I'd be SHOCKED if Q goes before Bum Man Jr. One has given his life to the game and one is a FRAUD. Therefore, i'd hope Q OUTLASTS the Golden Dummy as he should by rights.
- philco28

Not a Bowman apologist, but he gave Q the rope this year to hang himself. Q will do that. Stanley will be next. I think he gets to hire his own guy before he falls.

Doesn't matter. Coaches job is to do the best he can with the players he's given. For the past 2 seasons, Q gets an F in that regard.

Stan gets no free pass from me either. I think he should be gone too.
- Ogilthorpe2

Q's never missed the playoffs with us...won a Cup in his 1st year....had the team TORN APART due to the cap realities after that one year.

Next year, fell behind 3-0 without Bolland, ,rallied and nearly stole G7 against a team that rep'd the West in the Cup

Then last year, we should have beat Phx if not for C2 growing a wussy...

Q's not perfect but he got us farther in the last 3 years than anyone wants to give him credit for.

Good point and Sutter immediately pulled some guys like Jordan Nolan and Dwight King up from the AHL to give them size up front. And he got world class goaltending in the playoffs from Quick all season long or they don't even make the playoffs.

How did it work out for Boudreau in Anaheim, Carlyle in Toronto, the guy in Montreal, Richards in Columbus?
- RickJ

Lavy was a replacement coach in 2010. Look what Hitchcock did for st Louis. LA this last season. Didn't Anaheim start to tear it up with Boudreau but were too far out to get back in the playoffs? Look Q may be a good coach but his shelf life in Chicago has expired. The team hasn't bought into him for a while now... they look miserable out there on the ice. Special teams are a joke. Also as GM you have two choices when things aren't going your teams way..... fire the coach or fire (trade) the players. The coach is always the easiest and Stan can't even do that.

Edit.... everything bhawks & ogie said

Bogie...i know you're joking....to me Alpo was PHUCKING USELESS....and hired by a TWAT that couldn't tie a tie or PHUCKING comb his hair. END OF STORY. What a sorry episode in Tomahawk history when those two KNOBS were calling the shots.
- philco28

Q's never missed the playoffs with us...won a Cup in his 1st year....had the team TORN APART due to the cap realities after that one year.

Next year, fell behind 3-0 without Bolland, ,rallied and nearly stole G7 against a team that rep'd the West in the Cup

Then last year, we should have beat Phx if not for C2 growing a wussy...

Q's not perfect but he got us farther in the last 3 years than anyone wants to give him credit for.
- philco28

Good points.....But back to this season...if we can't get Doan then I think Morin, or Beach need the shot...i know about there injury problems but do they not bring more of what we need in a top 6 roll than Saad....

I think Q and Blowman have 2 different views on how this team should look....its only a matter of time till one is gone...doesn't matter if they win or not...if they win Q will leave on top ..if they loose he'll be shown the door...

Here's a look at 30 of the top UFAs still on the market:



FORWARDS



NAME

2011-12 TEAM

STATS

SKINNY



Shane Doan

Phoenix

79 GP 22-28-50

Longtime Coyotes captain has started talking to other teams but is still not in any hurry to leave the only franchise he's ever played for



Kristian Huselius

Columbus

2 GP 0-0-0

Injuries wiped out most of 2010-11 and almost all of last season for 33-year-old after he averaged 26 goals from 2006-07 through 2009-10



Jason Arnott

St. Louis

72 GP 17-17-34

He's now 37 and isn't the offensive force he used to be, but the 400-goal scorer is still capable of providing points and leadership



Tom Kostopoulos

Calgary

81 GP 4-8-12

Feisty fourth-line forward gives everything he's got, will stand up for teammates and even contribute a little bit offensively



Mike Knuble

Washington

72 GP 6-12-18

40-year-old forward looking for a new home after dropping from 24 goals in '10-11 to six this past season



Tomas Holmstrom

Detroit

74 GP 11-13-24

The 39-year-old isn't the scoring force he once was, but he remains an unmovable force in front of the net on the power play



