Poor leadership on both sides, picking and choosing one side when both are acting like fools doesn't make sense.
- LeafMan

Did you watch tsn last night when they explained how it fell apart?


Bettman had nothing to do with it.

The moderate owners heads almost exploded when the players dismissed their rather large move towards a deal. The guys from Winnipeg, Pitt, Toronto.


Tanenbaum turned purple.

Who left anything out? I said exactly that.


Funny how you seem to forget that it's the league that walked away from this. How do they get no blame?
- burn

1: league makes proposal

2: union doesnt accept

3: union changes proposal

4: league walks away

how exactly is that the owners walking away from their own proposal.. the union cant change it and then say its the owners proposal.. cause its no longer the owners proposal the moment one thing is changed

Did you watch tsn last night when they explained how it fell apart?


Bettman had nothing to do with it.

The moderate owners heads almost exploded when the players dismissed their rather large move towards a deal. The guys from Winnipeg, Pitt, Toronto.


Tanenbaum turned purple.
- robin_steele264

Are you talking about the prepared statements made by the NHL for the owners?

Again, you are looking at one side and ignoring the other, both sides are at fault.

Did you watch tsn last night when they explained how it fell apart?


Bettman had nothing to do with it.

The moderate owners heads almost exploded when the players dismissed their rather large move towards a deal. The guys from Winnipeg, Pitt, Toronto.


Tanenbaum turned purple.
- robin_steele264

The players weren't playing...Fehr...get it? Ya? Sorry.

It is like each are spitting Cobras, the venom sprays all over.
- LeafMan

i hope the damn league dissolvves leaving all the players out of work

seriously.. screw em.

Are you talking about the prepared statements made by the NHL for the owners?

Again, you are looking at one side and ignoring the other, both sides are at fault.
- LeafMan

LM, even the worst possible deal is sweet for the players

the talent they have was given to them by their gene pool

they should consider themselves lucky

screw em.

Totally unrelated... While doing some reading on the 95/95 Baseball Strike..where Fehr was involved... I found this awesome fact

Just before the strike, Dave Winfield was traded for what ended up being food

Are you talking about the prepared statements made by the NHL for the owners?

Again, you are looking at one side and ignoring the other, both sides are at fault.
- LeafMan

No I'm talking about what Dreger and Mckenzie said when they explained how it broke down.

Agreed. I am cheering for the owners now, totally.
- bixll

Totally unrelated... While doing some reading on the 95/95 Baseball Strike..where Fehr was involved... I found this awesome fact

Just before the strike, Dave Winfield was traded for what ended up being food
- senstroll

yeah, dinner at a restaurant after the strike ended

- Dozzer

Seconded

LM, even the worst possible deal is sweet for the players

the talent they have was given to them by their gene pool

they should consider themselves lucky

screw em.
- Dozzer

You know what, deep down inside I hope the league is ruined forever and new one starts up, then I can see right beside Bettman and Fehr names, the men who destroyed the NHL.

I'm sick of it to, Saturday night has become family game night and if hockey comes back, we will still be playing games as a family on that night and not watching the hockey game, that is how much I despise those involved.

yeah, dinner at a restaurant after the strike ended


- Dozzer

I wish we could trade Komisarek for a sandwich

then Fehr stepped back in and used his typical, no, we can get more tactic

he's a cancer
- Dozzer

Only one to blame.... And you talk about spin.

You know what, deep down inside I hope the league is ruined forever and new one starts up, then I can see right beside Bettman and Fehr names, the men who destroyed the NHL.

I'm sick of it to, Saturday night has become family game night and if hockey comes back, we will still be playing games as a family on that night and not watching the hockey game, that is how much I despise those involved.
- LeafMan

they both need to go. agreed.

they were getting somewhere until those two morons stepped back in.

Did you watch tsn last night when they explained how it fell apart?


Bettman had nothing to do with it.

The moderate owners heads almost exploded when the players dismissed their rather large move towards a deal. The guys from Winnipeg, Pitt, Toronto.


Tanenbaum turned purple.
- robin_steele264

The dude was pissed... Tanenbaum seems to be a mild-mannered guy. The PA managed to piss off the 4 owners that actually wanted a deal to get done.

Only one to blame.... And you talk about spin.
- burn

everywhere Fehr goes there is labour unrest

he's a cancer.

Did you watch tsn last night when they explained how it fell apart?


Bettman had nothing to do with it.

The moderate owners heads almost exploded when the players dismissed their rather large move towards a deal. The guys from Winnipeg, Pitt, Toronto.


Tanenbaum turned purple.
- robin_steele264

Did you see where bob Mackenzie said he think players proposal would pass a vote amongst owners?

they both need to go. agreed.

they were getting somewhere until those two morons stepped back in.
- Dozzer

Not much more to add to that, lol.

Did you see where bob Mackenzie said he think players proposal would pass a vote amongst owners?
- burn

you could say the same about the NHL's proposal and it would pass a vote amongst the PA...

1: league makes proposal

2: union doesnt accept

3: union changes proposal

4: league walks away

how exactly is that the owners walking away from their own proposal.. the union cant change it and then say its the owners proposal.. cause its no longer the owners proposal the moment one thing is changed
- Dozzer

They were close. They changed one small item and the league freaked. Overreaction. 5year limit doesn't change the ecconomics. No need to die on that hill. Absurd.

I wish we could trade Komisarek for a sandwich
- senstroll

A Hero sandwich

everywhere Fehr goes there is labour unrest

he's a cancer.
- Dozzer

That's his job.

That's his job.
- AdamFrench

His job was to complete this deal with the owners, not be a deal breaker..

Not much more to add to that, lol.
- LeafMan

isnt it obvious? lol

those two rejoin the talks and two hours later everything falls apart