Kevin Francis: Will the Sens extend an RFA offer sheet? Potential trade targets and more!

Kevin Francis: Will the Sens extend an RFA offer sheet? Potential trade targets and more!
- Kevin Francis

Any insight into Formenton/Batherson and the world jr scandal?
More and more guys are coming out and clearing themselves. It’s down to 15 on the team that have not commented. Batherson deleted all his instagram photos of the event recently.

Any insight into Formenton/Batherson and the world jr scandal?
More and more guys are coming out and clearing themselves. It’s down to 15 on the team that have not commented. Batherson deleted all his instagram photos of the event recently.
- TurdFergeson

I wish I could comment on it, but due to legalities, etc.. as I am sure you know, I can't put out anything on there in regards to either player. Sorry.

Great article. If Formenton is a guy the Sens might move, I wonder if you get a bigger deal to nab both Chychryn and Keller. That said, I'd prefer to keep Formenton and move Brown but it's clear that Dorion likes to please DJ instead of players.

The Necas offer sheet tidbit is interesting. He's a quality player and a right hand shot. I wonder if they are thinking the cost would be in the range of 6.3 to 8.4 mill per which costs the signing team a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. A deal under 6.3 mill would cost the signing team a 1st and a 3rd. Lot of money for a guy hovering around the 40 point mark for 3 season.

Buyouts and moving bad contracts is vital for any big moves to occur. The moves that need to happen cost a lot of cash. I am not sold Dorion and co will pull that off.

Keep the tidbits coming!

Great article. If Formenton is a guy the Sens might move, I wonder if you get a bigger deal to nab both Chychryn and Keller. That said, I'd prefer to keep Formenton and move Brown but it's clear that Dorion likes to please DJ instead of players.

The Necas offer sheet tidbit is interesting. He's a quality player and a right hand shot. I wonder if they are thinking the cost would be in the range of 6.3 to 8.4 mill per which costs the signing team a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. A deal under 6.3 mill would cost the signing team a 1st and a 3rd. Lot of money for a guy hovering around the 40 point mark for 3 season.

Buyouts and moving bad contracts is vital for any big moves to occur. The moves that need to happen cost a lot of cash. I am not sold Dorion and co will pull that off.

The Formenton thing is interesting as I had a few in the org tell me that the vets weren't happy with how DJ handled the youth this year, right from Day one!

I also wonder if Colin White or Formenton were part of the Yotes package if they could snap both players in AZ! I am with you on that....totally agree.

The Necas RFA sheet, I don't think it would be above 5 million to be honest but then Ottawa gets a younger version of Connor Brown that they can develop too!

I actually had a few other things I wanted to write, but waiting to get clarification on some of the info. As it was the blog was long enough lol.

Keep the tidbits coming!
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Thanks for the kind words my friend!

The buyouts and bad contracts, in terms of how Dorion deals with them is paramount for the teams success this year!

JT Miller would be a great addition to Ottawa. Excellent player, who provides point production a bit of nastiness and quality veteran leadership.

I wish I could comment on it, but due to legalities, etc.. as I am sure you know, I can't put out anything on there in regards to either player. Sorry.
- Kevin Francis

Sure you can. Just use a disclaimer.

Just the sheer number of buyout candidates is more damning evidence as to what a poor GM Dorion is. How many other team have 3 or 4 players that are worthy of buyouts.

Lots to look forward to as far as the future of this team goes. But number one is new ownership that then brings in a real GM. That will be the springboard towards true success.

Great blog to launch blog week. Lots of meat to bite into.

Great blog to launch blog week. Lots of meat to bite into.
- spatso

Ya Kev, you crushed it again. Between you, Jacob and Zack, always a good read. Theo, Bill and Karin’s are solid too

JT Miller would be a great addition to Ottawa. Excellent player, who provides point production a bit of nastiness and quality veteran leadership.
- Reubenkincade

too old, too cost prohibitive to acquire and would ask for too much and too long, easy pass

Great article. If Formenton is a guy the Sens might move, I wonder if you get a bigger deal to nab both Chychryn and Keller. That said, I'd prefer to keep Formenton and move Brown but it's clear that Dorion likes to please DJ instead of players.

The Necas offer sheet tidbit is interesting. He's a quality player and a right hand shot. I wonder if they are thinking the cost would be in the range of 6.3 to 8.4 mill per which costs the signing team a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. A deal under 6.3 mill would cost the signing team a 1st and a 3rd. Lot of money for a guy hovering around the 40 point mark for 3 season.

