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Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Sep 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Parity is Dead — Who Are Buyers and Who Are Sellers This Season?

Wyshynski’s article:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...-where-going?platform=amp
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Sep 8 @ 9:01 PM ET
Great article!
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Sep 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
Great article!
- al3535


Thank you! This one took a lot of research.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Sep 8 @ 10:22 PM ET
Your list of bubble teams is obviously debatable. Also your number for the Wings cap space is wrong. Wings have 8.171 mil in cap space and that is with Fabbri on LTIR. Sure Walman and Pysyk will start on LTIR since they both underwent surgeries and will miss months of the season but that is only less than 2 million more although at some point they will be back. You also seem to not take into account roster spots. Wings for example already have a lot of players and that doesn't take into account for prospects pushing for roster spots.

The only way the Wings would take anyone would be if it would be a clear upgrade to the roster. Unless they are way out by the deadline (don't think it will be the case with all the additions), i can't see them taking on players they don't want for draft picks anymore. Wings were fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season until the wheels fell off and that was with a crappy coach, crappy defense (minus Seider), no 2nd line center worth a damn and no Vrana for the majority of the season. Yzerman made it clear he wants this team to be more competitive and not be a bottom dweller anymore. The same can be said for Ottawa.

I think both Wings and Sens are bubble teams now and their moves this summer proves it.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Sep 8 @ 10:40 PM ET
Thanks Trevor. Like the bubble team jab. That’s how I would have listed them.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Sep 8 @ 11:34 PM ET
Good read Trevor!

Go Flames! (frank) the Oil!
quinneroma
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.26.2015

Sep 8 @ 11:49 PM ET
Lots of hypothetical stuff. No Boston Bruins mentioned anywhere? They will have a lot of LTIR accrued via Marchand and McAvoy too. That will open up their ability to add. I consider Bos a bubble team+ with that roster. They are clearly all in with Bergeron and Krejci back, unless they are clearly out of it by Feb, and Bergeron okays a trade to a contender? That could be reminiscent of Ray Bourque !
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Sep 9 @ 12:23 AM ET
Your list of bubble teams is obviously debatable. Also your number for the Wings cap space is wrong. Wings have 8.171 mil in cap space and that is with Fabbri on LTIR. Sure Walman and Pysyk will start on LTIR since they both underwent surgeries and will miss months of the season but that is only less than 2 million more although at some point they will be back. You also seem to not take into account roster spots. Wings for example already have a lot of players and that doesn't take into account for prospects pushing for roster spots.

The only way the Wings would take anyone would be if it would be a clear upgrade to the roster. Unless they are way out by the deadline (don't think it will be the case with all the additions), i can't see them taking on players they don't want for draft picks anymore. Wings were fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season until the wheels fell off and that was with a crappy coach, crappy defense (minus Seider), no 2nd line center worth a damn and no Vrana for the majority of the season. Yzerman made it clear he wants this team to be more competitive and not be a bottom dweller anymore. The same can be said for Ottawa.

I think both Wings and Sens are bubble teams now and their moves this summer proves it.

- dcz28


Not sure about the Senators still. Their blue line is awful.

Chabot-Hamonic
Brannstrom-Zub
Sanderson-Zaitsev

Woof. Detroit’s is better, but not great. If Edvinsson makes the lineup, there will be growing pains. Lalonde might be a great coach, but 312 goals against last year implies there are a lot of bad habits to iron out of the core players. That takes time. The most any playoff team had scored against them last season was the Wild at 253.

Double checked the cap on it. Capfriendly has the current 23 man roster at 74,382,899.

FORWARDS $42,035,000
DEFENSE $16,363,333
GOALIES $7,750,000
INJURED RESERVE $4,000,000 (Only Fabbri)
DEAD CAP 1,375,000
BUYOUT HISTORY 2,805,556

Adds up to $74328889

What I did in the piece was factor in the LTIR relief after the season begins. Even if Fabbri was listed on LTIR, which he is currently not at least on capfriendly, his salary would be added to the team’s cap hit during the offseason. Once he is added to the LTIR pool, an extra four million will become available until his return. Hence the $12,171,111.

