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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
sometimes less is more.
- hammarby31


Not when it comes to Da Man's posts.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:49 PM ET
I spells just fine
- mayorofangrytown



pretty sure you need an apostrophe in "spells"
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:50 PM ET
According to TSN it is.. well played Timmmay..

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415479

- Hextall271




look at the picture with the article
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:54 PM ET
That's actually a great move for both teams. Isles get cap filler that doesn;t cost them a penny and Bruins get cap space
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
That's actually a great move for both teams. Isles get cap filler that doesn;t cost them a penny and Bruins get cap space
- Jsaquella


pretty tired of both of them tbh
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:58 PM ET
look at the picture with the article
- Don'tForgetTocchet


This is better

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
pretty tired of both of them tbh
- Don'tForgetTocchet


I would love to see the NHL tell them the deal is voided as an obvious cap circumvention and take picks from both
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:00 PM ET
This is better


- Jsaquella


Yeah, they may have gotten the pic wrong.. is that Kevin Weekes?
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Feb 7 @ 6:01 PM ET
Eklund's saying that the Bruins traded Tim Thomas to the Islanders...WTF?
- Jsaquella


Garth Snow (x-goalie) loves his goalies... He always tries to corner the goalie market.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 7 @ 6:01 PM ET
This is better


- Jsaquella


The acquisition of Tim Thomas will only cost the New York Islanders a draft pick if he actually reports to them. In other words, if Thomas doesn't play, the Islanders don't have to give up a second rounder. The question now is if the Islanders will toll his contract in the hope that he decides to play in the 2013-14 campaign. As it is, the odds of Thomas returning this season are slim to none.
Source: Bob McKenzie on Twitter
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:02 PM ET
Yeah, they may have gotten the pic wrong.. is that Kevin Weekes?
- Hextall271


Nope. Former Sixer Tim Thomas.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:02 PM ET
I would love to see the NHL tell them the deal is voided as an obvious cap circumvention and take picks from both
- Jsaquella


That would rock..
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:03 PM ET
The acquisition of Tim Thomas will only cost the New York Islanders a draft pick if he actually reports to them. In other words, if Thomas doesn't play, the Islanders don't have to give up a second rounder. The question now is if the Islanders will toll his contract in the hope that he decides to play in the 2013-14 campaign. As it is, the odds of Thomas returning this season are slim to none.
Source: Bob McKenzie on Twitter

- stveshdy


It's a cap circumvention deal, no two ways about it. The Bruins gain $5mm in cap room and the Isles are above the cap floor and not spending a dime on Thomas' salary.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:03 PM ET
Nope. Former Sixer Tim Thomas.
- Jsaquella


Oh god.. how do you make that mistake...?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 7 @ 6:03 PM ET
Was Timmy Thomas eligible for the compliance buyout or no?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 7 @ 6:05 PM ET
It's a cap circumvention deal, no two ways about it. The Bruins gain $5mm in cap room and the Isles are above the cap floor and not spending a dime on Thomas' salary.
- Jsaquella


The Bruins now have some $ to upgrade their roster.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
This is better


- Jsaquella




Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:08 PM ET
Was Timmy Thomas eligible for the compliance buyout or no?
- NickTheKid87


Yes, but it'd be pointless to buy him out for the Bruins. Still have to carry his cap hit for this season and this is the last year of the deal. He's suspended by Boston, so he's not getting paid at all.

The Isles are basically taking on a $5mm cap hit, but not paying the guy a cent, and they can toll the contract and carry the hit an extra year if they need to reach the floor or if they find a trade partner for Thomas(assuming he returns after this season)
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:08 PM ET
The Bruins now have some $ to upgrade their roster.
- stveshdy

Yep. It's a slick move by both teams.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 7 @ 6:10 PM ET
Yes, but it'd be pointless to buy him out for the Bruins. Still have to carry his cap hit for this season and this is the last year of the deal. He's suspended by Boston, so he's not getting paid at all.

The Isles are basically taking on a $5mm cap hit, but not paying the guy a cent, and they can toll the contract and carry the hit an extra year if they need to reach the floor or if they find a trade partner for Thomas(assuming he returns after this season)

- Jsaquella


Ah forgot it was the last year of his deal. Thanks!

By the way, commenting from my phone sucks.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:12 PM ET
Ah forgot it was the last year of his deal. Thanks!

By the way, commenting from my phone sucks.

- NickTheKid87


I have a lot of trouble from my phone, too.

According to David Pagnotta of the 4th Period, the Isles will NOT toll the contract.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 7 @ 6:12 PM ET
Yep. It's a slick move by both teams.
- Jsaquella


Da Man agrees with your fine comment and no way this should be voided. On what grounds?

Do we want the NHL to get in the business of judging intent as an override to existing laws? Gotta be kidding me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
It's a cap circumvention deal, no two ways about it. The Bruins gain $5mm in cap room and the Isles are above the cap floor and not spending a dime on Thomas' salary.
- Jsaquella


As I see it, it's really not. It's really no different then a player on a 35+ deal retiring, and having to carry the Cap hit. This is another one of those unforeseen loopholes. The NHLPA might not like it, but they benefited for years with players getting paid money outside of the system, with front loaded deals that saw a players Cap hit much lower then his salary.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:15 PM ET
Da Man agrees with your fine comment and no way this should be voided. On what grounds?

Do we want the NHL to get in the business of judging intent as an override to existing laws? Gotta be kidding me.

- Daman


Because it's an obvious salary cap circumvention. There's clauses in the CBA that allow the commissioner to void any trade or contract that is a blatant attempt to circumvent the salary cap or floor.

That's why the original Ilya Kovalchuk deal with the Devils got rejected and the Devils will forfeit a first round pick either this summer or next.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 6:19 PM ET
As I see it, it's really not. It's really no different then a player on a 35+ deal retiring, and having to carry the Cap hit. This is another one of those unforeseen loopholes. The NHLPA might not like it, but they benefited for years with players getting paid money outside of the system, with front loaded deals that saw a players Cap hit much lower then his salary.
- MJL


It's a floor circumvention by the Isles. They're not paying Thomas, he's suspended. If he doesn't play for the Islanders, the Bruins get no pick or other asset. The commissioner has the ability to step in an nix the deal.

I doubt he will, for the reasons you state. This helps two teams and one very powerful owner.
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