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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 3:07 PM ET
Crombeen was menacing Giroux the prior game. (Silly reason for "revenge" imho, but, whatevs.)
- Scoob


that, i understand. not what i'm talking about. if rinaldo took a borderline liberty with crombeen why should it be expected that VL would hit Talbot square in the face after he was down flat on his back? one has nothing to do with the other.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 7 @ 3:07 PM ET
What was the final decision in the CBA in trading for Cap space?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 7 @ 3:13 PM ET
What was the final decision in the CBA in trading for Cap space?
- jstross

They are no longer going to let Ovi skate through the O zone with nary a defenseman trying to stymie him-- oh. Not what you meant by Cap space. Sorry.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 7 @ 3:15 PM ET
that, i understand. not what i'm talking about. if rinaldo took a borderline liberty with crombeen why should it be expected that VL would hit Talbot square in the face after he was down flat on his back? one has nothing to do with the other.
- hammarby31


Why do fights start after good, clean, hard checks?

Why does Radio Shack as for your zip code when you buy batteries?

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 7 @ 3:15 PM ET
They are no longer going to let Ovi skate through the O zone with nary a defenseman trying to stymie him-- oh. Not what you meant by Cap space. Sorry.
- Flyskippy


Cap space >>> Bottle Cap candy >>>> The old Cap Center
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 7 @ 3:16 PM ET
They are no longer going to let Ovi skate through the O zone with nary a defenseman trying to stymie him-- oh. Not what you meant by Cap space. Sorry.
- Flyskippy


I laughed.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
They are no longer going to let Ovi skate through the O zone with nary a defenseman trying to stymie him-- oh. Not what you meant by Cap space. Sorry.
- Flyskippy



LOL
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
They are no longer going to let Ovi skate through the O zone with nary a defenseman trying to stymie him-- oh. Not what you meant by Cap space. Sorry.
- Flyskippy



hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 3:32 PM ET
Why do fights start after good, clean, hard checks?

Why does Radio Shack as for your zip code when you buy batteries?


- Scoob


#1, it's retaliation against the aggressor, even if it's clean.

#2, market research, data collection, etc. pretty simple.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 7 @ 3:34 PM ET
#1, it's retaliation against the aggressor, even if it's clean.

#2, market research, data collection, etc. pretty simple.

- hammarby31


#1 Well, that's bullpoop
#2 Well, that's bullpoop

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 3:37 PM ET
#1 Well, that's bullpoop
#2 Well, that's bullpoop


- Scoob


Just tell them 94133.

That's the zip code for Alcatraz Island
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 3:58 PM ET
Just tell them 94133.

That's the zip code for Alcatraz Island

- Jsaquella


i usually say 90210.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:00 PM ET
What was the final decision in the CBA in trading for Cap space?
- jstross


In the context of Player Trades, participating Clubs will be permitted to allocate the AA and related Salary and Bonus payment obligations between them, subject to specified parameters (“Retained Salary Transaction”). Specifically, the Club trading a Player may agree to retain a percentage of the SPC’s AA and related Salary and Bonus obligations for each of the remaining years of the Player’s SPC, up to 50% of the SPC’s AA. In each Retained Salary Transaction, the percentage allocation of the retained AA and retained Salary and Bonuses must be the same (i.e., the Salary and Bonus obligations as between Clubs would be allocated on the same percentage basis as the AA being allocated) and cannot be altered from year to year. So, for instance, if an assigning Club agrees to retain 30% of an SPC’s AA over the balance of its term, it will also retain an obligation to reimburse the acquiring Club 30% of the Player’s contractual compensation (Salary and Bonuses) in each of the remaining years of the contract. A Club may have up to a maximum of three (3) SPCs on its Cap per League Year as to which a portion of the AA and Salary have been retained in a Player Trade, provided, however, that the aggregate amount of AA retained by a Club does not exceed 15% of the Upper Limit (e.g., 15% of $70.2 million or $10.53 million in Year 1; 15% of $64.3 million or $9.645 million in Year 2; or $12 million if the Upper Limit equals $80.0 million) in the aggregate for all such contracts in any one year. An SPC can be subject to a Retained Salary Transaction up to a maximum of two (2) times.

The NHL shall promptly disclose the amount of Retained Salary and Bonus obligations in every Retained Salary Transaction to the NHLPA.

