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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
What are the chances Vancouver trades away some bigger name players to get a rebuild going? It's looking more and more like they're going to need one, especially with a tough division next year.
- bluecoconuts


Rephrase that to a re-tool and even than it might be a little too much fantasy. This team is still extremely strong, with a goalie to trade. If we were looking to re-tool there's three players I could see being moved, but it's not gonna happen. Luongo, Kesler and Edler. Luongo for Bjugstad, Kesler for Myers and Edler for Couturier..........
bluecoconuts
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
Rephrase that to a re-tool and even than it might be a little too much fantasy. This team is still extremely strong, with a goalie to trade. If we were looking to re-tool there's three players I could see being moved, but it's not gonna happen. Luongo, Kesler and Edler. Luongo for Bjugstad, Kesler for Myers and Edler for Couturier..........
- Boinker


Well yeah, I guess a re-tool would be more accurate.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:32 PM ET
This will not be a popular post , but our PP has been dry because everyone knows what is going to happen. Forty five seconds of the PP will be controlled by the Sedins passing it back and forth leaving an actual PP of 75 seconds. Hamhuis does not have a great shot nor does Shroeder or D Sedin from the point.

I think the Sedins should be split on the PP and have Hank on the first unit with Raymond or Burrows and Kassian Garisson and Bieksa
Second unit should be Kesler Daniel and Hansen Tanev and Edler .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
So if Booth is gone for a long time then he can not be bought out during the summer
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Mar 18 @ 6:35 PM ET
This will not be a popular post , but our PP has been dry because everyone knows what is going to happen. Forty five seconds of the PP will be controlled by the Sedins passing it back and forth leaving an actual PP of 75 seconds. Hamhuis does not have a great shot nor does Shroeder or D Sedin from the point.

I think the Sedins should be split on the PP and have Hank on the first unit with Raymond or Burrows and Kassian Garisson and Bieksa
Second unit should be Kesler Daniel and Hansen Tanev and Edler .

- VANTEL


We've adopted your drop pass in the neutral zone, and nothing frustrates me more. It's so predictable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:37 PM ET
We've adopted your drop pass in the neutral zone, and nothing frustrates me more. It's so predictable.
- Michael_Stuart



Yep that is why Canucks have trouble scoring what ever happened to put a big body in front of the net for a screen or a tip and blast it from the point. We have become to European with the style of PP . Too many passes .
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:42 PM ET
Stajan is a center which you need, he would rank 3rd on the Canucks in points and 2nd in plus minus. This all playing on all 4 lines. Booth has one goal empty net and is gonna be bought out. Stajan>booth this why you would be giving up a prospect. Maybe not Jensen but that's why I threw in the pick. if we threw in iggy instead you would have to add a lot more then booth Jensen
- Redmile247


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:49 PM ET
So if Booth is gone for a long time then he can not be bought out during the summer
- VANTEL


He is listed as day to day on TSN, is there something new?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:52 PM ET

- 1970vintage

I know. Someone got into their parents medicine cabinet, again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:53 PM ET
He is listed as day to day on TSN, is there something new?
- 1970vintage



I don't know last I heard was the other day when they said it could be a high ankle sprain.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 18 @ 6:53 PM ET
He is listed as day to day on TSN, is there something new?
- 1970vintage

MRI tomorrow I believe, them we'll all know more. TSN probably just being cautious until then. I had Havlat in my pool and he was listed as day-to-day for weeks.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
So if Booth is gone for a long time then he can not be bought out during the summer
- VANTEL

Oh don't worry according so some on here he is easily tradable so you'll be fine
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 18 @ 6:56 PM ET
What are the chances Vancouver trades away some bigger name players to get a rebuild going? It's looking more and more like they're going to need one, especially with a tough division next year.
- bluecoconuts


Our players if we put no limits on we could get all the prospects for the oilers and have some room for more. A rebuild isn't neccesary well have one bad year not make the playoffs to get a high draft pick like before naslund bertuzzi and morrison times then slowly rise back to the top, but thats 3 years from now.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 18 @ 6:59 PM ET
I know. Someone got into their parents medicine cabinet, again.
- Marwood