Andrew Brunette

Chicago

78 GP 12-15-27

Soon-to-be 39-year-old may have a tough time finding a new home; he scored only 12 goals and 27 points last season after scoring 22, 25 and 18 goals in the previous three seasons



Jason Blake

Anaheim

45 GP 7-5-12

Now 38, Blake is coming off a serious injury and his worst offensive season in a decade



Mathieu Darche

Montreal

61 GP 5-7-12

Late-blooming 35-year-old's offensive production dropped sharply in '11-12



Jochen Hecht

Buffalo

22 GP 4-4-8

35-year-old German is a reliable checker who can contribute offensively but missed most of last season with concussion-related problems



Brian Rolston

Boston

70 GP 7-17-24

The 39-year-old was reinvigorated when he landed with the Bruins last season, scoring 15 points in 21 games



Daymond Langkow

Phoenix

73 GP 11-19-30

35-year-old center has 1,090 NHL games and 270 goals on his resume, but is no longer a top-six forward



Dominic Moore

San Jose

79 GP 4-21-25

Veteran center turns 32 in August; could be headed for 10th NHL team. He's still useful as a role player in the right situation.



Radek Dvorak

Dallas

73 GP 4-17-21

Still a useful third-liner and checker who can contribute a little offense as he approaches 1,200 games played



Petr Sykora

New Jersey

82 GP 21-23-44

Made Devils at camp and proved his scoring touch hadn't disappeared




DEFENSEMEN



NAME

2011-12 TEAM

STATS

SKINNY



Brett Clark

Tampa Bay

82 GP 2-13-15

Points dropped from 31 to 15; minus-26 rating was also a big drop from 2010-11. But he blocked 199 shots and even at 35 is still useful as bottom-pair defenseman.



Carlo Colaiacovo

St. Louis

64 GP 2-17-19

Solid second-pair defenseman who can move puck well but has had injury problems



Matt Gilroy

Ottawa

67 GP 3-17-20

2009 Hobey Baker winner has nice offensive skills but has yet to turn them into a regular berth on an NHL blue line



Jaroslav Spacek

Carolina

46 GP 5-10-15

Big blueliner still possess a big shot, and is reliable defensively - plus-64 last seven seasons



Pavel Kubina

Philadelphia

69 GP 3-12-15

Not the offensive force he was when he was younger, but still has size and a big shot



Michal Rozsival

Phoenix

54 GP 1-12-13

Hampered by injuries last two seasons and no longer a big offensive force, but solid in his own zone



Scott Hannan

Calgary

78 GP 2-10-12

Never a big offensive force, but OK in own zone and can still play 20 minutes a night



Steve Eminger

N.Y. Rangers

42 GP 2-3-5

2002 first-rounder was effective third-pair defender before injuries hit



Kurtis Foster

Minnesota

51 GP 4-10-14

Big shot but has never matched offensive numbers he put up with Tampa Bay in '09-10



Milan Jurcina

N.Y. Islanders

65 GP 3-8-11

Big guy with a big shot but coming off career-worst minus-34 season with Isles




GOALIES



NAME

2011-12 TEAM

STATS

SKINNY



Dan Ellis

Anaheim

1-5-0, 2.72 GAA

Veteran backup lost much of last season due to injury



Alex Auld

Ottawa

2-4-2, 3.35 GAA

Well-traveled backup looking for his ninth NHL home



Ty Conklin

Detroit

5-6-1, 3.28 GAA

36-year-old lost his backup job in Detroit last season and figures to have trouble finding a new team



Dwayne Roloson

Tampa Bay

13-16-3, 3.66 GAA

Coming off worst season of career and has to show he has something left in the tank at age 42



Brent Johnson

Pittsburgh

6-7-2, 3.11 GAA

35-year-old backup is coming off injury and might have to scramble in tight market

Q's never missed the playoffs with us...won a Cup in his 1st year....had the team TORN APART due to the cap realities after that one year.

Next year, fell behind 3-0 without Bolland, ,rallied and nearly stole G7 against a team that rep'd the West in the Cup

Then last year, we should have beat Phx if not for C2 growing a wussy...