Roster spots: 13 forwards, 8 defence, 2 goalies. 23 players. Maximum 23 man roster. I didn’t realize Pysyk and Walman are LTIR-bound. Definitely good to know. That may be the opening for rookies you mentioned.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Sep 9 @ 12:38 AM ET
Lots of hypothetical stuff. No Boston Bruins mentioned anywhere? They will have a lot of LTIR accrued via Marchand and McAvoy too. That will open up their ability to add. I consider Bos a bubble team+ with that roster. They are clearly all in with Bergeron and Krejci back, unless they are clearly out of it by Feb, and Bergeron okays a trade to a contender? That could be reminiscent of Ray Bourque !
- quinneroma


How did the Bruins evade me? Will factor them in tomorrow. Appreciate you pointing that out.
Slappywaggle
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.20.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:17 AM ET
I'll start with great piece but I must be in crazy land. Flames contenders? Pretty sure they got worse. Little Jenny and Turtle boy flying the coop but were better players than Hubby and Mr. Suspension will be on that team. Be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 9 @ 2:09 AM ET
I'll start with great piece but I must be in crazy land. Flames contenders? Pretty sure they got worse. Little Jenny and Turtle boy flying the coop but were better players than Hubby and Mr. Suspension will be on that team. Be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
- Slappywaggle


It might go down as the off-season that sank the team, but for at least the next year or two the Flames are better. He played in Florida so was kind of off the radar, but Weegar might be better than any defenceman the Flames had last year. The Flames now have four defencemen better than Nurse.

I’m curious if you’ve ever seen Campbell play if you think the Oilers got better. He’s not an upgrade over Smith. He folded playing behind a much better team. What do you thinks going to happen playing behind the awful Oilers defence?

The Flames are vastly superior to the Oilers in net, on defence, and on every line but the top line. How do you expect the Oilers to compete with that?
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Sep 9 @ 9:05 AM ET
This blog is funny.

A lot of good information but most likely all to distract that the blogger is an immense Flames fanboys with delusions of grandeur.

Flames team falls apart and then gets cobbled back together with some straight up incredible GMING... But... Let's face it, the coach said it best after the Oilers whipped them in the playoffs.

That Flames team wasn't even supposed to make the playoffs. Expecting them to make it this next year is a crap shoot at best. That top line drug that team into the playoffs with magic and desperation... chemistry? You can't expect the Flames to even make the playoffs let alone call them a contender....

And the aforementioned Pacific Division Champs that obviously got better and we're already expected to make the playoffs are the bubble team.

Rotflmao.
donniec
Edmonton Oilers
Location: booneville, KY
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Flames contenders and Oilers pretenders? That’s funny I guess you didn’t watch the playoffs and oh by the way the flames got rid of their 2 best players and downgraded while the same Oilers team that smacked the flames out of the playoffs got better imo.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Sep 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Parity is Dead — Who Are Buyers and Who Are Sellers This Season?

Wyshynski’s article:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...-where-going?platform=amp

- Trevor_Neufeld_

Well Todd! You hit a nerve haha well done!!!

Typical September Cup Parade planning by Oilers fanboys. Maybe they dont realize that they dont accrue cap space when using LTIR & they are using a lot of LTIR to comply. Heaven help them if they get hit with the injury bug. I guess there is a reason they play the games. Markstrom may have sucked balls against the Oilers in the playoffs, but he didnt against the majority other teams. It happens. But Markstrom is light years better than Campbell.

The scenario being outlined here are just the unintended consequences of a Cap league on steroids due to the lock downs & no fans the last few years. Like a bad kidney stone it shall pass as well.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Sep 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
Well Todd! You hit a nerve haha well done!!!

Typical September Cup Parade planning by Oilers fanboys. Maybe they dont realize that they dont accrue cap space when using LTIR & they are using a lot of LTIR to comply. Heaven help them if they get hit with the injury bug. I guess there is a reason they play the games. Markstrom may have sucked balls against the Oilers in the playoffs, but he didnt against the majority other teams. It happens. But Markstrom is light years better than Campbell.

The scenario being outlined here are just the unintended consequences of a Cap league on steroids due to the lock downs & no fans the last few years. Like a bad kidney stone it shall pass as well.

- Kevin R

No, no, no... don't state facts and fancy stats... its irrelevant in discussions. Jack Campbell will win the Vezina, Nurse the Norris, Kane the Jack Adams... Oilers the Cup and the Flames will get sold back to Atlanta.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Sep 9 @ 12:40 PM ET
Not sure about the Senators still. Their blue line is awful.

Chabot-Hamonic
Brannstrom-Zub
Sanderson-Zaitsev

Woof. Detroit’s is better, but not great. If Edvinsson makes the lineup, there will be growing pains. Lalonde might be a great coach, but 312 goals against last year implies there are a lot of bad habits to iron out of the core players. That takes time. The most any playoff team had scored against them last season was the Wild at 253.

Double checked the cap on it. Capfriendly has the current 23 man roster at 74,382,899.