In the case of one or more Retained Salary Transactions, and a subsequent SPC “buy-out” or termination such that the SPC is no longer in force, the resulting cash and cap consequences will be divided as between the Club parties to the prior transaction(s) on the same basis they originally agreed upon. In the case of one or more Retained Salary Transactions, and a subsequent Loan of the SPC, the prior Club(s) shall retain their portion of the SPC’s NHL cap charge that they agreed to retain for the balance of the Player’s contract (regardless of whether the Player is ever recalled), but will get the benefit of any reduced cash obligations to the Player during the time he is playing outside the League.

The Player shall be paid by the Club for which he currently plays (or most recently played for).
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:03 PM ET
The names in free agency don't do a thing for me. Hainsey, Vishnovsky, Hamrlik, Gonchar, Streit, Whitney...which one is better all around than Timonen?

The only one that interests me is Streit. The other factor is, I think most of those guys would want a couple years or more. Then you're getting into the area where they have to re-sign Giroux, Couturier, Read and Schenn.

- Jsaquella


Speaking of Schenn, it sure looks like he is more comfortable at center?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:04 PM ET
Just tell them 94133.

That's the zip code for Alcatraz Island

- Jsaquella


Have you been there recently?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:05 PM ET



- mayorofangrytown


Capital Punishment??
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:09 PM ET
if you really "liked" him, you'd spell his name correctly
- Crimsoninja


Mayor's of Angry towns cannot spell, he does like him though
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:11 PM ET
Mayor's of Angry towns cannot spell, he does like him though
- flyerdude17

I spells just fine
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
In the context of Player Trades, participating Clubs will be permitted to allocate the AA and related Salary and Bonus payment obligations between them, subject to specified parameters (“Retained Salary Transaction”). Specifically, the Club trading a Player may agree to retain a percentage of the SPC’s AA and related Salary and Bonus obligations for each of the remaining years of the Player’s SPC, up to 50% of the SPC’s AA. In each Retained Salary Transaction, the percentage allocation of the retained AA and retained Salary and Bonuses must be the same (i.e., the Salary and Bonus obligations as between Clubs would be allocated on the same percentage basis as the AA being allocated) and cannot be altered from year to year. So, for instance, if an assigning Club agrees to retain 30% of an SPC’s AA over the balance of its term, it will also retain an obligation to reimburse the acquiring Club 30% of the Player’s contractual compensation (Salary and Bonuses) in each of the remaining years of the contract. A Club may have up to a maximum of three (3) SPCs on its Cap per League Year as to which a portion of the AA and Salary have been retained in a Player Trade, provided, however, that the aggregate amount of AA retained by a Club does not exceed 15% of the Upper Limit (e.g., 15% of $70.2 million or $10.53 million in Year 1; 15% of $64.3 million or $9.645 million in Year 2; or $12 million if the Upper Limit equals $80.0 million) in the aggregate for all such contracts in any one year. An SPC can be subject to a Retained Salary Transaction up to a maximum of two (2) times.

The NHL shall promptly disclose the amount of Retained Salary and Bonus obligations in every Retained Salary Transaction to the NHLPA.

In the case of one or more Retained Salary Transactions, and a subsequent SPC “buy-out” or termination such that the SPC is no longer in force, the resulting cash and cap consequences will be divided as between the Club parties to the prior transaction(s) on the same basis they originally agreed upon. In the case of one or more Retained Salary Transactions, and a subsequent Loan of the SPC, the prior Club(s) shall retain their portion of the SPC’s NHL cap charge that they agreed to retain for the balance of the Player’s contract (regardless of whether the Player is ever recalled), but will get the benefit of any reduced cash obligations to the Player during the time he is playing outside the League.

The Player shall be paid by the Club for which he currently plays (or most recently played for).

- NickTheKid87


Sheez, my head hurts.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:13 PM ET



- mayorofangrytown



NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:14 PM ET
Sheez, my head hurts.
- jstross


That's directly from the CBA.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 7 @ 4:25 PM ET
I spells just fine
- mayorofangrytown


Ok, I beleeve yu
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 7 @ 4:25 PM ET
That's directly from the CBA.
- NickTheKid87


Lawyers, ugh
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
That's directly from the CBA.
- NickTheKid87


That was MJL's favorite post of the day. He liked it so much he hasn't even said "I disagree" yet.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
Speaking of Schenn, it sure looks like he is more comfortable at center?
- flyerdude17


Agree. I prefer him at center.
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