Cam Gore: The new CBA - Who’s side are you on?

Owners!!!

Cam Gore: The new CBA - Who’s side are you on?
- CamGore

doesn't matter. just play the damn game. we play a boatload of money for tickets and merchandise. play the damn game you greedy sons of biatches. yes you both players and owners.

i'm really happy to read garth's blog about how ott spends his time at his summer home in his private gym overlooking the lake. must be rough to be a 3rd line millionaire. drop the god damn puck.

Just end it!!!!

You have to first believe that the owners are honest and that they are up front with their private books.. and that unlike the US Banks, Electrical Companies, Savings & Loans, Chemical Companies, Insurance companies, Auto Industry, that they aren't cooking their books and are honest.

San Jose did not lose any money... with practical sell-outs every night.. only a truly incompetent management team could lose money there. But most people believed it because Forbes Mag reported such. When Forbes never actually saw their balance sheets.

Funny thing also is a good chunk of their advertisers happen to be some of the same owners.. matter of fact half or more of the media that reports on the CBA negotiations are owned or make money from said group of owners.

Don't believe everything you read.

One month Leipold is losing millions next month he signs two players for a good chunk over 100 million dollars..

Cry me a river.. the NHL loser franchises were put in place by the owners & Bettman.. time to move them to somewhere profitable.. and stop the self sabotage.

Weird but in most other businesses if they opened weak franchises they would go bankrupt or close the doors on those ailing locations.. why should the NHL be any different.

Unlike other industries in North American.. Sports Franchises are the only ones demanding regulation while all the other free enterprises are asking for deregulation.

Free market if you can't balance your books... then you close your doors. Why should the players suffer for the ineptitude of the owners.

I pay to watch players play not to watch the owners shut down the NHL every few years so they can steal more money.

They already wine & dine their clients on the teams bill and get tons of free advertising & marketing directly from owning the team.. yet they want more.

PLAYERS

Although I don;t agree with them on everything, I will always side with owners as they are the ones that take the risks by ponying up A LOT of money to buy and run a sports team

One of my issues in question is the timing of this SJ report. Certainly a team that is failing such as is (if that's really the case) would be big news. Ala Phoenix.

...."argument can be made that the fans come out to see the players play, they are the ones who bring people to their feet whether they are watching at home on television or if they are at the game."
Almot all companies need their employees to operate, the difference is they don't split their profits, or pay them outrageous salaries. And don't insult the common worker by saying that hockey players have it rough because they have to train and have a special diet.....ooohhhh that's rough.

Players

If owners want to stop high salaries then offer less.

That was the most worthless article/post I've read on NHL franchise business operations. Do you just make stuff up? Maybe you ought to research a little before you make a post.

One of my issues in question is the timing of this SJ report. Certainly a team that is failing such as is (if that's really the case) would be big news. Ala Phoenix.
- hockey nut 28

The team is not failing. The owners presented "hockey operations" numbers exclusively and even with those is not clear how true they are. As in most cases ( there are some exceptions) the actual revenue/expenses go beyond just hockey operations but those numbers are mostly hidden or not included in their annual reports. As for the intentional lying .. well that is another story but it is true, the accountants lie .
Cammer, owners do not have money? then why did they buy the teams? When the previous owner comes and tells you he's been running in the red for x number of years and has the books to prove it .. why are you taking on such a money pit?
Cause you want to .. that is why many owners do not look at owning a hockey team as a revenue stream as many of them admitted on a few occasions ... YET when time comes for bargaining agreements they all cry like their life depends on it.
Yes there are the cases of some new owners who came in trying to "turn the fortunes of a team around" thinking they can transform a hockey team into a milking cow only to discover they can't .. but that only goes to show that people, no matter how rich, are stupid.


And what is that? Oooooh the poor players....they have to go though hard training? Really Cammer? Do you know how much school and training I had to go though, and still do, for my job? Do you not think that the 12-16 hrs I spend in my office are not taking a toll on my health? Yet I am not making anything near Parise's money or hell .. even good for nothing Mitchell makes a ton more than I do ...and all he has to do is .. play and be ready to play?

doesn't matter. just play the damn game. we play a boatload of money for tickets and merchandise. play the damn game you greedy sons of biatches. yes you both players and owners.

i'm really happy to read garth's blog about how ott spends his time at his summer home in his private gym overlooking the lake. must be rough to be a 3rd line millionaire. drop the god damn puck.
- therealagent

Agreed

I know that I am not on either side on this one. Both sides knew the CBA was coming up and its really lame they wait till there is next to no time left to get a new one formed. Using a lockout as a tool really holds the fans as hostage. If we lose a major portion of this season or all of it I may be done with NHL. I know they are all in it to make money but that money comes from us so make sure you give us a quality product and quit Richarding around with negotiations on a cba.

I root for the Team not the players on the team. Owners, can we cue up some replacement players and move on if need be albeit with lower priced tickets? With the Owners...

I root for the Team not the players on the team. Owners, can we cue up some replacement players and move on if need be albeit with lower priced tickets? With the Owners...
- heygar22

I root for hockey .. and there is plenty of hockey to be had even with NHL locked out.

A short lockout actually benefits the Sharks as a team. And if salaries keep going up the way they do, San Jose will not be able to be the spend to the max team they have been for the last half a decade. So I support the Owners decision to lockout the Players until they lower their demands, as long as it doesn't mean a full season lost. That being said the Owners' demands need to come down a fair amount as well.

That was the most worthless article/post I've read on NHL franchise business operations. Do you just make stuff up? Maybe you ought to research a little before you make a post.
- diskprotek

bingo! it's what i've written before...this guy is a lousy writer. makes me want garner back again....