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Cam Gore
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 5 @ 5:47 PM ET
Cam Gore: Havlat is the key
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Aug 5 @ 6:27 PM ET
Who is plan b or c? Doan? Honest question.
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Aug 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
Who is plan b or c? Doan? Honest question.
- Deadmau55


I'd inquire about someone like Hemsky if it wouldn't cost more than a pick and a prospect.
mf1313
San Jose Sharks
Location: Lethbridge, AB
Joined: 08.25.2010

Aug 5 @ 6:47 PM ET
Who is plan b or c? Doan? Honest question.
- Deadmau55

i really hope not, he apparently wants A LOT of kingo to play that the Sharks dont have. at 7 million a year that is way more then he should be getting imo.

Hemksy is a gd option if he is able to stay healthy like havlat
Nabby4Ever
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 11.22.2010

Aug 5 @ 6:59 PM ET
Who is plan b or c? Doan? Honest question.
- Deadmau55

Not that he's really a top 6 guy anymore but I wouldn't be against Jason Arnott. He had 34 points last year and was +13. He could be a solid pick up and a cheaper one with all the leadership qualities and veteran experience of Doan.
AceRatbang
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
I love Marty, but counting on him being healthy is just a bad plan.

He's really a good player who's a lot of fun to watch and easy to cheer for, but man he's made out of glass.
Old_Style311
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Downers Grove, IL
Joined: 12.13.2006

Aug 5 @ 8:51 PM ET
Did they ever try Marty with Zues? I remember that was a lethal combination for all of 8 games when they were in Chicago...haha
toaster12
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.19.2011

Aug 5 @ 9:29 PM ET
Did they ever try Marty with Zues? I remember that was a lethal combination for all of 8 games when they were in Chicago...haha
- Old_Style311


Yeah they did before the knee injury, and it actually did work well. I'm not against that as a third line option if either Wingels or Galiardi started playing well enough to slot into the second line effectively.
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Aug 5 @ 10:04 PM ET
I think Neimi is key. The sharks D core is way better than it was, with Stuart providing stability Boyle and Burns should be freed up a bit more. If Nemo can stop the puck like he did for the Hawks, San Jose should go deep.
sharksman
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.08.2006

Aug 5 @ 11:42 PM ET
I think Neimi is key. The sharks D core is way better than it was, with Stuart providing stability Boyle and Burns should be freed up a bit more. If Nemo can stop the puck like he did for the Hawks, San Jose should go deep.
- Troutback

If Niemi stops the puck like he did for the Hawks, the Sharks are screwed.
Niemi was average or slightly bellow during his short stint with the Hawks. HE was actually worse with the Hawks, for the most part, than he was with the Sharks. His only good series in the playoffs was against the Sharks.

Cam has something in his statement but for the wrong reasons. Havlat will not be any soprt of key if the coach keeps playing him like a slow grinder. Coach needs to learn when to deviate from his "plan" and who to allow to do the deviations. One of those players is Havlat. While he is a responsible two way forward who can play on most parts of the ice, the type of play Havlat is best suited for , if you want him to produce, is roaming and dangling. Coach Mcleeloo doesn't understand that style, just like he doesn't understand goaltenders. He'll have to wake up and learn .. hopefully the recent failures are going to snap him out of his rigidity.
Sharks_12
San Jose Sharks
Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK
Joined: 10.03.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:28 AM ET
Even with all players being 100% healthy, our roster isn't good enough for us to be considered a serious contender. We need (needed, might be too late now) to add some depth forwards through free agency. We don't have the prospect pool to trade without giving up roster players for roster players and a trade like that wouldn't improve our depth. We could theoretically trade a star for a bunch of forwards but we'd likely lose the trade in that scenario.
Sharks_12
San Jose Sharks
Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK
Joined: 10.03.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:30 AM ET
If Niemi stops the puck like he did for the Hawks, the Sharks are screwed.
Niemi was average or slightly bellow during his short stint with the Hawks. HE was actually worse with the Hawks, for the most part, than he was with the Sharks. His only good series in the playoffs was against the Sharks.

Cam has something in his statement but for the wrong reasons. Havlat will not be any soprt of key if the coach keeps playing him like a slow grinder. Coach needs to learn when to deviate from his "plan" and who to allow to do the deviations. One of those players is Havlat. While he is a responsible two way forward who can play on most parts of the ice, the type of play Havlat is best suited for , if you want him to produce, is roaming and dangling. Coach Mcleeloo doesn't understand that style, just like he doesn't understand goaltenders. He'll have to wake up and learn .. hopefully the recent failures are going to snap him out of his rigidity.

- sharksman

Hopefully Big Bird can shake things up. Our coaching staff had the same problem with Heatley, no idea how to use him properly.
Ryman
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Aug 6 @ 3:54 AM ET
I'd inquire about someone like Hemsky if it wouldn't cost more than a pick and a prospect.
- Viktory



Oh those things we gave away left and right to build up to what we have now.....
sharksuisse
Location: somewhere in europe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Aug 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
Cam Gore: Havlat is the key
- CamGore


HE BETTER BE!!!!
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Aug 6 @ 10:46 AM ET
Just get a fully healthy Havlat to the playoffs and you'll be laughing. That guy loves the pressure.
Sharkfan48
San Jose Sharks
Location: Fremont, CA
Joined: 01.05.2011

Aug 6 @ 12:24 PM ET
Just get a fully healthy Havlat to the playoffs and you'll be laughing. That guy loves the pressure.
- TommyDeVito



That is a huge if.
Sharkfan48
San Jose Sharks
Location: Fremont, CA
Joined: 01.05.2011

Aug 6 @ 12:26 PM ET
i really hope not, he apparently wants A LOT of kingo to play that the Sharks dont have. at 7 million a year that is way more then he should be getting imo.

