Which is why I'll reiterate my last trade proposal.... (even though I know it wont happen).

Yak and Smid to Boston for Dougie Hamilton and Horton.

Pending UFA each way and rookie each way.....discuss....
- Iggysbff

Interesting. Horton has concussion problems which I think lowers his value a bit, but he is worth more than smid. Yakupov and hamilton's worth might almost be considered a wash. I want to lean and say yak is worth more in vale due to draft status, but not sure how much water that holds to be honest. I would strongly consider this. But would be afraid of Horton not resigning and smid loving it on Boston on a winnig team. So yak and smid for Hamilton is not worth it.

I'd do yak and a pick for seguin. Seguin plays Wing anyways. So Boston fills a hole.


Edit: this allows us to use gagner and hemsky and maybe smid to get a winger with top 6 grit.

Which is why I'll reiterate my last trade proposal.... (even though I know it wont happen).

Yak and Smid to Boston for Dougie Hamilton and Horton.

Pending UFA each way and rookie each way.....discuss....
- Iggysbff

Thank god you're not the Oilers GM

Thank god you're not the Oilers GM
- Reveen

I've already stated I'm against trading any of the kids. It's more just to get some convo going....

I've already stated I'm against trading any of the kids. It's more just to get some convo going....
- Iggysbff

If we trade Yak, we need to get a more proven player than Hamilton.

If we trade Yak, we need to get a more proven player than Hamilton.
- Reveen

Hamilton's a stud. Not many D men make it in the league at 19 and he's done quite well. I'd at least consider a Yak for hamilton swap.

Management needs to not do anything stupid or irrational in an attempt to make the playoffs. Make small tweaks if good opportunities arise, other than that, stay the course. Don't be stupid (read: Feaster).

The expected result for this year was improvement, so a finish in the 18-26 rank is reasonable, though I'd like to see them playing meaningful games til the last few games anyways.

Interesting. Horton has concussion problems which I think lowers his value a bit, but he is worth more than smid. Yakupov and hamilton's worth might almost be considered a wash. I want to lean and say yak is worth more in vale due to draft status, but not sure how much water that holds to be honest. I would strongly consider this. But would be afraid of Horton not resigning and smid loving it on Boston on a winnig team. So yak and smid for Hamilton is not worth it.

I'd do yak and a pick for seguin. Seguin plays Wing anyways. So Boston fills a hole.


Edit: this allows us to use gagner and hemsky and maybe smid to get a winger with top 6 grit.
- ystoil

Do you watch Yak play? His back checking is amazing. He has way more speed than Horton and will easily be a better player (Horton looked good before injuries). Yak until lately has been playing with a terrible line and with no ice time but he is 18. We don't need a 19 year old dman for him. Then our d is all rookies where statistically dmen hit their prime later than forwards.

Yak is our winger of the future, Sequin is not as good and has less potential. Give the guy more than a quarter of a regular season before you give up on him. Yak could get us an elite dman straight across and you want to add a pick for a player that would be our third line center.

Do you watch Yak play? His back checking is amazing. He has way more speed than Horton and will easily be a better player (Horton looked good before injuries). Yak until lately has been playing with a terrible line and with no ice time but he is 18. We don't need a 19 year old dman for him. Then our d is all rookies where statistically dmen hit their prime later than forwards.

Yak is our winger of the future, Sequin is not as good and has less potential. Give the guy more than a quarter of a regular season before you give up on him. Yak could get us an elite dman straight across and you want to add a pick for a player that would be our third line center.
- bsteinley

I agree that Yak is young and full of potential. Nobody here's giving up on him. He just doesn't address a need. Also Seguin is already a star. Those are tough shoes to fill.

Keep Smid, Fistric and Gags

It would be nice to keep Jones, but he will look for a big paycheque in the offseason. And since we have Horcoff and Symth there is no room unless it is buyout time.

Whitney wants to be in the east.

Do you watch Yak play? His back checking is amazing. He has way more speed than Horton and will easily be a better player (Horton looked good before injuries). Yak until lately has been playing with a terrible line and with no ice time but he is 18. We don't need a 19 year old dman for him. Then our d is all rookies where statistically dmen hit their prime later than forwards.

Yak is our winger of the future, Sequin is not as good and has less potential. Give the guy more than a quarter of a regular season before you give up on him. Yak could get us an elite dman straight across and you want to add a pick for a player that would be our third line center.
- bsteinley

I do watch yak play. He back checks but his positioning isn't great which accounts for some, not all of his terrible +\-. I also didn't compare Horton to yak...

At this point seguin is MUCH better than yakupov. Maybe yak has more potential (iw wouldnt say much more) but your statement simply isn't true. Giving up on him? I'm looking to improve the team with an all star centre to play our second or first line. How do you know that pick would be our third line centre? That pick could be nothing or it could be an all star. But it's a pick and you are overvaluing it. You made no sense there and put words in my mouth.

Edit: my bad I misunderstood your reference to the third line centre. Seguin would be our first line centre if the nuge keeps struggling offensively. Gagner becomes expendible.

Watching Tyler Toffoli last night, I really hope he plays like your younger players. Probably not, but he looked pretty good.

Watching Tyler Toffoli last night, I really hope he plays like your younger players. Probably not, but he looked pretty good.
- Deadmau55

Great second round pickup. Sucks because we could've had him but pitlick was slated as a possible first rounder.

Still like the yakupov, klefbomb, hemsky, and our first and second round picks to buffalo for myers, pommonville , and vanek... If buffalo wants to blow things up then let's make a blockbuster

Still like the yakupov, klefbomb, hemsky, and our first and second round picks to buffalo for myers, pommonville , and vanek... If buffalo wants to blow things up then let's make a blockbuster
- Snagglepuss

worst proposal ever.....