Buyouts and moving bad contracts is vital for any big moves to occur. The moves that need to happen cost a lot of cash. I am not sold Dorion and co will pull that off.

Keep the tidbits coming!
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

no chance in hell OTT is giving a unprotected 2023 first for Necas in a offer sheet, it will be under the 1st rounder threshold if they offer sheet

To Ottawa:

- Keller
- Chychrun

To Phoenix:

- 2022 1st (7th overall)
- 2023 1st (top 5 protected)
- Tyler Boucher
- Connor Brown (Phoenix can flip him at the deadline. Perfect deadline acquisition for a contender.)
- Zaitsev
- One of JBD or Thomson


Thoughts?

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Stutzle - Keller
Formenton - Pinto - White
Gambrel - Kelly - Watson

Chabot - Zub
Chychrun - Sanderson
Brannstrom - Hamonic
Holden

ah yes, trade the fastest guy on your team that was tied for most SHG in 2022, in his first full NHL season, because the worst coach in NHL may not like him, that is excellent Gming there.

The sens sure have a bring future with dorion and dj in there, cup favorites next year for certain...

Bufallo called, they want their title of worst managed team in the NHL

I agree that a top 4 D is more important to Sens than a top 6 forward.

Could the Sens go all in on a package for both Chychrun and Keller. Their combined cap hit of $10.7m is doable for the Sens? Chychrun is now 220 lbs. Has always been a good skater and would be a great fit on Ottawa's blue line. His cap hit for the next 3 years is the same as the Zaitsev hit on the Ottawa cap.

Would not be happy to see Sens choose Connor Brown over Formenton. Both have great speed and are very responsible in their overall game. But Formenton has a much harder game and there is lots of evidence that would cause you to think he will become a 30 goal scorer.

To Ottawa:

- Keller
- Chychrun

To Phoenix:

- 2022 1st (7th overall)
- 2023 1st (top 5 protected)
- Tyler Boucher
- Connor Brown (Phoenix can flip him at the deadline. Perfect deadline acquisition for a contender.)
- Zaitsev
- One of JBD or Thomson


Thoughts?

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Stutzle - Keller
Formenton - Pinto - White
Gambrel - Kelly - Watson

Chabot - Zub
Chychrun - Sanderson
Brannstrom - Hamonic
Holden
- andyman998

as for 7th OA for Keller dorion better hope and pray to every god that has ever existed he continues his scoring from 2022 or that will be the worst trade in sens history, id only move 1 first for both, Keller is a massive risk of a gamble IMO, if he reverts bad to his poor production from the last 3 season, he would be a buyout candidate at 7.15M for 6 more years.

Also they wont move Sanderson to RD, problem with Chyrchrun is he is a left shot

I agree that a top 4 D is more important to Sens than a top 6 forward.

Could the Sens go all in on a package for both Chychrun and Keller. Their combined cap hit of $10.7m is doable for the Sens? Chychrun is now 220 lbs. Has always been a good skater and would be a great fit on Ottawa's blue line. His cap hit for the next 3 years is the same as the Zaitsev hit on the Ottawa cap.

Would not be happy to see Sens choose Connor Brown over Formenton. Both have great speed and are very responsible in their overall game. But Formenton has a much harder game and there is lots of evidence that would cause you to think he will become a 30 goal scorer.
- spatso

Formenton would cost less than Brown, tied first for SHG in 2022 in his Rookie year, he will be better than Brown real quick and be roughly 2m cheaper than Brown. (Brown wants ~5M, Formenton can be signed for ~ 3M)

Formenton would cost less than Brown, tied first for SHG in 2022 in his Rookie year, he will be better than Brown real quick and be roughly 2m cheaper than Brown. (Brown wants ~5M, Formenton can be signed for ~ 3M)
- Mithos

I think so.

Did Zaitsev just get paid a $2m bonus? Is it correct that his cap hit is $4.5m but the actual salary is only $2.5m for any team that takes him in a deal?

Still holding out hope that the Sens are able to pitch a successful package that ends up with their getting Dubois on a long term deal. It is clear that the Rangers and Canadiens are not in any position to be able to bid on Dubois at this time.

