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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:13 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Lilja has Hip Surgery, Will Miss Four Months
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:17 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Lilja has Hip Surgery, Will Miss Four Months
- bmeltzer


Not a huge issue, will certainly provide more time for Gustafsson and Bourdon to cement spots.

I didn;t expect Lilja to be much more than a 7th guy this season, anyhow. Certainly not as big a blow as the Meszaros injury.

The other good news is, there's a slew of decent depth free agents the Flyers can pursue right now.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:20 AM ET
Great offseason, thus far.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:24 AM ET
Not a huge issue, will certainly provide more time for Gustafsson and Bourdon to cement spots.

I didn;t expect Lilja to be much more than a 7th guy this season, anyhow. Certainly not as big a blow as the Meszaros injury.

The other good news is, there's a slew of decent depth free agents the Flyers can pursue right now.

- Jsaquella


Just more material for the schtick-heads today. Glad I stopped in early and got it out of the way.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:26 AM ET
Not a huge issue, will certainly provide more time for Gustafsson and Bourdon to cement spots.

I didn;t expect Lilja to be much more than a 7th guy this season, anyhow. Certainly not as big a blow as the Meszaros injury.

The other good news is, there's a slew of decent depth free agents the Flyers can pursue right now.

- Jsaquella


My hope had been that the Flyers could have found another team looking for a serviceable and inexpensive veteran #6/#7 Dman for one year, sending the Flyers a conditional draft pick (the condition being GP next season) in exchange for Lilja. Then Gervais would have been the Flyers #6/#7.

No chance of that now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
My hope had been that the Flyers could have found another team looking for a serviceable and inexpensive veteran #6/#7 Dman for one year, sending the Flyers a conditional draft pick (the condition being GP next season) in exchange for Lilja. Then Gervais would have been the Flyers #6/#7.

No chance of that now.

- bmeltzer


That would have been nice, if only to open a contract slot. That's really the worst part of this, having that dead contract slot until November or December
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Lilja has Hip Surgery, Will Miss Four Months
- bmeltzer


Ok - trying to be positive on a sunday morning... This doesn't change the top 4; Timmo, Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn. Gervais is probably already penciled in at the 5th spot? That meaning Gust, MAB, and Manning battle it out for the 6th spot? Where was Lilja going to fit anyways??? Battle for Gervais's spot, or in the mix for the 6th spot, or riding the bench - 7th defenseman.

Another positive. We just freed up another 700K in LTIR
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Just more material for the schtick-heads today. Glad I stopped in early and got it out of the way.
- tangent_man


They'll go from female doging about how badly he played to how much they'll miss him while he's hurt
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
Ok - trying to be positive on a sunday morning... This doesn't change the top 4; Timmo, Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn. Gervais is probably already penciled in at the 5th spot? That meaning Gust, MAB, and Manning battle it out for the 6th spot? Where was Lilja going to fit anyways??? Battle for Gervais's spot, or in the mix for the 6th spot, or riding the bench - 7th defenseman.

Another positive. We just freed up another 700K in LTIR

- leon neon



Stop being positive. The Flyers suck, they can't draft and they will never win a Stanley Cup
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 12 @ 9:36 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Lilja has Hip Surgery, Will Miss Four Months
- bmeltzer


Lilja
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:43 AM ET

unbelievable

the hits keep coming
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:44 AM ET
There will have to be a another guy added before the season begins. Lilja doesn't hurt so bad but you have to have depth to allow for injuries over the course if the season and it doesn't look like we have much of it right now.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 12 @ 9:44 AM ET
That would have been nice, if only to open a contract slot. That's really the worst part of this, having that dead contract slot until November or December
- Jsaquella



David Poile must have himself a Flyers blueline voodoo doll collection.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:45 AM ET
With the uncertainity of the CBA, Lilja may miss no games this year. What a dreadful thought.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:45 AM ET


Stop being positive. The Flyers suck, they can't draft and they will never win a Stanley Cup

- Jsaquella



i don't want to be one of the negative nancies but i'll miss the depth. one more injury and you have manning mab AND gus all in the starting 6

yiikes

they gotta sign somebody else
edmac812
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dry Island, PA
Joined: 12.31.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:46 AM ET


Stop being positive. The Flyers suck, they can't draft and they will never win a Stanley Cup

Whats to be positive about? this team got manhandled in the second round of the playoffs, and has only gotten worse since their season ended.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:47 AM ET
Ok - trying to be positive on a sunday morning... This doesn't change the top 4; Timmo, Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn. Gervais is probably already penciled in at the 5th spot? That meaning Gust, MAB, and Manning battle it out for the 6th spot? Where was Lilja going to fit anyways??? Battle for Gervais's spot, or in the mix for the 6th spot, or riding the bench - 7th defenseman.

