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moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
It typically is... when the Hawks are playing and when there are rumors. I don't comment too much on here, but definitely follow it daily. This offseason of no moves and no rumors has caused a lot of bickering on here, just tearing down the Hawks front office. But it is frustrating as a fan to sit here and see a 2nd one and done and do nothing about it. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." That is exactly what they Hawks front office is doing. The prospects will help, we like our top 6... its insane.

Now on the other hand, Bowman's received a little worse rap this offseason than I think he deserves. I agree things need to change and he is not doing anything, but it's over the top in my opinion. Before the playoffs, there was discussion that this would be a very quiet offseason for us because of the upcoming CBA. I expected it to be quiet (although not this quiet). The Hawks never really had a shot at Parise/Suter, maybe Suter more, but never believed it would happen, just hoped. And then there was speculation/rumors that the Hawks were putting a huge push on them both. The Hawks got brought back into that bidding war and since we didnt sign them, he missed out. But looking at it from the outside, did he ever have a chance? I think the same thing is being created with this Doan situation. Do we really expect Doan to sign with the Hawks? Are we creating our own hype and going to get angry if we are let down?

Yes, I am angry the Hawks have done nothing. If the rumors are true, I absolutely blame Bowman for FA's not wanting to come here. But the non-rumors, the CBA, and the self-created hype of Parise/Suter only added to the disappointment.

So I'll go back to what we were originally talking about, with all of this adding into thousands of posts, people are sensitive and have caused cool heads to become hot. Like this

- HawksHype




The question when I read this is 'why?... why do the hawks not stand a chance to land a top free agent?'
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 29 @ 10:13 PM ET
JJ, you must have completely mixed up the posts. When I said "that last statement couldnt be further from the truth" I was talking about you saying I couldn't handle any criticism towards the front office. I think you thought I was referring to your post about companies having interns monitoring the sites/blogs. After you said that you then went on to say companies do employ that practice. So, I think youre mixing up the points here.

I never commented on that practice nor did I ever say a single thing good or bad about the front office EXCEPT what Bowman did in the 2010 offseason. You have no idea what I think of the front office outside of the 2010 offseason. Maybe before attacking and criticizing you should reread the posts.

This is all a moot point anyway. You'll take another stance if we acquire Doan or have a 3 game winning streak to start the season.

- Bhawks35


You're right and you'll be steadfast in your defense of Stanley and the One Goal Party Line. Bet the mortgage on it.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:17 PM ET
Very well said, bud.

I agree with you on a lot of what you just said. I think Bowman does deserve a lot of criticism. My biggest problem with him was his lack of movement at the deadline this past season. I kinda give him a pass in 10/11 bc of the blowup but this season the West was wide open and the Hawks had a better shot than most to come out of it. He did nothing to bring in the assets to make that a realistic shot. Although, I do think the whole one and done talk is a bit ridiculous. If crow makes a cpl more saves we could have beaten the yotes. It is also all about matchups in the playoffs. If this team as constructed goes in and faces the canucks and detroit in the playoffs we could easily find ourselves in the WCF.

I just think there has to be some sense of balance and prudence in the evaluation of Bowman. Not everything he has ever done has been the worst move a GM could make. On the same note, if he went ahead and signed Suter and Parise (like JJ reported he was close to doing) the bad things he has done shouldn't be forgotten either.

Some semblance of balance would be nice.

- Bhawks35


more important than balance and prudence imo is time. How much time you gonna give bowman before you (or more importantly Rocky) decide he's terrible at the job he was hired to do? His second offense to me was the nine game skid. Q should have been fired then.... yet he is still the coach. Maybe I'm just impatient.... but then again incompetence to me is intolerable.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 29 @ 10:18 PM ET
What about Q ?

My views on the following are

Bowman...want him to do well, but don't like how he got the job.

McDonough....just know we NEVER WON a Cup in my life 'til the marketing/business guru came on board.

Kane...he'd be a franchise guy on most teams...but he's mercurial and the off ice crud doesn't help...but FFS..he's still a kid.

And Q...my favourite Hawks coach in my life.....but understand the views of those that don't agree.

- philco28


See, I've been pretty "balanced" about Q and Scotty, but the One Goalers don't cite that. Just the "negative," "cynical" stuff.

See the pattern?

Tired of the b.s.. For guys who claim to be "consistent" and "balanced," umm, ya aren't.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:19 PM ET

are we there yet.....
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:19 PM ET
A GM shouldn't be judged by what he doesn't do wrong, he should be judged on what he does right and what he does to improve his team.
- HawksHype

John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 29 @ 10:21 PM ET
You wouldn't know bc you have no idea who any of those players or prospects were we got in return. You've been a hockey fan since 2010 remember?

But you're right. JJ must be a moron bc he went on record saying Bowman did a great job that offseason. An NHL gm must be a moron bc he said those trades were great being Bowman had no leverage.

I don't know who you blindly follow being someone who can't come up with anything on your own..but there are two options for you that thought that one offseason bowman did a good job.

He did nothing since then basically, but we aren't talking about that are we?

- Bhawks35


This post has been reported. Apparently, this is directed at yet someone else other than me.

You're here to stir things up. Nothing more. You guys need better "training."
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:29 PM ET
Ogi...thanks for your thoughts!
- ArlingtonRob


I just wish he wouldn't waffle and windsock so much.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:31 PM ET
I knew you wouldn't let me down

Said it before...folks on this board are free to disagree about everything...but the one thing that unites us is...we're hard core fans of THEE Chicago Blackhawks.

- philco28


Oooh - except the baby.