To Ottawa:

- Keller
- Chychrun

To Phoenix:

- 2022 1st (7th overall)
- 2023 1st (top 5 protected)
- Tyler Boucher
- Connor Brown (Phoenix can flip him at the deadline. Perfect deadline acquisition for a contender.)
- Zaitsev
- One of JBD or Thomson


Thoughts?

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Stutzle - Keller
Formenton - Pinto - White
Gambrel - Kelly - Watson

Chabot - Zub
Chychrun - Sanderson
Brannstrom - Hamonic
Holden
- andyman998

This proposal wins scariest idea of the "Nightmare Trades " category.

as for 7th OA for Keller dorion better hope and pray to every god that has ever existed he continues his scoring from 2022 or that will be the worst trade in sens history, id only move 1 first for both, Keller is a massive risk of a gamble IMO, if he reverts bad to his poor production from the last 3 season, he would be a buyout candidate at 7.15M for 6 more years.

Also they wont move Sanderson to RD, problem with Chyrchrun is he is a left shot
- Mithos

That would be a terrible trade even if Chychrun was a right shot.

as for 7th OA for Keller dorion better hope and pray to every god that has ever existed he continues his scoring from 2022 or that will be the worst trade in sens history, id only move 1 first for both, Keller is a massive risk of a gamble IMO, if he reverts bad to his poor production from the last 3 season, he would be a buyout candidate at 7.15M for 6 more years.

Also they wont move Sanderson to RD, problem with Chyrchrun is he is a left shot
- Mithos

Horrendous trade proposal.

Great article. If Formenton is a guy the Sens might move, I wonder if you get a bigger deal to nab both Chychryn and Keller. That said, I'd prefer to keep Formenton and move Brown but it's clear that Dorion likes to please DJ instead of players.

The Necas offer sheet tidbit is interesting. He's a quality player and a right hand shot. I wonder if they are thinking the cost would be in the range of 6.3 to 8.4 mill per which costs the signing team a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. A deal under 6.3 mill would cost the signing team a 1st and a 3rd. Lot of money for a guy hovering around the 40 point mark for 3 season.

Buyouts and moving bad contracts is vital for any big moves to occur. The moves that need to happen cost a lot of cash. I am not sold Dorion and co will pull that off.

Keep the tidbits coming!
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

You would need to be completely out of your friggin mind to take on that Keller contract. Moving Formenton is dumber than moving Brown but moving Paul was also pretty stupid. Now Tampa has him locked up for a little over 3 million. Dorion is the Ottawa version of Chiarelli and he and Smith are going to ruin this franchise's future if they are not fired tout suite.

What is it that DJ supposedly does not like about Formenton's game?

Formenton has good size, great wheels, he plays with an edge and he takes the body whenever he has an opportunity to hit somebody. He was often on the ice in key situations. He took a few hot head reaction penalties but he will learn to outgrow the reaction responses. Everything about Formenton's game strikes me as me as exactly the type of player both Dorion and DJ say they want.

Ottawa has three roster players out of the 2017 draft playing on their top 3 lines (Norris, Batherson and Formenton). I thought Formenton was the right age and part of core group going forward.

Is there something missing here?

You would need to be completely out of your friggin mind to take on that Keller contract. Moving Formenton is dumber than moving Brown but moving Paul was also pretty stupid. Now Tampa has him locked up for a little over million. Dorion is the Ottawa version of Chiarelli and he and Smith are going to ruin this franchise's future if they are not fired tout suite.
- Whatisavailable

Problem is Nick Paul and Connor Brown would combine for $8m on the cap. Love them both. But they are the wrong age and not a good fit for the Sen's compete window. If the Sens advance and Tampa begins their inevitable decline and rebuild...maybe the Sens take another look at Paul for playoff help.

Tampa committed $21 m. over 7 years. Crazy for the Sens to go there.

What is it that DJ supposedly does not like about Formenton's game?

Formenton has good size, great wheels, he plays with an edge and he takes the body whenever he has an opportunity to hit somebody. He was often on the ice in key situations. He took a few hot head reaction penalties but he will learn to outgrow the reaction responses. Everything about Formenton's game strikes me as me as exactly the type of player both Dorion and DJ say they want.

Ottawa has three roster players out of the 2017 draft playing on their top 3 lines (Norris, Batherson and Formenton). I thought Formenton was the right age and part of core group going forward.

Is there something missing here?
- spatso

On this I agree with you. What could possibly be the problem?