Hemksy is a gd option if he is able to stay healthy like havlat

- mf1313



Blah, Blah, Blah. Why are you concerned with how much a player makes? Hell if he scores 1 playoff goal he has already outscored Marleau's playoff total last year.

The thing that really bugs me about the Sharks and Sharks fans is they/we always find a REASON, for not be able to get better.
Sharkfan48
San Jose Sharks
Location: Fremont, CA
Joined: 01.05.2011

Aug 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
If Niemi stops the puck like he did for the Hawks, the Sharks are screwed.
Niemi was average or slightly bellow during his short stint with the Hawks. HE was actually worse with the Hawks, for the most part, than he was with the Sharks. His only good series in the playoffs was against the Sharks.

Cam has something in his statement but for the wrong reasons. Havlat will not be any soprt of key if the coach keeps playing him like a slow grinder. Coach needs to learn when to deviate from his "plan" and who to allow to do the deviations. One of those players is Havlat. While he is a responsible two way forward who can play on most parts of the ice, the type of play Havlat is best suited for , if you want him to produce, is roaming and dangling. Coach Mcleeloo doesn't understand that style, just like he doesn't understand goaltenders. He'll have to wake up and learn .. hopefully the recent failures are going to snap him out of his rigidity.

- sharksman




Aliaksandrhn
San Jose Sharks
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
I love Marty, but counting on him being healthy is just a bad plan.

He's really a good player who's a lot of fun to watch and easy to cheer for, but man he's made out of glass.

- AceRatbang

Agreed.
Aliaksandrhn
San Jose Sharks
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
Even with all players being 100% healthy, our roster isn't good enough for us to be considered a serious contender. We need (needed, might be too late now) to add some depth forwards through free agency. We don't have the prospect pool to trade without giving up roster players for roster players and a trade like that wouldn't improve our depth. We could theoretically trade a star for a bunch of forwards but we'd likely lose the trade in that scenario.
- Sharks_12

The problem with trading one of the star players for 2 or 3 depth forward is that even if Wilson makes up his mind to do so - which is a big if - most of our star players have NMC. The off-season isn't over yet but if no signifficant changes to this roster are made I say we are screwed. It's really insane IMO to think that the addition of Burrish, Stuart and Larry Robinson (no disrespect to him) is what's finally going to get us over the hump. Same GM and clueless coach, same team, same problems, a year older and slower - give me one reason to expect a different result.
Ryman
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Aug 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
The problem with trading one of the star players for 2 or 3 depth forward is that even if Wilson makes up his mind to do so - which is a big if - most of our star players have NMC. The off-season isn't over yet but if no signifficant changes to this roster are made I say we are screwed. It's really insane IMO to think that the addition of Burrish, Stuart and Larry Robinson (no disrespect to him) is what's finally going to get us over the hump. Same GM and clueless coach, same team, same problems, a year older and slower - give me one reason to expect a different result.
- Aliaksandrhn


Maybe the new CBA will allow performance enhancing drugs and we will have monsters on ice again. Joking aside without a good shift in personel I can't forsee a great outcome.
mxgsfmdpx
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 03.17.2009

Aug 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
All the Sharks need to do is get into the playoffs again. Nothing else matters, just get into the post season and see what happens.

"This fan base expects the cup and nothing less" LOL. Stupid bafoons, we are lucky to watch a team that is in the playoff picture just about every year. Do you feel the same way about the A's, Giants, Niners, and Raiders? What is it about "Sharks Fans" and "demanding" the cup and "nothing less".

Just enjoy the sport you love to watch, if you hate seeing them lose, and if it's a "failure" if they don't win it all why don't you just go take a nap when the game is on?

Morons.

Sharks_12
San Jose Sharks
Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK
Joined: 10.03.2007

Aug 6 @ 7:39 PM ET
The problem with trading one of the star players for 2 or 3 depth forward is that even if Wilson makes up his mind to do so - which is a big if - most of our star players have NMC. The off-season isn't over yet but if no signifficant changes to this roster are made I say we are screwed. It's really insane IMO to think that the addition of Burrish, Stuart and Larry Robinson (no disrespect to him) is what's finally going to get us over the hump. Same GM and clueless coach, same team, same problems, a year older and slower - give me one reason to expect a different result.
- Aliaksandrhn

Even if we had retained Winnik and Moore AND added Burish I would still say our forward group was barely good enough. That's how bad it is.
Aliaksandrhn
San Jose Sharks
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 6 @ 10:44 PM ET
Even if we had retained Winnik and Moore AND added Burish I would still say our forward group was barely good enough. That's how bad it is.
- Sharks_12

I agree. Nobody knows exactly what happened with Winnik but I read on Fear The Fin that he asked for too much and Wilson wouldn't give him what he wanted.
mxgsfmdpx
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 03.17.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
Even if we had retained Winnik and Moore AND added Burish I would still say our forward group was barely good enough. That's how bad it is.
- Sharks_12


Winnik and Moore were both old and slow. I didn't mind Winnik he made some stuff happen on the ice. Moore was a bust and I'm glad he didn't get resigned.

Our Top 6 Forwards is definitely one of the best in the league, but after that it's slim.
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