Stats don't lie lol just sayin , but I'm glad some Canucks fans can have a laugh
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Mar 18 @ 7:02 PM ET
Rephrase that to a re-tool and even than it might be a little too much fantasy. This team is still extremely strong, with a goalie to trade. If we were looking to re-tool there's three players I could see being moved, but it's not gonna happen. Luongo, Kesler and Edler. Luongo for Bjugstad, Kesler for Myers and Edler for Couturier..........
- Boinker

I get that Luongo still has much value, but Bjugstad has the potential to be a beast in the NHL, not sure Florida would be doing themselves any favors by trading away a top prospect(2-way center) with his potential and size for a Goalie on the down slope of his career not to mention the contract they'd be taking on. Obviously Bjugstad will be unproven until he decides to leave Minnesota, but I still think he's to valuable even as an unproven commodity to be traded before he even steps foot on an NHL rink.

Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Mar 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
I get that Luongo still has much value, but Bjugstad has the potential to be a beast in the NHL, not sure Florida would be doing themselves any favors by trading away a top prospect(2-way center) with his potential and size for a Goalie on the down slope of his career not to mention the contract they'd be taking on. Obviously Bjugstad will be unproven until he decides to leave Minnesota, but I still think he's to valuable even as an unproven commodity to be traded before he even steps foot on an NHL rink.
- MnGump


Ya I can't see them trading Bjugstad. He's their future second center but someone equal to his value as of now.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 18 @ 7:10 PM ET
So if Booth is gone for a long time then he can not be bought out during the summer
- VANTEL

There's always next summer.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 18 @ 7:21 PM ET
There's always next summer.
- LeftCoaster



But then it counts against the cap .
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Mar 18 @ 7:25 PM ET
But then it counts against the cap .
- VANTEL


I could be wrong but I think there's a two year window. It was just accelerated this season because of Gomez and Redden. Anywho, I dont think Gillis would buy out Booth, he'd trade him.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Mar 18 @ 7:27 PM ET
Ya I can't see them trading Bjugstad. He's their future second center but someone equal to his value as of now.
- Boinker

Don't get me wrong, as over achieving a trade as that may appear, Vancouver would look pretty damn good with a pony like Bjugstad in their stable.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 18 @ 7:38 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, as over achieving a trade as that may appear, Vancouver would look pretty damn good with a pony like Bjugstad in their stable.
- MnGump


The only thing that comes from Florida stables are donkeys.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 18 @ 7:41 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think there's a two year window. It was just accelerated this season because of Gomez and Redden. Anywho, I dont think Gillis would buy out Booth, he'd trade him.
- Boinker

This is all correct. I'd do Booth and Ballard for Babchuck and Stajan
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
The only thing that comes from Florida stables are donkeys.
- Scooby_Doo


Come on, Lukas Krajicek was an absolute beast on the back end in 06/07
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 18 @ 7:46 PM ET
Stajan is a center which you need, he would rank 3rd on the Canucks in points and 2nd in plus minus. This all playing on all 4 lines. Booth has one goal empty net and is gonna be bought out. Stajan>booth this why you would be giving up a prospect. Maybe not Jensen but that's why I threw in the pick. if we threw in iggy instead you would have to add a lot more then booth Jensen
- Redmile247


You are crazy. Stajan is softer than butter, and nowhere close to worth his contract.

Even in spite of the Canucks need for a C, I would not trade Booth for Stajan straight up, and there's only one player on the Flames I would be willing to trade Jensen for.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 18 @ 7:47 PM ET
This is all correct. I'd do Booth and Ballard for Babchuck and Stajan
- Bieksa#3


Seriously?

You would want Matt Stajan and his 3.5m cap hit on the books for the remainder of this year and all of next year? Andrew Ebbett has been much more productive for 600k.
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