Leighton = Kyle Kendrick???

That's a relief....

geez Bill, 7AM is kind of leight. what have you been doing the last couple of hours?
- nails

He overslept

What can I say? I like to vocabulate

- BulliesPhan87

I find your verbosity quite compelling.

I don't think it's fair to just say it was team defense that caused Bryzgalov's struggles. It's a two way road, a goaltender performing reliably emboldens the team defense, and vice versa. Similarly, when one part of this tandem is struggling, the other's job becomes more difficult. The team defense wasn't great through a lot of last year, but Bryzgalov deserves a fair portion of the blame for some untimely brain cramps.

I still think Bryz got more heat than he deserved at times, but at his pay grade he needs to be a catalyst in the symbiosis that keeps pucks out of our net.
- BulliesPhan87

- stveshdy

What can I say? I like to vocabulate

- BulliesPhan87

You skate on suckers who perpetrate
And lay down laws from state to state

You skate on suckers who perpetrate
And lay down laws from state to state
- Scoob

Smacking round homies that can't relate
goin to the clink but i don't know the date

In my opinion, systems don't make players. Players makes systems work. Regardless of what system a team plays, a Goalie still has to make the saves.
- MJL

So what happened in stl this year? Did the system make elliot that good, or did the system fall apart in the playoffs?

So what happened in stl this year? Did the system make elliot that good, or did the system fall apart in the playoffs?
- twotoekenn

Elliott was playing injured.

Elliott was playing injured.
- bradleyc4

And his team scored 6 goals in 4 games.

And his team scored 6 goals in 4 games.
- canadianpenfan

Obviously Cechmanek's fault.

So what happened in stl this year? Did the system make elliot that good, or did the system fall apart in the playoffs?
- twotoekenn

In my opinion a system could very much make a break a player. Players lose their jobs if they don't fit in with a system and this isn't to say that the player losing his job is a bad player. In my opinion, a system creates organization on the ice. If you play a more "stay back" and defensive system, you might allow less goal but you might be sacrificing goals in the process as well.

So what happened in stl this year? Did the system make elliot that good, or did the system fall apart in the playoffs?
- twotoekenn

Players win and lose games, not systems.

- stveshdy

In my opinion a system could very much make a break a player. Players lose their jobs if they don't fit in with a system and this isn't to say that the player losing his job is a bad player. In my opinion, a system creates organization on the ice. If you play a more "stay back" and defensive system, you might allow less goal but you might be sacrificing goals in the process as well.
- SuperSchennBros

Every single team has a system. And if a player in the situation you described loses their job, it's simply because they didn't play well enough.

Systems are given way to much credit and emphasis.

Every single team has a system. And if a player in the situation you described loses their job, it's simply because they didn't play well enough.

Systems are given way to much credit and emphasis.
- MJL

Every single team has a system. And if a player in the situation you described loses their job, it's simply because they didn't play well enough.

Systems are given way to much credit and emphasis.
- MJL

You could very well but right now Mike Smith looks pretty good in relief of Bryzgalov

You could very well but right now Mike Smith looks pretty good in relief of Bryzgalov
- SuperSchennBros

Quick question. During a game when the opposition has the puck on their stick taking a shot on net, and Mike Smith has to make the save. What does the system have to do with it?

Quick question. During a game when the opposition has the puck on their stick taking a shot on net, and Mike Smith has to make the save. What does the system have to do with it?
- MJL

What is the scenario? How are the players in front of the tender positioned? I would think some saves are just routine. Some blocks from defenseman that are deflected away from the tenders direction can be routine. I would think the idea is to make the goatender's life as easy as possible left and try not to allow any shots and allow him to see everything. So what's the situation? Breakaway?

What is the scenario? How are the players in front of the tender positioned? I would think some saves are just routine. Some blocks from defenseman that are deflected away from the tenders direction can be routine. I would think the idea is to make the goatender's life as easy as possible left and try not to allow any shots and allow him to see everything. So what's the situation? Breakaway?
- SuperSchennBros

The situation is a player taking a shot on net, from anywhere. It comes down to the same thing. Making the save, or not making the save. In an essence that is the game. It doesn't come down to the system. If it did, then the winner of the game could be determined without dropping the puck. Simply by awarding the game to the team with the better system.

Systems are way overblown. Every team has a good system in place.

The situation is a player taking a shot on net, from anywhere. It comes down to the same thing. Making the save, or not making the save. In an essence that is the game. It doesn't come down to the system. If it did, then the winner of the game could be determined without dropping the puck. Simply by awarding the game to the team with the better system.

Systems are way overblown. Every team has a good system in place.
- MJL

Okay. How is one system better then another? How is one game plan better then another game plan? You have to the games, so there is an out come. How do we have the best coach of the year or of all time for that matter. How is one coach better then another? Is shame plan and a strategy really not that important?

Okay. How is one system better then another? How is one game plan better then another game plan? You have to the games, so there is an out come. How do we have the best coach of the year or of all time for that matter. How is one coach better then another?
- SuperSchennBros

One system isn't better then another. One game plan isn't better then another. What determines who wins a given game is the players on the ice. That's what makes one teams system better the the other teams in that given game. The execution of it. Players win and lose games. Players make Coaches look good and they make them look bad. Certainly some Coaches are better then others for a variety of reasons. But the best Coach in the World isn't worth a dam without the players behind them. Coaches can certainly affect a game in a number of ways but putting his players in the best position to succeed and giving them the right opportunity. But it still comes down to players, playing. Not systems. A Coach can certainly have a bad game plan and a poor strategy going into a game. He can be caught in bad matchups, etc. And a Coach can prepare his team against an opponent and point out weaknesses in players or teams as a whole from advanced scouting, and how and where to attack them. Such as a defenseman who is weak on his backhand side. Or a Goaltender who tends to drop his glove hand exposing that corner of the net.
Keep in mind that no system used today is proprietary. Every system used is a set of Hockey strategies mixed together that have been used for decades.


What is your opinion of the Flyers system and what would you change about it, if any?

He overslept
- ob18

Well, if he would just give me his home number, I would give him the 4:30 wake up call.

Well, if he would just give me his home number, I would give him the 4:30 wake up call.
- nails

One system isn't better then another. One game plan isn't better then another. What determines who wins a given game is the players on the ice. That's what makes one teams system better the the other teams in that given game. The execution of it. Players win and lose games. Players make Coaches look good and they make them look bad. Certainly some Coaches are better then others for a variety of reasons. But the best Coach in the World isn't worth a dam without the players behind them. Coaches can certainly affect a game in a number of ways but putting his players in the best position to succeed and giving them the right opportunity. But it still comes down to players, playing. Not systems. A Coach can certainly have a bad game plan and a poor strategy going into a game. He can be caught in bad matchups, etc. And a Coach can prepare his team against an opponent and point out weaknesses in players or teams as a whole from advanced scouting, and how and where to attack them. Such as a defenseman who is weak on his backhand side. Or a Goaltender who tends to drop his glove hand exposing that corner of the net.
Keep in mind that no system used today is proprietary. Every system used is a set of Hockey strategies mixed together that have been used for decades.


What is your opinion of the Flyers system and what would you change about it, if any?
- MJL

The Devils just called and asked who stole their last twenty years.