Ok well then my bad, I thought it was part of your argument which is why I BOLDED the part about Phx. But I wasn't wrong either as what I was pointing out was factually correct. We were arguing 2 different points that while connected were not the same.

I wasn't puffing out anything. You got bent out of shape and threw jabs my way that were uncalled for. Beyond that its fairly simple as explained above
- uf1910

Apology accepted.

You want to have dessert at the adult table?

And now for something completely different:


- Atomic Wedgie

EVERYONE BOYCOTT THE BAR, WIDE OPEN AT 139A SPADINA AVE.!!!

This D-BAG will be the first to open his doors when the season kicks off.

No, it would still be factually incorrect.

They are not realizing potential earnings, if the revenue sharing model had remained at 57%. FACT.

Losing Money. FALSE.

And here's the hilarious thing; if you didn't care about what people thought, why are you dedicating 80 hours a week trying to win these arguments?
- Atomic Wedgie

I didn't say that I didn't care what anyone thought. I said basically that I'm not concerned with what you find acceptable.

I think you should go to the Negotiations. And see if you can convince the NHLPA, and Donald Fehr that not realizing potential earnings isn't losing money. You could be a real boon to the NHL's bargaining position.

EVERYONE BOYCOTT THE BAR, WIDE OPEN AT 139A SPADINA AVE.!!!

This D-BAG will be the first to open his doors when the season kicks off.
- As_I_See_It

A) Yuker is the man.

B) Wide Open is Toronto's best dive bar.

I didn't say that I didn't care what anyone thought. I said basically that I'm not concerned with what you find acceptable.

I think you should go to the Negotiations. And see if you can convince the NHLPA, and Donald Fehr that not realizing potential earnings isn't losing money. You could be a real boon to the NHL's bargaining position.
- MJL

I've got news for you, Skippy: Fehr already knows this.

He just likes to continually state it, so that gullible people keep repeating it.

I love that! In the end it doesn't count as losing money because it's not their right now. That's classic!
- MJL

It is also true.

Hey i just lost 10000000 dollars.

I never actually had 10000000. I would have had it, IF my employer paid me that.

They never paid me that though, and I wanted it.

So, I'm gonna claim I lost it.

Not even close. According to the PA, it would take well over 500M in Make Whole payments to honor player contracts in full.

I love that! In the end it doesn't count as losing money because it's not their right now. That's classic!
- MJL

Where do they get their info from?

In Fehrs original offers he claimed the NHLs revenue increased by 7% each year. Bettman had taken a conservative route and claimed 5%, but Fehr said 7% was the amount he KNEW it was.

So, today their share is 1.88bil. Next year it's 1.65bil, then 1.77bil, then 1.89bil.

How much money is missing? 340million...

It's not freaken rocket science.

Now, if he wants to all of a sudden believe the NHL's numbers because it all of a sudden benifits him, he should lose all credibility.

Using 5%
this year 1.88, 1.65, 1.73, 1.82, he's still only losing 440million. However, the revenues keep growing until year 10, so the players are making back what they lose.

I've got news for you, Skippy: Fehr already knows this.

He just likes to continually state it, so that gullable people keep repeating it.
- Atomic Wedgie

Everyone who is not being wilfully stupid so as not to damage their own argument knows it,

I want my wife to buy me a BMW this Christmas.

If she doesn't, I will have lost a BMW.

Where do they get their info from?

In Fehrs original offers he claimed the NHLs revenue increased by 7% each year. Bettman had taken a conservative route and claimed 5%, but Fehr said 7% was the amount he KNEW it was.

So, today their share is 1.88bil. Next year it's 1.65bil, then 1.77bil, then 1.89bil.

How much money is missing? 340million...

It's not freaken rocket science.

Now, if he wants to all of a sudden believe the NHL's numbers because it all of a sudden benifits him, he should lose all credibility.

Using 5%
this year 1.88, 1.65, 1.73, 1.82, he's still only losing 440million. However, the revenues keep growing until year 10, so the players are making back what they lose.
- l3ig_l2ecl

Bob McKenzie tweeted that player contracts in a full Season this year, add up to over 1.95B.

It's impossible to make back what they lose.

I want my wife to buy me a BMW this Christmas.

If she doesn't, I will have lost a BMW.
- Aetherial

No.

You won't have lost a BMW.

She was never going to let you drive the thing.

I drove a BMW last year, but the lease EXPIRED.

Now it costs more for me to lease the same vehicle.

I offered to split the difference. They said no. How much more can I be expected to give them?

I've got news for you, Skippy: Fehr already knows this.

He just likes to continually state it, so that gullible people keep repeating it.
- Atomic Wedgie

No, that's just what you need people to think. Lucky for the players and Fehr. They aren't that gullible.

Got to go do some work. I'll be back.

Bob McKenzie tweeted that player contracts in a full Season this year, add up to over 1.95B.

It's impossible to make back what they lose.
- MJL

Even under the OLD CBA were they guaranteed that?

How much are they guaranteed now that there is no hockey and no CBA.

Hint: Way less than if they started playing in October

Bob McKenzie tweeted that player contracts in a full Season this year, add up to over 1.95B.

It's impossible to make back what they lose.
- MJL

He also tweeted that players never signed contracts guarenteeing them the full $ amount as it is tied to revenues.

If you want to go the Bob McKenzie route, he basically said the players don't deserve their contract if the revenue split goes to 50%. That the makewhole is something the owners are giving to the players as a concession.

A) Yuker is the man.

B) Wide Open is Toronto's best dive bar.
- Atomic Wedgie

C) We all expect more from you Wedgie! We all thought you were better than this!

I drove a BMW last year, but the lease EXPIRED.

Now it costs more for me to lease the same vehicle.

I offered to split the difference. They said no. How much more can I be expected to give them?
- Aetherial

They stole it from you.

No.

You won't have lost a BMW.

She was never going to let you drive the thing.
- Atomic Wedgie

That is exactly what happened with the last new car.

I want my wife to buy me a BMW this Christmas.

If she doesn't, I will have lost a BMW.
- Aetherial

* feels sorry for your loss *

They stole it from you.
- prock

I'm gonna drive NO car, or just drive a 1978 Vega until they agree to how much I was willing to pay, AND the 6000 in options I want them to throw in AND they have to pay me the difference between my last lease and the new one, until it ends up that I would have paid the same if my old lease was extended.

Yes I am aware that is mathematically and logically nonsensical. That is, in fact, the point.

* feels sorry for your loss *
- Oilhab

I would appreciate sincere TP next time please.

That is exactly what happened with the last new car.
- Aetherial

that's why you buy a car with stick transmission.

So I guess we wont see hockey this year??

that's why you buy a car with stick transmission.
- prock

OK that is hilarious. I am looking at trading in my Altima for a Mazda speed 3 or a Focus ST. My wife is complaining because they are both stick LOL.

So I guess we wont see hockey this year??
- Flyers_1488

You and I won't, but there are certain cities that haven't seen it for years...they probably don't care.