Would like to see the Flyers go after Leddy, he's the kind of puck mover they need. With Coburn, Schenn and Grossmann they have more than enough size and grit.

Would offer Matt Read and a 1st for Leddy, seems about right to me.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

If they are going to trade Leddy or Hjalmarsson for a forward, it is going to have to be a center who can win draws. Pass.

Would like to see the Flyers go after Leddy, he's the kind of puck mover they need. With Coburn, Schenn and Grossmann they have more than enough size and grit.

Would offer Matt Read and a 1st for Leddy, seems about right to me.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

sorry buddy, not for leddy. it's courturier or no deal. young stud for young stud. i am sure stan bowman isn't that naive!
ps. after the hawks, i am a flyer fan going back to the 70's as my 2nd favorite team! loved the bullies & kate smith! was fortunate enough to see her sing live as a younger person at a flyer game back then!so i also want to see the flyers make hay just like the hawks!

Would like to see the Flyers go after Leddy, he's the kind of puck mover they need. With Coburn, Schenn and Grossmann they have more than enough size and grit.

Would offer Matt Read and a 1st for Leddy, seems about right to me.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

If Leddy gets moved, it will likely a be part of a package that brings back a goalie who is an NHL upgrade over Crawford this year

If Leddy gets moved, it will likely a be part of a package that brings back a goalie who is an NHL upgrade over Crawford this year
- John Jaeckel

Think Anderson might be on the table? Would Ottawa be willing to go with a rookie tandem?

Think Anderson might be on the table? Would Ottawa be willing to go with a rookie tandem?
- Return of the Roar

respectfully, andersson IS NOT an upgrade over corey crawford.

Reads natural position is actually center, but he can play all forward positions equally well. Read will never be a star player, but he is a very versatile player who can fit in anywhere on a 2nd line or he can anchor a 3rd line.
The Flyers used him as a pointman on the pp and as a regular on the pk and he did very well in both spots.

I would actually hate to see Read go, he is a very smart player and a very good skater, but the Flyers could really use a young puck mover on D, so I think its a deal worth doing for both teams.
- BiggE

RotR said it best, however. Read's strong suit is not face-offs, which is what the 'Hawks really need. Right now the only consistent winners they have are Toews and Mayers. Kane, Kruger, and Bolland are all under 49%. Need a major upgrade there to play the puck possession game. Hence, Read for Leddy doesn't make a lot of sense.

You know what you are 'Grit? You're what I call a real Richard. Mr Richard Head.



My apologies if you haven't seen Cedar Rapids and miss the reference - not a true insult intended.

Question about your opinion of Burmistrov - do you really think he has that type of upside? Kid's got sick hands, but from what I've seen, the effort is severely lacking. Can't say I saw a ton of Jets games last season, but what I saw didn't impress me much. Makes me wonder if 'Peg would really ask for a king's ransom for him. Although not that I really want him anyway...
- FredoXV

No problem, I can take out far more than I give. I enjoy it.

I would inquire to JJ, AL and Wiz to maybe get their view on him. My analysis is that he is an elite skater with grit and great hands. Plays PK. Think he suffers from same issues as a Kruger in that they are young and smaller and have been banged up a bit concussion wise? if I remember right.

I do not think effort has ever been his problem, just health. If JJ, Al, Wiz or any others would chime in please do. I would be interested in their more informed reads.

respectfully, andersson IS NOT an upgrade over corey crawford.
- wonthecup10

I tend to agree. I wonder if Stan knows that. That is why I asked if he might have been the goalie being dangled by OTT.

No worries though. stan is more afraid of making a mistake than a real deal for a real need. So no deals will get done, and Q will run his top eight into the ground.

If Leddy gets moved, it will likely a be part of a package that brings back a goalie who is an NHL upgrade over Crawford this year
- John Jaeckel

I would take that.

respectfully, andersson IS NOT an upgrade over corey crawford.
- wonthecup10

Agree, plus he's north of 30. He had that one really hot start in Colorado a couple seasons back, but really crashed, as I recall. Not a horrible, but not the degree of upgrade the 'Hawks should be seeking if they move a quality Dman.

Stan should not be dealing for anyone unless they can stop the puck better than Crawford or win faceoffs. Got plenty of bottom six forwards who don't play center already.
- Return of the Roar

10000% agreed.

Burmistrov - Doesn't fit the bill at all, other than being a left handed center. He's tiny, never tallied more than 28 points and his career high faceoff percentage is 44%. How you rank him higher than Gagner (who I also dislike) is difficult to understand. He looks like he fits the bill of the Russian stererotype - lots of skill, zero heart.

Stastny/O'Reilly - O'Reilly is the one I would covet. Big bodied, left handed center who wins draws and has decent playmaking ability. He's not an overly physical player (62 hit last year), but one really telling stat about him is his 50 blocked shots. Kid's got heart. I highly doubt the Avs are looking to move him after his career year last season, but he is an RFA at present, so who knows. I imagine he’s seeking a substantial payday right now.
Like Stastny as well, he’s cut from the same cloth as O’Reilly to a degree, with possibly higher offensive upside, although O’Reilly’s still young, so who knows. But, I highly doubt the ‘Hawks are looking to take on another $6M+ contract headed into next season’s reduced salary cap. My guess is that the Av’s will be more willing to move him than O’Reilly, but would have fewer interested parties due to the price tag.