FORWARDS $42,035,000
DEFENSE $16,363,333
GOALIES $7,750,000
INJURED RESERVE $4,000,000 (Only Fabbri)
DEAD CAP 1,375,000
BUYOUT HISTORY 2,805,556

Adds up to $74328889

What I did in the piece was factor in the LTIR relief after the season begins. Even if Fabbri was listed on LTIR, which he is currently not at least on capfriendly, his salary would be added to the team’s cap hit during the offseason. Once he is added to the LTIR pool, an extra four million will become available until his return. Hence the $12,171,111.

Roster spots: 13 forwards, 8 defence, 2 goalies. 23 players. Maximum 23 man roster. I didn’t realize Pysyk and Walman are LTIR-bound. Definitely good to know. That may be the opening for rookies you mentioned.

- Trevor_Neufeld_


Can't see Brannstrom being in the Sens top 4. Either Sanderson will earn that spot or Holden will get it imo. They should be better offensively with their additions and Talbot over Murray should be an improvement. Murray was a trainwreck for them aside from a small stretch of games per season.

As for the Wings, their defense is somewhat improved on paper. Blashill had a horrible defensive system and he made things even worst by playing DeKeyser top pair minutes with Seider. The fact nobody has signed DeKeyser for even league minimum says something. On top of that Blashill in his infinite wisdom, paired Leddy with Hronek. Two players not known to be good in their own end on the same pair in the top 4. That ended with both players being -30 something but yet he never split them up. Personally i wish Yzerman had made a trade for someone like Sanheim or Theodore to play with Seider and have Chiarot play with Hronek, Maata with Lindstrom. They also had Greiss as a backup that couldn't stop a beach ball and had to overplay Ned. Now they have Husso to split time with him.

Some of the Wings problems were also special teams which both sucked. New coaches should help that also but they also added UFAs to help with that in Perron, Copp and Kubalik for the PP (also having Vrana for the season will help). Guys like Copp, Chiarot and Maata should help some with the PK. They also signed Robert Hagg as soon as they learned Pysyk would be out for months...yet another option for their defense.

Personally, i don't think Edvinsson makes the team. A lot of fans have him in the top 4 right off the bat but i don't think he makes it. I think Johansson or Sebrango have better shots at making it than he does but i said Berggren had a better shot to make it over Raymond last season and i was wrong about that.

Overall i do think the Wings are a bubble team. They might not make the playoffs but they should be able to fight for until until the end of the season i think. I won't be too angry if things go off the rails and they end up with a good pick again though but i expect them to draft outside the top 10 now.

You were right about the cap space. I calculate it all and even though they have Fabbri on IR on capfriendly, they count his salary on the cap. Capfriendly should do something to clear that up by maybe putting his salary in a different color or something to show he listed as LTIR but his salary is counting until they actually put him on LTIR.
Leichs
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.04.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
You Flamers talk a lot of smack about the Oilers considering you just got taken to the woodshed only a few short months ago. You guys got worse BTW and the Oil got better. “We ArE sUpErIoR iN eVeRyWaY eXcEpT tHe ToP LiNe durrrrrrrrrr”. It wasn’t just the top line that slapped you around in 5 games. Ask Hyman. Enjoy 32 year old 45 point Kadri for 7 years.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Sep 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Parity is Dead — Who Are Buyers and Who Are Sellers This Season?

Wyshynski’s article:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...-where-going?platform=amp

- Trevor_Neufeld_


I personally think agents are the problem. If they weren’t forcing bad contracts down GM’s throat all the time with threats of walking or such then 2/3 of the league wouldn’t have the awful contracts they have and there would be cap room and no escrow.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Sep 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
This blog is funny.

A lot of good information but most likely all to distract that the blogger is an immense Flames fanboys with delusions of grandeur.

Flames team falls apart and then gets cobbled back together with some straight up incredible GMING... But... Let's face it, the coach said it best after the Oilers whipped them in the playoffs.

That Flames team wasn't even supposed to make the playoffs. Expecting them to make it this next year is a crap shoot at best. That top line drug that team into the playoffs with magic and desperation... chemistry? You can't expect the Flames to even make the playoffs let alone call them a contender....

And the aforementioned Pacific Division Champs that obviously got better and we're already expected to make the playoffs are the bubble team.

Rotflmao.

- Aerchon


Sorry, man. It seems well out of fan’s minds at the moment, but the Oilers were an imploding team for much of the year. They were in 19th place as of February 1st. That potential to collapse in on themselves has always been present and makes me hesitant to call them a contender.