Q's not perfect but he got us farther in the last 3 years than anyone wants to give him credit for.
- philco28

Q took over during the 2008-9 season, faltered in the playoffs when he got outcoached in the Wings series. The year we picked up Pauhlson (another gamble - injured and coming off of mono - poor move by Tallon, SB and Q) and Walker saw lots of time.

No, actually Brouwer was the net presence and I screamed when he was traded. I can play Monday morning QB on any decision I want, that's what fans do. I Didn't like that trade then, I don't like it now...and I blame Q just as much as Stan for that one. Trading the one player who most closely resembled a top 6 power forward for a daft pick, and then attempting to replace that skill set with an over the hill, has been, who's as slow as John Scott and not even half as physical as Troy Brouwer was an Epic Failure on both Stan and Q's part. Q for running Brouwer out of town, and Stan for letting it happen and then for believing that Brunette was a viable alternative.

(frank) Stan.
(frank) Q.

They both should be in the unemployment line.
- Ogilthorpe2

epic failure by SB and Q. Initially when the trade went down, i thought Brunette could be a good set of hands around the net and on the pp and finish some plays that Brouwer couldn't. But Brunette is a dead man. We also missed Brouwer on the pk. But this is all on Q. Also Q not playing Frolik and Lepisto more, instead we got more Brunette and Scott. Also when both Lepisto and Morrison got more time, they both played better. But they really looked shaky in the minimal shifts early on - and it was like WTF!!!!! Also Montador did not look comfortable out there and OD, hmmmmm. Also Leddy wasn't ready and the movement of Campbell was a joke. Another bad move by SB.

Q took over during the 2008-9 season, faltered in the playoffs when he got outcoached in the Wings series. The year we picked up Pauhlson (another gamble - injured and coming off of mono - poor move by Tallon, SB and Q) and Walker saw lots of time.
- Topshelf2010

NEVER

Dale Tallon is a saint!

Wisniewski for Pahlsson with mono.

If Corey Crawford lets in 2 A S S HOLED sized goals...is that Q's fault ?
- philco28

I'm not a Crawford supporter, and those two goals were disasters, but:

Hawks sorted 12 goals in 6 games - three of them in mad scrambles, 6 on 5, with a minute or less left.

I think one PP goalnin the 6 games.

Offense was basically non existent - certainly not much to say they would have won those two games anyways.

Not a Bowman apologist, but he gave Q the rope this year to hang himself. Q will do that. Stanley will be next. I think he gets to hire his own guy before he falls.
- djd

Brookbank is rope?

Brookbank is rope?
- StLBravesFan

Kompon.

Q's never missed the playoffs with us...won a Cup in his 1st year....had the team TORN APART due to the cap realities after that one year.

Next year, fell behind 3-0 without Bolland, ,rallied and nearly stole G7 against a team that rep'd the West in the Cup

Then last year, we should have beat Phx if not for C2 growing a wussy...

Q's not perfect but he got us farther in the last 3 years than anyone wants to give him credit for.
- philco28

Don't think Q should go first, but any team with Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Kane, Bolland, Seabrook, Keith should at least make the play-offs every year almost no matter what injuries happen.

Brookbank is rope?
- StLBravesFan

maybe he meant a paper rope?

Don't think Q should go first, but any team with Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Kane, Bolland, Seabrook, Keith should at least make the play-offs every year almost no matter what injuries happen.
- StLBravesFan

Making the playoffs to me is a non negotiable. This is Chicago.... and more than half the teams in the league make the playoffs each year. But just making the playoffs is not enough. It's Q's job to employ a system that works. It's Stan's job to put the right pieces in place. It's both their jobs to work together to make this happen. it's not.

Just curious why specifically you don't care for Jerry. I realize you know this, but outside the 85 Bears and 10 Hawks, Jerry is the only owner that's won in this town (please don't mention the Wolves).

Trader Kenny drives me nutz...I've wanted him fired since the 2007 White Sox fiasco...

...although I do admit he's keeping this years WSox club in contention with some shrewd moves. Getting Kevin Youkilis for nothing, and the RSox are paying most of his salary, was ridiculous.
- ArlingtonRob

And they got Liriano for free pretty much.