Another positive. We just freed up another 700K in LTIR

- leon neon


The way it's looking, if we had gotten Weber, we could have fit his salary in just on what we lost on LTIR..

Maybe it's not the plan, but i'd really like to see them pick up a dman UFA like Carlo C before he's off the market. We def need help on the back end here.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Aug 12 @ 9:57 AM ET
Am I the only one who feels it is not that big of a deal to start with the following defense this year...

Coburn-Grossman (top shut down unit)
Timonen-Schenn (reliable 2nd unit)
Bourdon-Gusstavvson/Gervais (young developing kids)


Obviously this will need to be upgraded throughout the season but I don't see an issue with starting the season out this way to give some young kids some experience early on. The Flyers have had tremendous success acquiring dmen for dirt cheap during the regular season, I don't see why this season would be much different.

Patience is not a bad thing with this defense. In my opinion anyway
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Aug 12 @ 9:58 AM ET
no great loss here, but those hanging on to a dream of retaining all of our best young forwards are smoking something. we need a top 3 dman and there is simply no one available thru the FA mkt. by Dec, if not even sooner, a trade will be made cause this D crew is wanting...whether its because of age, injury, inexperience or lack of talent.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Aug 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
no great loss here, but those hanging on to a dream of retaining all of our best young forwards are smoking something. we need a top 3 dman and there is simply no one available thru the FA mkt. by Dec, if not even sooner, a trade will be made cause this D crew is wanting...whether its because of age, injury, inexperience or lack of talent.
- isaiah520



With the amount of talent on offense... I don't move the young kids to get d-men. Patience is key in my opinion. Coburn, Carle, Grossman all acquired during the regular season for dirt cheap.

Unless you are acquiring a top flight clear cut beast on defense, I am not trading the young kids on offense.
klasic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Welland, ON
Joined: 07.08.2009

Aug 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
Whats to be positive about? this team got manhandled in the second round of the playoffs, and has only gotten worse since their season ended.
- edmac812

could be worse, could be the leafs
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
Add more fuel to the fire for the negative nellies of hockeybuzz
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
no great loss here, but those hanging on to a dream of retaining all of our best young forwards are smoking something. we need a top 3 dman and there is simply no one available thru the FA mkt. by Dec, if not even sooner, a trade will be made cause this D crew is wanting...whether its because of age, injury, inexperience or lack of talent.
- isaiah520

This is the most relavant comment of the day. The Flyers can only whistle past the graveyard for so long.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
no great loss here, but those hanging on to a dream of retaining all of our best young forwards are smoking something. we need a top 3 dman and there is simply no one available thru the FA mkt. by Dec, if not even sooner, a trade will be made cause this D crew is wanting...whether its because of age, injury, inexperience or lack of talent.
- isaiah520


I'd like to get a UFA to plug the hole temporarily, then look for a trade mid season. Homer is in a position of weakness right now. Teams would try to fleece him and he wouldn't bite. I hope Bourdon and Gus are ready to handle the load. It also still worries me having Schenn in a top 4 slot right of the get go.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
Whats to be positive about? this team got manhandled in the second round of the playoffs, and has only gotten worse since their season ended.
- edmac812


Looking at the last game of the Playoffs
The Defensive line up was...
Timmo - Mez - Coburn - Grossman - Carle - Gust

Of which both, Timmo and Mez were playing hurt. Both Coburn and Grossman looked good. Carle played well enough. For Gust's first playoff, played well. This line up isn't bad if healthy, and even healthy - it's kind-of soft and doesn't help against getting manhandled.

Next year... The way I look at it...
Carle's out, Hopefully Gust in... Giving a chance, Gust may supply the offensive edge lost with Carle.

Mez out, Schenn in - Schenn should be able to fill in. A healthy Schenn is better than a hurt Mez.

Timmo - Cross fingers he's healthy and stays that way.

Coburn and Grossmann will need to play strong.

(Bryz will need to pick it up, and Lavy may need to adjust the system to protect Bryz a little more).


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