Questions surround the shelf life of a rookie coach, the reconstruction of their best defenceman’s hip after playing weeks with a torn hip flexor, and Jack Campbell.

Campbell had a great start and then reverted to the median sub .900.

Sv%
October: GP: 7 Sv%: 918% GAA: 2.31
November: GP: 11 Sv%: .959% GAA: 1.27
December-April: GP: 31 Sv%: 896% GAA: 3.22

He carried that on in the playoffs.

Vs Tampa
GP: 7 Sv%: .897 GAA: 3.15

Not sold on him. Campbell has only found success in short intervals. An indicator that he isn’t ideal as a starting goalie. Now he’s likely signed for longer than Holland will be GM.

I do agree that the Pacific Division champs last season got better though. It’s nice to find common ground.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Flames contenders and Oilers pretenders? That’s funny I guess you didn’t watch the playoffs and oh by the way the flames got rid of their 2 best players and downgraded while the same Oilers team that smacked the flames out of the playoffs got better imo.
- donniec

While happy the Oil trounced the over-rated Markstrom and Tanev in the PO's they actually got better with Huberdeau and Kadri. Johnny Hockey and Tkachuk largely disappeared in PO's. Huberdeau and Kadri won't guaranteed. Pains me to say it but CGY won't be as big of a pushover for the Oil this PO's. In fact...it would be best to Avoid them. Still think the Oil would get past them but a much much tougher series.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Sep 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
While happy the Oil trounced the over-rated Markstrom and Tanev in the PO's they actually got better with Huberdeau and Kadri. Johnny Hockey and Tkachuk largely disappeared in PO's. Huberdeau and Kadri won't guaranteed. Pains me to say it but CGY won't be as big of a pushover for the Oil this PO's. In fact...it would be best to Avoid them. Still think the Oil would get past them but a much much tougher series.
- LordHumungous


Huberdeau is not a physical player and Kadri will get himself suspended again.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Sep 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
Sorry, man. It seems well out of fan’s minds at the moment, but the Oilers were an imploding team for much of the year. They were in 19th place as of February 1st. That potential to collapse in on themselves has always been present and makes me hesitant to call them a contender.

Questions surround the shelf life of a rookie coach, the reconstruction of their best defenceman’s hip after playing weeks with a torn hip flexor, and Jack Campbell.

Campbell had a great start and then reverted to the median sub .900.

Sv%
October: GP: 7 Sv%: 918% GAA: 2.31
November: GP: 11 Sv%: .959% GAA: 1.27
December-April: GP: 31 Sv%: 896% GAA: 3.22

He carried that on in the playoffs.

Vs Tampa
GP: 7 Sv%: .897 GAA: 3.15

Not sold on him. Campbell has only found success in short intervals. An indicator that he isn’t ideal as a starting goalie. Now he’s likely signed for longer than Holland will be GM.

I do agree that the Pacific Division champs last season got better though. It’s nice to find common ground.

- Trevor_Neufeld_


Disagree with your take on the Oil (aside from Campbell being a complete question mark). A full year of Woodcroft, Kane, and Kulak alone make them a much better team than last year, and only spotlights your statement about how bad/inconstant they were until Feb. That said, I think Calgary is also a better team now than they were last year, assuming the new players gel into the lineup quick. Should be a fun season again.

Turd is right about agents being the biggest problem, guaranteed they are a huge factor in guys like Nurse getting overpaid by a couple mil per season. So many stupid GM's out there that end up caving to ridiculous demands.
Fan the Flame
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 03.06.2022

Sep 9 @ 5:38 PM ET

I think Phil Kessell would have been a great unrestricted free agent signing for the
Flames.
Apparently the Flames were in the running, but he ended up in Vegas for only $1.5 mil.
Kessell despite his look is one of the leagues strongest players in the weight room and still capable of good point production.
I don't know if more money would have turned the tide but Vegas definitely got a bargain.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
Huberdeau is not a physical player and Kadri will get himself suspended again.
- wreckage

Changes nothing. They are better now without Turtlechuk and Johnny Hockey. Time will show.
Hockeyfan4life14
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.23.2019

Sep 9 @ 7:58 PM ET
What most fans don’t understand is GMs do t give a poop about year 5-8 of long contracts because if they don’t win in the first 1-4 they will be fired !!!! There job is to win and win now !! Flames are way better today then when playoffs ended ! And of Sutter wasn’t such a hard head valimaki and Mackey would have been playing instead of seriously injured Tanave and zadorov !!! Flames have a great window right now for 3-4 years and no they don’t need another forward they need to give some farm guys a shot !!!! No team wins without promotion from within
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