is run by morons
Admitting it is the first step in solving the problem |
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he knew the answers he'd get to this post before writing it
Click bait.
And we all fell for it.
if we didn't have the penalty they'd challenge every play for something
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The NHL is a Mickey Mouse league. Has been for about 15 years |
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The NHL rules and officiating are a joke I see blatant calls right in front of officials not called a penalty when everyone with half a brain knows it was a penalty. They are the laughing stock of all officials and rules are completely disregarded. It sometimes is like watching wrestling when the bad guy goes for a "foreign Object" and everyone sees it but the referee does not. It is a joke. Stupid is Stupid was and Stupid will always be |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Hey guys, I got me a new Lamborghini today |
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Crushers68
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Hilton Head Island, SC Joined: 02.17.2009
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[quote=Komisaurus Rex]I found the ESPN/TNT commentary very bland and boring, making the game less enjoyable to watch that's not good to get new eyes on the sport south of the border. Watch Sportsnet and you'll see the difference.
The coverage in the US has been AWFUL! Makes me miss Versus |
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[quote=Komisaurus Rex]I found the ESPN/TNT commentary very bland and boring, making the game less enjoyable to watch that's not good to get new eyes on the sport south of the border. Watch Sportsnet and you'll see the difference.
The coverage in the US has been AWFUL! Makes me miss Versus - Crushers68
ESPN / TNT is horrible. There is no chemistry between PBP and color analysts, their voices are terrible, and they don't know what is actually exciting about the game.
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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ESPN / TNT is horrible. There is no chemistry between PBP and color analysts, their voices are terrible, and they don't know what is actually exciting about the game. - atibus
TNT is fine.
ESPN is hot garbage. Their audio is a step ahead of the video and anyone trotting Leah Hextall out there to call games deserves to lose their job. |
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Hey Ek. Remember the skate in the crease era? Every time a goal was scored fans wouldn't even celebrate. Instead they would hope the ref would just drop the puck before getting the call...uh, oh, someone on the other side of the crease who didn't impede the goalie in any way had a skate in the crease. NO GOAL! That was fun.
You are basically suggesting we go back to that. The refs make a judgement call but it doesn't matter. Someone in a booth in Toronto will just phone it in and declare that 23 seconds earlier someone was offside by an inch, or 14 seconds before that perfect shot someone was jostling with a d-man in front of the net and it appears (according to someone in Toronto) that they didn't try hard enough to avoid the goalie. So...NO GOAL!
It would ruin the sport. Maybe you and the casual fans that you are speaking to can't understand the injustice of the situation, but most knowledgeable fans just accept that this is the fastest sport in the world and there is judgement involved. Sometimes it goes your way and sometimes it doesn't.
Personally, I'd like refs to have more judgement, not less. If you want to talk amateur hour, how about the puck over the glass. Give the refs some judgement on whether a player was deliberately under pressure, or perhaps the puck rolled on you and it was an innocent mistake. Who cares if a high-stick draws blood or not. Let the ref make a judgement call on how dangerous the play was. This automatic 4 minutes because of a drop of blood removes human judgement. But this might confuse the casual fans. |
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By the way, you didn't make your picks in the 2 series last night. Just assume you went with Calgary and Carolina?
Also, it's been reported that Trotz is interviewing in Philly tomorrow. Figured you'd be all over that. |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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It's an amateurly officiated league anyway, every playoff goal should be allowed a review and so should every cheesy penalty. |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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I'd be fine with ONLY third period goals being looked at, as it now is in overtime...Most goals are pretty straightforward and would cause no delay. But anything, not just goalie interference, but puck hitting the netting, offsides, should be gotten right. - Eklund
Why would you be fine with that, any goal scored in the playoffs is just as important. If you review one you review them all. |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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How many questionable goals are there in the entire game?
I think getting it right is more important than the occasional delay. How about one free coaches challenge (the next one risks a penalty), and all third period and OT goals are checked automatically? - gmarz16
How about the next one risks a penalty if the first one is incorrect. No penalty until one is incorrect. |
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