Couterier - Like this kid a lot, but I think he’s a cornerstone of future plans in Philly. The asking price would be outlandish. I.e., Philly’s not moving him. At least until he signs a big contract, then he’s moved out of town for sure. 

Nielsen - I’m iffy on him. Undersized playmaking center with a decent price tag, although he is older. Although I’m not a huge proponent of judging a forward by +/-, he was a +13 in the 2010-11 season on an Islanders team that ranked 27th in goals allowed per game (3.15), so that’s saying something. Not great on faceoffs though, which is really what the ‘Hawks need.

Gagner - Don’t like him. Small, right-handed, soft, and horrible at faceoffs. He has a ton of ability, and one wonders if a change of scenery and system might allow him to flourish. He’s an RFA next season with a current price tag of $3.2M, so one wonders if the Oil might be willing to move him. Although nothing about him sounds appealing to me, there is something there that makes me slightly curious - if he were to have Kane or Hossa on his wing. I’d take him readily before Burmistrov, though.
- FredoXV

Statsny + Hossa = holotta goals and the Sharp, Toews, Kane line can run all over people. That solves so many problems. AND he only has one year left on his deal so if they need to buy out or move someone they should be able to do so with relative ease.

Plus you have 2 guys in Hoss and Statsny that are strong on their skates, they can cycle and cycle and cycle and wear down teams real bad.

If Colorado is willing to come off him and doesn't require an elite back then that should be an easy deal to make.

RotR said it best, however. Read's strong suit is not face-offs, which is what the 'Hawks really need. Right now the only consistent winners they have are Toews and Mayers. Kane, Kruger, and Bolland are all under 49%. Need a major upgrade there to play the puck possession game. Hence, Read for Leddy doesn't make a lot of sense.
- FredoXV

Agreed. I think the standard if we are looking for a C is they have to be better than either Kruger or Bolland. Personally I see this as a make or break season for Kruger to show he has the potential to do either 2c or 3c. So be in.

I'd be open to trading either Hammer or Leddy, whichever brings us back a younger, stud goalie. But no more cheap bean-counter moves like Anderson or even Nabokov.

10000% agreed.
- victorymc98

X a fuggickingmillionnnnn


-Real #2 Center or Real Goalie for Leddy or Hammer.




This is the first deal that needs to be made.

I'd be all for trading Leddy or Hammer for a legit 2C.

If you instead trade one of those guys for a better top 4 D man or a G, they still have the option of using Bolland in a deal for a 2C and letting Kruger take over the 3C role where he's better suited at this stage of career (as opposed to the 2C role).

Hopefully Stan is able to do something, because on paper right now, this team doesn't have enough to get to the promised land IMHO.

Statsny + Hossa = holotta goals and the Sharp, Toews, Kane line can run all over people. That solves so many problems. AND he only has one year left on his deal so if they need to buy out or move someone they should be able to do so with relative ease.

Plus you have 2 guys in Hoss and Statsny that are strong on their skates, they can cycle and cycle and cycle and wear down teams real bad.

If Colorado is willing to come off him and doesn't require an elite back then that should be an easy deal to make.
- fattybeef

Leddy, Pirri, and a 3rd for Stastny.

Whoa Brian Burke fired by the Maple Leafs? That'll shake the ground of the entire country.

Off topic, but Bob McKenzie just tweeted Brian Burke fired as Leafs' GM.

I'd be all for trading Leddy or Hammer for a legit 2C.

If you instead trade one of those guys for a better top 4 D man or a G, they still have the option of using Bolland in a deal for a 2C and letting Kruger take over the 3C role where he's better suited at this stage of career (as opposed to the 2C role).

Hopefully Stan is able to do something, because on paper right now, this team doesn't have enough to get to the promised land IMHO.
- Hawksfan37

It's the same team as last year; with a deeper D-core and healthy forwards. If by promised land you mean the playoffs, I disagree - if you mean Cup, I'll side with you.

Leddy, Pirri, and a 3rd for Stastny.
- Ogilthorpe2

Add in Lalonde and you have yourself a deal!

Off topic, but Bob McKenzie just tweeted Brian Burke fired as Leafs' GM.
- MartiniMan

Does that mean they'll be looking to take our assistant GM? That seems to be the trend these days.

Does that mean they'll be looking to take our assistant GM? That seems to be the trend these days.
- DarthKane

Why stop at assistant? Take Stan too.

Would like to see the Flyers go after Leddy, he's the kind of puck mover they need. With Coburn, Schenn and Grossmann they have more than enough size and grit.

Would offer Matt Read and a 1st for Leddy, seems about right to me.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

Both the Flyers and Ottawa are dealing from a considerable position of weakness when it comes to bolstering their defence corps. They are going to have to give up something pretty darn good to get back a defenceman that really helps them.

And even our idiot G.M. knows that. So, I'd be holding out for Coutourier because he solves a problem for us and Leddy solves one for the Flyers. That is unless you would like Steve Montador, and if you do he's free for the asking. Can pair him with Bruno Gervais.

Why stop at assistant? Take Stan too.
- Return of the Roar

a BIG YES SIR! and we'll take brian burke back this way. toronto was just the wrong fit for him ! he's a hell of a hockey guy with a cup on his resume. plus he stiffed bob murray years ago for 1 of the sedin boys!

X a fuggickingmillionnnnn


-Real #2 Center or Real Goalie for Leddy or Hammer.




This is the first deal that needs to be made.
- mrpaulish

Goalie, more than C..