Not too many defensemen can play 26 minutes/game against the top line of other teams.

He may not be elite, but he's just a notch below.
- bradleyc4

I would put him lower then just a notch below elite. He's a solid player. But if Weber, Chara, and Doughty are elite to name a few. Bowmeester isn't close to that level. Bouwmeester is much closer to Coburn's level, then he is to those players.

I would put him lower then just a notch below elite. He's a solid player. But if Weber, Chara, and Doughty are elite to name a few. Bowmeester isn't close to that level. Bouwmeester is much closer to Coburn's level, then he is to those players.
- MJL

Seriously though, this is spot on.

Now imagine paying someone on Coburn's level 6.7...

No thanks

25- Zezel over Primeau

55- Primeau over Gratton

Gratton doesnt deserve to be on the list. Especially over PZ's mullet.

Seriously though, this is spot on.

Now imagine paying someone on Coburn's level 6.7...

No thanks
- Giroux_Is_God

something tells me if Jbo came here, we might change our opinions a little bit, just a hunch. Besides as depleted as this lineup is I know I'd be less concerned about overpaying for a player that adds something you need to the lineup.

#93 forever

#93 forever




- Marc D

I would put him lower then just a notch below elite. He's a solid player. But if Weber, Chara, and Doughty are elite to name a few. Bowmeester isn't close to that level. Bouwmeester is much closer to Coburn's level, then he is to those players.
- MJL

I'd put him more in with Suter, Girardi and Seabrook camp.

25- Zezel over Primeau

55- Primeau over Gratton

Gratton doesnt deserve to be on the list. Especially over PZ's mullet.
- KINGKENZO

oh snap i missed that! I didn't know Primeau wore 55 here.

I'd put him more in with Suter, Girardi and Seabrook camp.
- bradleyc4

Bouwmeester isn't close to that level. Especially not Seabrook. Seabrook is one of the top 2 way defenseman in the entire League.

25- Zezel over Primeau

55- Primeau over Gratton

Gratton doesnt deserve to be on the list. Especially over PZ's mullet.
- KINGKENZO

Primeau never wore 55 with the Flyers, as far as I can remember. Wore it with the Red Wings and Whalers/Hurricanes.

I'd put him more in with Suter, Girardi and Seabrook camp.
- bradleyc4

that is one very fine camp

Bouwmeester isn't close to that level. Especially not Seabrook. Seabrook is one of the top 2 way defenseman in the entire League.
- MJL

I thought the same thing, especially Seabrooke

Suter without Weber will be interesting to see how he does

Primeau never wore 55 with the Flyers, as far as I can remember. Wore it with the Red Wings and Whalers/Hurricanes.
- bmeltzer

I'm almost positive he wore it briefly he did when first traded, i could be wrong. But I still stand that we should F Gratton and honor Zezel's mullet hahahahaha

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- bmeltzer

My changes...

8 Dave Schultz
9 Hound Kelly
11 Saleski

(really showing my age here)

15 JJ Daigneault
55 Danny Markov - because I just really liked the guy

Bouwmeester isn't close to that level. Especially not Seabrook. Seabrook is one of the top 2 way defenseman in the entire League.
- MJL

What we have here is a difference of opinion.

Doesnt look like KP wore 55 after the trade

something tells me if Jbo came here, we might change our opinions a little bit, just a hunch. Besides as depleted as this lineup is I know I'd be less concerned about overpaying for a player that adds something you need to the lineup.
- JoeRussomanno

I don't deny he's a solid player, Anne Frankly ( ), a player we are in dire need of.

Hell we're in dire need of BODIES on the blueline, let alone specific players :aah

But I just can't get over 6.8....that's franchise Dman money....

What we have here is a difference of opinion.
- bradleyc4

I'm curious to hear you elaborate on yours. Not that i agree or disagree. Just would like to hear more.

I don't deny he's a solid player, Anne Frankly ( ), a player we are in dire need of.

Hell we're in dire need of BODIES on the blueline, let alone specific players :aah

But I just can't get over 6.8....that's franchise Dman money....
- Giroux_Is_God

Under the circumstances its feasible. If you get a flat and all you have is a cheap manufacturer donut spare, you ride on the spare.

Under the circumstances its feasible. If you get a flat and all you have is a cheap manufacturer donut spare, you ride on the spare.
- JoeRussomanno

Even if the spare costs more than the tires?

And by costs more, I don't mean salary- I mean what the Flames are asking for

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Even if the spare costs more than the tires?

And by costs more, I don't mean salary- I mean what the Flames are asking for
- Giroux_Is_God

we don't know what they are asking for. Unless you're listening in on the phone call between homer and feaster.

we don't know what they are asking for. Unless you're listening in on the phone call between homer and feaster.
- JoeRussomanno

Can't argue with that logic. Let me rephrase.

It's been speculated that the spare is gonna cost a fortune. Would a spare that costs more than the tires in cost (the Flame's return in the trade) and upkeep (JBo's salary) be worth it?

Can't argue with that logic. Let me rephrase.

It's been speculated that the spare is gonna cost a fortune. Would a spare that costs more than the tires in cost (the Flame's return in the trade) and upkeep (JBo's salary)?
- Giroux_Is_God

Depends on how bad do you wanna get where you wanna go? If the Flyers don't have a blueline stocked properly they could be going nowhere.

Depends on how bad do you wanna get where you wanna go? If the Flyers don't have a blueline stocked properly they could be going nowhere.
- JoeRussomanno

But if you give too much and don't have enough money for gas, you won't get to where you want to go either

EDIT: at your avytard