And the odd Canuck and Sabre fan.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 10:36 PM ET
I just wish he wouldn't waffle and windsock so much.
- StLBravesFan

Whaaaaat? Windsock maybe, but Waffle? Me?
Bhawks35
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.31.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:00 PM ET
This post has been reported. Apparently, this is directed at yet someone else other than me.

You're here to stir things up. Nothing more. You guys need better "training."

- John Jaeckel


I believe that was to a poster that jumped down my throat for a stance that he didn't agree with. Nor was he ever involved in the conversation. He just decided to attack me. I was simply reacting to him. But, I suppose we are allowed to be negative towards others we just cant react to the negativity. Well done, JJ

And are you so arrogant to think that one person who doesn't agree with you here has to be from the Blackhawks? Is it that absurd for someone to think you're wrong about something? You have shown such ignorance and unprofessionalism today it's scary. You have jumped down my throat bc I said Bowman did ONE thing well. You have then proceeded to ignore my other posts explaining all the things I think Bowman is at fault for. You then go on and say I do nothing but tote the company line.

You have also decided to ignore everything we were discussing that started all this and chose to exaggerate and harp on literally ONE comment I made about Stan. I said just as many things negatively about him that I did positively for him. But, I'm an apologist and I now work for the Blackhawks lol. I guess if I were you though and I pointed out numerous things you have flip flopped on I guess I'd choose to ignore them too.
Your ignorance is only overshadowed by your ego.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 11:03 PM ET
I believe that was to a poster that jumped down my throat for a stance that he didn't agree with. Nor was he ever involved in the conversation. He just decided to attack me. I was simply reacting to him. But, I suppose we are allowed to be negative towards others we just cant react to the negativity. Well done, JJ

And are you so arrogant to think that one person who doesn't agree with you here has to be from the Blackhawks? Is it that absurd for someone to think you're wrong about something? You have shown such ignorance and unprofessionalism today it's scary. You have jumped down my throat bc I said Bowman did ONE thing well. You have then proceeded to ignore my other posts explaining all the things I think Bowman is at fault for. You then go on and say I do nothing but tote the company line.

You have also decided to ignore everything we were discussing that started all this and chose to exaggerate and harp on literally ONE comment I made about Stan. I said just as many things negatively about him that I did positively for him. But, I'm an apologist and I now work for the Blackhawks lol. I guess if I were you though and I pointed out numerous things you have flip flopped on I guess I'd chose to ignore them too.
Your ignorance is only overshadowed by your ego.

- Bhawks35



philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:04 PM ET
See, I've been pretty "balanced" about Q and Scotty, but the One Goalers don't cite that. Just the "negative," "cynical" stuff.

See the pattern?

Tired of the b.s.. For guys who claim to be "consistent" and "balanced," umm, ya aren't.

- John Jaeckel



Nice JJ...i pride myself on consistency...and i'm pro Q, pro Sharp, pro McD, Anti Bowman....was VERY pro C2...but he really let Hawk nation down this past playoff...
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:06 PM ET
Oooh - except the baby.

And the odd Canuck and Sabre fan.

- StLBravesFan


Who's the baby ?
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:10 PM ET
Nice JJ...i pride myself on consistency...and i'm pro Q, pro Sharp, pro McD, Anti Bowman....was VERY pro C2...but he really let Hawk nation down this past playoff...
- philco28



Whaaaaat. Pro McD......say it ain't so philco....
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:14 PM ET
Nice JJ...i pride myself on consistency...and i'm pro Q, pro Sharp, pro McD, Anti Bowman....was VERY pro C2...but he really let Hawk nation down this past playoff...
- philco28


I hope Crawford has a good year.....
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:16 PM ET
Who's the baby ?
- philco28


A Jimmy Fallon commercial for a credit card reference.

Apparently, not a very good one.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 11:17 PM ET
I hope Crawford has a good year.....
- southernhawk

I do too, but I'd feel a lot better about gambling on a bounce back year from Corey if we had a stud prospect waiting in the wings in Rockord.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:20 PM ET
I do too, but I'd feel a lot better about gambling on a bounce back year from Corey if we had a stud prospect waiting in the wings in Rockord.
- Ogilthorpe2



What's the word on the Hutton kid didn't he send salak packing??
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:21 PM ET
A Jimmy Fallon commercial for a credit card reference.

Apparently, not a very good one.

- StLBravesFan


The one that doesn't want cash back
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:26 PM ET
The one that doesn't want cash back
- southernhawk


That's the one.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:27 PM ET
Whaaaaat. Pro McD......say it ain't so philco....
- southernhawk


SoHawk...sorry bro...but we never won SH ! T until McCub came along. He's good at what he does and i sincerely believe his karma was helpful to the organization FINALLY realizing the ONE GOAL in 2010.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:30 PM ET
SoHawk...sorry bro...but never won SH ! T until McCub came along. He's good at what he does and i sincerely believe his karma was helpful to the organization FINALLY realizing the ONE GOAL in 2010.
- philco28


I give more credit to DT but you are right he was there when it happened.....i just don't trust the guy...there something off with him
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:31 PM ET
A Jimmy Fallon commercial for a credit card reference.

Apparently, not a very good one.

- StLBravesFan


LOL...sorry i wasn't following..but thanks for clarifying
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 11:37 PM ET
I give more credit to DT but you are right he was there when it happened.....i just don't trust the guy...there something off with him
- southernhawk


I will agree..he's a slippery PHUCK...most finger in the wind marketing a s s holes are...but his instincts to me...are pretty phucking good. When the Hawks visited Walter Reed last year in the their swing through D.C....i was like....PHUCK YEAH...the Chicago Blackhawks from my POV have always been very patriotic...the '91 AS game anthem being an amazing example...and then all the vets who flank Jimmy C during anthems...AMAZING...and i think McD has a big role in arranging all that.
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