Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Ghost Suspended, Phantoms Rally for a Point

Does seem to be total overkill against the ghost.

Happy 2013, everyone. Heres to Hoping that the hockey cliff will be solved today to start the new year off right.

Does seem to be total overkill against the ghost.

Happy 2013, everyone. Heres to Hoping that the hockey cliff will be solved today to start the new year off right.
- FlyersFirst

It was expected with a slash to the groin area. IIHF doesn't waste time or mess around.

Happy New Year all!!!
Wow Ghost is pretty feisty for a wood nymph

Unlike the NHL, the IIHF doesn't go light on the supplemental discipline. That was a dirty move, and I don't know if you've never taken a shot to the cup before, but it still hurts. A lot.

He's lucky that's all he got, and he had better hope he doesn't get a reputation as a dirty player. If he did that in an NHL game, you'd be seeing a Lucic or a McGrattan or an Orr climbing over his team's boards after Gostisbehere's penalty expired to have a word with him on the true meaning of 'supplemental discipline'.

Unlike the NHL, the IIHF doesn't go light on the supplemental discipline. That was a dirty move, and I don't know if you've never taken a shot to the cup before, but it still hurts. A lot.

He's lucky that's all he got, and he had better hope he doesn't get a reputation as a dirty player. If he did that in an NHL game, you'd be seeing a Lucic or a McGrattan or an Orr climbing over his team's boards after Gostisbehere's penalty expired to have a word with him on the true meaning of 'supplemental discipline'.
- saul91

I think I agree. A shot to the jewels is nothing to take lightly.

Serious reaction: "Absolutely supplement discipline. It was unwarranted and could have done some damage. Ghost did it with the intent to injure."

Personal reaction: "Matis is a joke. Takes two strides and then collapses almost as badly as Kris Letang. Guy gave him a chop between the legs, it's not like he's getting any anyway, amirite? Grow a sack, no worse than that time Giroux skated to the bench and chopped that Bruins' D-man in the back of the legs."

Matis' behavior was scrotally inappropriate!

That was a nice dive. Why do euros do it all the time?

That was a nice dive. Why do euros do it all the time?
- 2Real

Because it's the only way to get a call in most European leagues. If you try to fight through the check, the refs don't call anything even if you are obviously impeded. Go down and they make the call nine times out of ten.

Nice to see Marcel Noebels get the call up to the Phantoms.

Nice to see Marcel Noebels get the call up to the Phantoms.
- ob18

Nice, sounds like he's making some noise. Good for him! Especially if the lockout is over soon, the phantoms will need some more depth.

That was a nice dive. Why do euros do it all the time?
- 2Real

They see the success players have in soccer (i.e. football ex-US)

Da (not funking) Man

It was expected with a slash to the groin area. IIHF doesn't waste time or mess around.
- ob18

Unless it was in return for a like infrancton, that was a low class, stupid, immature move.

End the lockout...times yours

Unless it was in return for a like infrancton, that was a low class, stupid, immature move.
- Daman

We've seen Briere do it numerous times... Lots of guys pull that unfortunately. You might as well just slash the guy. Hurts just as much and while youll still get a penalty you won't really risk getting a misconduct or some nonsense.

Because it's the only way to get a call in most European leagues. If you try to fight through the check, the refs don't call anything even if you are obviously impeded. Go down and they make the call nine times out of ten.
- bmeltzer

What happened to toughness, working hard, and ignoring the bs and not ask for the refs to bail you out?

They see the success players have in soccer (i.e. football ex-US)

Da (not funking) Man
- Daman

Soccer is unwatchable... just a bunch of wanna be athletes looking for handouts from the refs so they can get a bs goal

talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill on that gostisbehere slashing penalty/ suspension, he barely touched the guy. and what's worse is if (frank)tard shanahan sticks around in his position he'll gladly use that against the flyers, he sure loves to hand out bullpoop suspensions against the o&b.

talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill on that gostisbehere slashing penalty/ suspension, he barely touched the guy. and what's worse is if (frank)tard shanahan sticks around in his position he'll gladly use that against the flyers, he sure loves to hand out bullpoop suspensions against the o&b.
- flyerscup2011

Shanahan using this against the Flyers? A mountain out of a mole hill is right.

Shanahan using this against the Flyers? A mountain out of a mole hill is right.
- hereticpride

the old me would have said something nasty back to you, but the new me doesn't care whether people agree with me or not. i know my opinions vary from what others may think, and you don't have to like what i say. go flyers!

the old me would have said something nasty back to you, but the new me doesn't care whether people agree with me or not. i know my opinions vary from what others may think, and you don't have to like what i say. go flyers!
- flyerscup2011

Not trying to be mean or anything but really, it's not likely Ghost will even be sniffing the NHL these next few seasons and it's not like he laid a guy out with an elbow or anything. I don't know how an NHL disciplinarian would hold this against a young player down the line.

the old me would have said something nasty back to you, but the new me doesn't care whether people agree with me or not. i know my opinions vary from what others may think, and you don't have to like what i say. go flyers!
- flyerscup2011

Just for the record, there were 4 Flyers suspensions last year (Sestito and Shelley in the preseason, Rinaldo in the reg, and G in Round 2). There were 5 suspensions last year for infractions AGAINST the Flyers. If you want to argue the length/severity of the suspensions that's fine. But it's not like they were being victimized more than another team. From what I see, the most suspensions against any team last year was 5, against the NHL's favorite team, Phoenix (including 3 in the play-offs).

Unless it was in return for a like infrancton, that was a low class, stupid, immature move.
- Daman

That stuff happens a lot more frequently than people think. Hell i have been victim and have victimized people myself. Especially as a center...

Just for the record, there were 4 Flyers suspensions last year (Sestito and Shelley in the preseason, Rinaldo in the reg, and G in Round 2). There were 5 suspensions last year for infractions AGAINST the Flyers. If you want to argue the length/severity of the suspensions that's fine. But it's not like they were being victimized more than another team. From what I see, the most suspensions against any team last year was 5, against the NHL's favorite team, Phoenix (including 3 in the play-offs).
- jmatchett

i thought rinaldo's and giroux's suspensions were iffy to say the least, the ones on sestito and shelley were undefendable. the pens deserved far worse than what they got discipline wise, heck i think crosby and malkin should have atleast gotten a meeting for constantly attacking giroux's wrists when it had nothing to do with the play.