Kompon.
- southernhawk

Tampon!

Q is going to choke on it!

Tampon!

Q is going to choke on it!
- EKolb13

PULL THE STRING Q!!!!!

I believe that was to a poster that jumped down my throat for a stance that he didn't agree with. Nor was he ever involved in the conversation. He just decided to attack me. I was simply reacting to him. But, I suppose we are allowed to be negative towards others we just cant react to the negativity. Well done, JJ

And are you so arrogant to think that one person who doesn't agree with you here has to be from the Blackhawks? Is it that absurd for someone to think you're wrong about something? You have shown such ignorance and unprofessionalism today it's scary. You have jumped down my throat bc I said Bowman did ONE thing well. You have then proceeded to ignore my other posts explaining all the things I think Bowman is at fault for. You then go on and say I do nothing but tote the company line.

You have also decided to ignore everything we were discussing that started all this and chose to exaggerate and harp on literally ONE comment I made about Stan. I said just as many things negatively about him that I did positively for him. But, I'm an apologist and I now work for the Blackhawks lol. I guess if I were you though and I pointed out numerous things you have flip flopped on I guess I'd choose to ignore them too.
Your ignorance is only overshadowed by your ego.
- Bhawks35

No just you. Reported again.

Good morning everyone !!

Well , not really .

The Hawks are still Doanless and cluster (frank)ed on top of the management structure and

My Cubs are going to blow this deadline....

So sick of try hard . These are results required businesses....

I can feel it coming on

Good morning everyone !!

Well , not really .

The Hawks are still Doanless and cluster (frank)ed on top of the management structure and

My Cubs are going to blow this deadline....

So sick of try hard . These are results required businesses....

I can feel it coming on
- mrpaulish

LOL...just think...we got TAMPON

Good Morning EK, JJ, MR.P....hows things

epic failure by SB and Q. Initially when the trade went down, i thought Brunette could be a good set of hands around the net and on the pp and finish some plays that Brouwer couldn't. But Brunette is a dead man. We also missed Brouwer on the pk. But this is all on Q. Also Q not playing Frolik and Lepisto more, instead we got more Brunette and Scott. Also when both Lepisto and Morrison got more time, they both played better. But they really looked shaky in the minimal shifts early on - and it was like WTF!!!!! Also Montador did not look comfortable out there and OD, hmmmmm. Also Leddy wasn't ready and the movement of Campbell was a joke. Another bad move by SB.
- Topshelf2010

....Brunette could be a good set of hands around the net and on the pp and finish some plays

Correct that's what he does well.....

But Brunette was never a screen setter the year before he got here...And besides Toews who else can stand there and screen and score? Couple that with Keith shooting at a 2.5% clip and you have a poor PP.

Not a big Kopecky fan but that was his best attribute and Brouwer was there in front of the goalie on PP's too.

Their skill set wasn' replaced until Shaw was discovered and to ask Kruger to stand and take a pounding in the slot might be a stretch.

So those holes were never filled last summer, and 3 dmen who were signed couldn't play effectively on the PK.

That's a tough hand to be dealt for a head coach and the results shouldn't be a shock to anyone. That's not to say Q. is blameless, but Bowman started the yarn ball to unravel last summer with some misguided signings.

I guess it's pure speculation when examining the moves he's made since 2005...
(talk about falling into good luck, that year was amazing for all that went right)...
and I'll admit he's not afraid to stick his neck out there when he see opportunity.

For me, I think it's philosophical in that I can't stand having such a thin minor league system. KW seems to rely on rehabilitating stuggling vets and high draft picks that have failed to meet expectations.

I know the WSox are investing more in scouting and development, so perhaps things will change for the better.

One thing is certain...I want the WSox to keep Youkilis for several years and if Jerry and KW let him walk I will be disappointed.
- ArlingtonRob

Sale, Ramirez, Beckham, Flowers, Viciedo, Reed all WS draft picks who are now professionals; some having good success others just meh, but still MLB players