Stewart's value is pretty high right now, wouldn't be surprised to see him get traded.
Great player, consistency is an issue with him.
- JVR2112

See this is why StL has a great team. They have a player who is all up and down. They hang onto him and when he goes up they trade him.

In Oilerland they give him a massive raise and long term extension and watch him depreciate.

Anyone who says the Oilers have a chance of making the playoffs this year or any year until they address the holes in the line up is filled with a big steamy load of brown bananas.
1)Big winger with toughness and scoring.
2)Center with size,offence and shutdown ability.
3)Top pairing defenseman that actually gets mentioned in opposing team's dressing rooms. Do you really think there's anyone in the league talking about "what we have to do to get by Smid/Schultz/Petry? Noooo chanceee Mr.Whalen,Nooo Chancee.

Sorry, none of these can be addressed at the draft, we have to either make trades or sign a free agent.In otherwords, Tambo actually has to do some meaningful work. Any dummy can pick 1st overall, but we need a Sather-esque trade to take place if we don't want more of the same for next year.

And I don't want to hear anymore about our 4th line! If we live and die within 6 minutes a night there are bigger problems that we think.

Sorry for the rant, just tired of Tambo doing nothing but flash that smug grin.

Anyone who says the Oilers have a chance of making the playoffs this year or any year until they address the holes in the line up is filled with a big steamy load of brown bananas.
1)Big winger with toughness and scoring.
2)Center with size,offence and shutdown ability.
3)Top pairing defenseman that actually gets mentioned in opposing team's dressing rooms. Do you really think there's anyone in the league talking about "what we have to do to get by Smid/Schultz/Petry? Noooo chanceee Mr.Whalen,Nooo Chancee.

Sorry, none of these can be addressed at the draft, we have to either make trades or sign a free agent.In otherwords, Tambo actually has to do some meaningful work. Any dummy can pick 1st overall, but we need a Sather-esque trade to take place if we don't want more of the same for next year.

And I don't want to hear anymore about our 4th line! If we live and die within 6 minutes a night there are bigger problems that we think.

Sorry for the rant, just tired of Tambo doing nothing but flash that smug grin.

Yes they do
- VANTEL

dude, we've established ur generally confused on anything outside of vancouver. (even then...)

mike brown has been pretty good for us since acquiring him. hes filled that role well. i suppose if we could find another guy who has some skills as well as being tough that wouldnt hurt, but its not a major problem.

as the other dude said. toughness and size in the top 6 is MUCH more important presently than in the bottom 6

Do you watch Yak play? His back checking is amazing. He has way more speed than Horton and will easily be a better player (Horton looked good before injuries). Yak until lately has been playing with a terrible line and with no ice time but he is 18. We don't need a 19 year old dman for him. Then our d is all rookies where statistically dmen hit their prime later than forwards.

Yak is our winger of the future, Sequin is not as good and has less potential. Give the guy more than a quarter of a regular season before you give up on him. Yak could get us an elite dman straight across and you want to add a pick for a player that would be our third line center.
- bsteinley

seguin our 3rd line center?? is this serious?
hes better than the nuge or gagner.
who's better long term between the nuge and him is debateable.. but not right now.
gagners playing great offensively right now and i really like what he brings, but seguin is another class.

and at the moment the gap is even bigger between him and yakupov than it is the 2 centers i just mentioned... and it's not close.
one is an all star center. the other is a struggling rookie who is a non factor alot of nights.
yaks shows some flashes and i believe he'll be fine, but there's no comparison right now between the two

u must be thinking of someone else. not tyler seguin

See this is why StL has a great team. They have a player who is all up and down. They hang onto him and when he goes up they trade him.

In Oilerland they give him a massive raise and long term extension and watch him depreciate.
- yaktalksback

i could absolutely see this happening. we sign stewart for big dollars and he has a 35+ point season.

i believe offensively stewarts ceiling is much higher than clowes, but i think ryan fits better.
he shows up every night and he can fill so many more roles than stewart does. even if hes not providing offence, he's still valuable. whereas stewart can be a ghost.

as hes a free agent soon, wait till the offseason and throw some money at clowe. dont break the bank for the guy, but he'd def help.

as its edmonton, there's no guarantees any impact free agent gonna sign with us. especially if we pull another bottom 5 finish.
but if we were able to use that first to acquire a top 4 dman that's got a year or two left and we're able to string a few wins together towards the end (whether we got in or not) i think it'd go along way to showing our progression. which would also make u a much more desirable destination.

right now or after another bottom feeder finish, we still have no idea whether the rebuild works or not, and are getting into real laughing stock territory. (leafs, islanders)

Hamilton's a stud. Not many D men make it in the league at 19 and he's done quite well. I'd at least consider a Yak for hamilton swap.
- TheNugeIsHuge

He can be sheltered in Boston, here he would get thrown to the wolves make mistakes and lose his confidence

He can be sheltered in Boston, here he would get thrown to the wolves make mistakes and lose his confidence
- patheticgirl43

agreed. its tough for rookie dmen. especially on a team like edm where our goaltending is a question mark and he'd be a top pairing guy pretty quickly.

but just for argument sake, let say they both fulfill all the hype.
yaks turns into a bure/ovechkin type and hamilton turns into a pronger type.

which would u rather have on the oilers?

id take hamilton in a heartbeat

agreed. its tough for rookie dmen. especially on a team like edm where our goaltending is a question mark and he'd be a top pairing guy pretty quickly.

but just for argument sake, let say they both fulfill all the hype.
yaks turns into a bure/ovechkin type and hamilton turns into a pronger type.

which would u rather have on the oilers?

id take hamilton in a heartbeat
- hugefemale dog77

I think most would.

Avery Gayme is is a muss winn, RC